July 2010 - Next thread, cba to think of a title

[Chulita]

I want to witter away to you lot and none of you have come up with the goods so this will have to do...

Oh vik that's not a good night :( I had started giving him a bottle when he woke but yeah have stopped now. He hasn't had one this week I don't think. Definitely not the last three nights anyway. He cried out once and I thought 'oh here we go' but he was quiet after that. DS1 however was shouting out at 2am ish - I went in to ask what was wrong and he kept saying 'he took my cake off me, I want my cake back' Strange boy. He's been saying it this morning since we got up too. He took himself to the toilet at 6:50am so I had to get up to help him off the toilet. DS2 was already awake then anyway, so I took DS1 back in his room and told him he had to wait in his room until 'the sun' came up and then we all came down.

kk that's so sweet her saying bye bye mammy :)

I'm out tonight too. I wasn't looking forward to it but we changed location as my friend forgot the fair was on where we were going to go so were just heading into Middlesbrough for a meal and drinks instead. Much more appealing!

we knew what you meant chul

chul hope your DH had a good night, shame you couldnt go.
kk when its bedtime we ask L if is it bedtime? he waves at the dog and kisses him then says ba mam (hasnt quite got bye) then stands at the stair gate blowing kisses, tis very sweet!
Felt very sorry for myself last night and sent DH to tesco to buy cream cakes he didnt know what I wanted so got 2 packs,I ate 2 meringues filled with cream and a custard finger! Got a party today so as there are otehr kids there hoping L will eat more as other kids are eating, then dh and I are going to watch Contagion at the cinema.
Last night we decided we werent going to give L a bottle in the night, he actually screamed for over an hour, we kept going in and lying him down with his dummy, he would settle then start screaming and banging his cot again, I ended up crying, I hate him crying when I know a bottle will work but im hoping he will eat his breakfast today, yesterday for lunch I gave L an omlettee he had one mouth then spat it out, then for te he had veg, gammon and mash eating nothing of it, he wont even eat fruit pots or yoghurts, im wondering if its because he knows if he doesnt he will get a milk, well thats it he is only having one small bottle in the day now!

Well I'm not getting out the balloons and streamers yet but the night was a bit better. He woke at 10, 12:30, 1 something and 4:30 when I accidentally fell asleep on the floor next to him! That might not sound like a good night to some but each time he woke up he went to sleep fairly quick, no 2 hour awake periods which is soo much better.

I go into him everytime now because tbh dh just can't do it. D doesn't settle and that's when we get these long awake periods because dh has actually woken him up more.

Yes you're probably right memph, he knows he can hold out for milk so he doesn't need to eat. It's a really hard balancing act isn't it, I feel for you. But fwiw I think you're doing the right thing. Different I know because he's older but E asks for milk all day long and I have to be really strict with him because he rarely drinks water now, just milk, so if he has too much he fills himself up and refuses meals. Given a choice he would live on milk fruit and cheese and never have another meal in his life.

Do you eat together? Does he watch you eat? I only ask because both boys eat together and I can often get one to eat by praising the other Also, my not-fussed-about-food toddler had three portions of veg bolognaise at nursery yesterday. He always eats everything when he's there, because they all sit at the table together and it encourages him to eat.

X post. Great dh - did you feed him at any point or did he just go back off easily himself? Keep going you're doing well!

Yes, J eats really well at nursery - seeing others doing it definitely helps. He's not a bad eater at home (apart from this week while he's been ill) but the quantities have gone down recently. They need less food now than they did a few months ago - they're not growing so quickly.

Stac, lovely to hear from you - sorry you've been surrounded by illness. Hope the inhaler helps.

You're all going to hate me... J has now been asleep for just over 14 hours straight... he went to sleep at just after 7 last night. I can hear him breathing through the door. in fact as i typed that he woke up. i think he was just shattered after nursery yesterday and he's still recovering from the cold.

woodlands thats amazing sleep!
mlic We were eating together some of the time and this week we have started to for every meal, which is good for me as I never ever eat fruit and breakfast so dh is pleased as he knows im eating, I share a banana with L we had exactly the same today cheerios and half a banana he actuall ate some, I was thinking of getting him some of the curved cutlery so he can get it in his nmouth easier as so much falls off but havent seen any since i thought about it! Your right about eating at nursery, at mums and tots he eats more than ever as they are all around a table together, he used to eat so well when I fed him but he wont be fed anymore!

phew - just reread back but sorry if i miss anything.

have finally got an hour to myself as lovely dh has taken the blighters out for their sat morning breakfast routine and jaunt round the town.

thank you all tons for your replies to my whinging. it really helped get it in perspective. and kk i think you're right, lack of sleep was making me see it all worse.

A's slept a bit better for 2 nights - still woken up screaming and would only settle with a bf but then slept til gone 7am so i'm feeling more human again.

two friends really complimented F's personality yday which reassured me that he wasn't just driving everyone potty with his craziness. one of them described him as a lovely, really fun, life and soul of the party little person who's really into music (he is!) and that if he didn't have that to balance out his other side then he'd be really serious and academic. that made me remember all his loveliness

i have been extra affectionate to him the last two days (not that i'm not usually but i have been trying to give him extra kisses, cuddles and praise even when i'm busy and knackered) and also trying to make everyday stuff that he wasn't interested in - like putting on shoes himself - more interesting/a challenge and he's responding much better. it feels like he and i are getting back to being much closer again.

chul your postman comments really made me chuckle i don;t know how you're managing those fuck-awful early starts . hope you get some sleep this weekend.

really hope things pick up your end vik. you're doing great!

memph and kk like the others have said - it's nothing you're doing wrong, some toddlers just aren;t that bothered about food. F was v similar. strangely it often seems to be ones that are developing apace in other ways like talking. if they're developing well and have access to food then just chill - somehow they're getting enough, hard tho it is to believe. F now eats really well but still v slowly as he's distracted by everything.

food-wise in this house:

breakfast: usually toast/crumpets/croissants/muffins + humous or cream cheese for A and peanut butter for F plus a banana between them. fruit juice plus water.

lunch: usually home-made soup with croutons or bread or noodles/rice/pasta mixed with vegetables and beans/tofu/'cheese' and some kind of sauce
then home-made cake/fig rolls/organix fruit bar

snack: fig roll, raisins, organix crisps, fruit bar

dinner: stirfry, rice + spring roll or veggie sausages/pie, mash + veg or pasta or curry + rice etc. anything really!
then home-made cake/ice-cream/soya desserts, sometimes more banana

what standby do you all swear by? for me it's fig roll biscuits (actually pretty nutritious and children love them) and bananas.

kk that's amazingly cute re E's talking!

re talking: A is as noisy as hell but just not repeating many words. her regular vocab is: mama, dada, look, cat (the last two said together usually!), ta (not popular of late), rella (her own name), head, banana. there maybe a few others which go in and out of vogue but that's the main ones.

tbh, i think she just doesn't see a need to deign to speak as we all run round to satisfy her every whim anyway. she's already dangerously manipulative

right - better go and sort myself out. what are you all doing today? mooching around today and then a proper party at my step-mothers tonight (have babysitter) - yeehaaa!

bloody nora - mega post that!

and forgot to say:

dh you're doing great! i need to take a leaf out of your book soon (and never thought i'd say that )

great to hear from you stac altho sounds like things have been tough there.

i know i'm like a broken record on this but it's really worth thinking about trying to exclude dairy and see if that helps. my friend and her dd are both completely 'cured' from serious asthma since giving up dairy - after witnessing that i find it hard not to tell the world about it!

trudy it sounds as tho you're feeling a bit calmer. i can't wait to see pics of you sitting serenely with your new family of four. i think we're similarly worry-prone and i def found it all much easier in the doing than in the thinking iyswim? i could never imagine how life would work with a baby bf and a toddler rampaging etc but somehow it does. altho i had a bit of a wobble this week, generally i LOVE life with 2 small DCs and can't quite believe how enjoyable it all is. i look back on all my pg worries and wish i'd had a crystal ball so i could see then how great it would be.

watching my two run round with their towels (F's blue and A's pink) all excited about having their shower with dh - my heart was bursting with love for them all.

it won't be long and that's where you'll be

Thanks mlisc I fed him at about 5:45 but all other times I was just doing the stroke and ssh :)

Lol cake I am the font of all knowledge do you bf A to sleep?

no, i don't bf her to sleep dh but since this awful teething spate i've been bf to calm her down enough to go back to sleep. otherwise she'd be living on medinol.

I just bought a babyliss big hair after reading rave reviews online and it's bloody fantastic. Bearing in mind I have fine, fly-away hair, it's currently looking under control and rather well-groomed love it!

cake stand-by is fruity loaf/teacakes, they both love them!

I've read, sorry not to acknowledge you all, my head's pounding and my eyes are drying out looking at this screen.

S has had less than an hour's sleep all day, we're off to the park to stretch L's legs and run off some steam. He won't whinge if we're out!

Well to be a bit more honest, hair and makeup is done but I'm in bed inbetween two boys who have just come out of the bath, wearing a dress I got for a fancy dress party when I was 8 months pregnant that has now become my slob-in-the-house dress, and a pair of fluffy house socks So 'done up to the nines' I ain't!

Hope everyone has good nights. Laters :)

Have a good time mlisc

woodlands you're right I do hate you only joking that is a v impressive sleep.

D was v tired and he's teething, fingers always in the mouth and teething rash on one cheek. He went to sleep within 15 mins tonight.

We had a good day, went into town and had lunch with our friends, then sat in the park and chatted whilst the kids slept then came home when we started turning numb from the cold and drank tea while the dcs played, twas nice :)

Have fun out mlic

chulita I was thinking of wanting that Babyliss Big hair thing for Xmas. Though I have extremely thick hair. Wonder if it will work for me, too. Hope you're feeling better soon.

stac Good to have you back. Keep posting, even if you just come on for a moan. We're here for you, you know.

kk I'm so impressed by E's words. She sounds very advanced. Well done E.

cake I'm really pleased that A slept a bit better and that your are not so worried about F anymore. To repeat what my DP tells me whenever I overworry (so most days then [hblush] ) it really does all seem worse when you're sleep deprived. So always remember that and try and not fall into a downward spiral, but stop, ask yourself whether you've had enough sleep and if not, then try not to think about the particular problem until you're better rested.

viks I've just been reading this thread and thought you might be interested. Someone is asking particularly for positive stories of 2 under 2. None of this honest opinion rubbish, but just rose tinted glasses stuff [hwink]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/a1326291-Please-tell-me-that-two-under-two-is-okay

I really hope I'm not jinxing it but we had the best day ever with M. She wasn't screamy (much) and so lovely and funny and cute. I could eat her on a butty. Makes such a difference to my evening panic mood.

Have a good eve all.

i've got a bbh too chul - works well for me too

haven't got anything to wear to the party :( no, really. i've got rid of so many clothes and haven't got round to buying more going out stuff yet.

hope you all have a great night

morning all. why don't you all waffle when i actually have some time to reply

what was c doing tsc?

how's your head mlic?

sounds like you had a lovely day trudy, hopefully those will become the norm.

hope your postie is back and looking after you chul. i'm being dense but what would you call a fruit loaf?

we got back at a sedate midnight but A was up and wired and didn't go back to sleep til gone 2am. yawn.

our 'baby-sitter' stayed over so off downstairs to make everyone a veggie fry-up now.

before i go - very random survey which popped into my head this morning.

Transport Top Trumps
Powered transport you've taken your 14/15mo in since they were conceived (ie including when you were pg):

1 car
2 standard train
3 tube
4 ferry
5 plane
6 cable car
7 shuttle train thingy at airport
8 small/childrens' train down to a beach
9 venetian gondolier (my trump card)
10 new york subway

i now feel a pressing need to hail a rickshaw and then do the return journey via hover craft.

oh and nice one on the half stone tsc.hope you have a good trough at the italian and don't put on an ounce

Head's fine thanks. Only had two glasses of wine with my meal and then three vodka and cokes.

Erm
1 car
2 miniature railway
3 park and ride bus (preg)

W don't get out much

We don't get out much...

Dylans been in a car and on a bus, that's it!

He still woke up quite alot last night, went back to sleep quite quick each time and I fed him once at 6am.

We're seeing dh's mum this morning then his dad and stepmum this afternoon.