July 2010 - Next thread, cba to think of a title

[Chulita]

I want to witter away to you lot and none of you have come up with the goods so this will have to do...

Before I acknowledge either of you I have to shout this from the rooftops:
I MOVED S WHILST ASLEEP FROM THE BUGGY TO HIS BED, DE-JACKETING HIM AND PUTTING HIM IN A GROBAG AND HE'S STILL ASLEEP!!!!!! (that was over an hour ago)
It's worth shouting because I have never, ever, ever managed to move either of my children asleep without them waking up and deciding it's not worth sleeping. What a lovely feeling :)

S is in a short sleeved vest, big boy's pjs, 2.5 grobag and we have an electric radiator on in his room, it was 18 degrees with it on, 16 without. I'm going to look for some warmer pjs for him I think, the thin cotton ones are rubbish in the mornings and he'll never keep a dressing gown on!

mlisc I hope it's not too bad an afternoon, S did the same yesterday but he was lovely despite being very tired!

ds1 shouted me at 4.40 this morning. I don't know why/what he wanted but his room was freeeeeeezing. He has a single duvet, don't know what tog but it seems thin. I put a blanket on the bed but I think I'm going to give him a higher tog duvet. Babyboy sleeps in long sleeved pyjamas and a sleeping bag and seems fine. Our windows are double glazed but the sealing has gone on nearly all of them so they let out lots of heat/let in lots of draught and cause a lot of condensation problems. I need to get some quotes to get them replaced.

Not sure if that helps, but that's what it's like in my house!

I hasten to add I have no idea what tog the sleeping bag is. I've borrowed if from a friend. I assume a 2.5 though.

Oh and well done chulita, yes it is a nice feeling :)

I was informed (perhaps erroneously) that children under the age of 6(ish) shouldn't be under a higher tog than 4.5 because they are more likely to overheat in bed and not react properly. Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but L has a 4.5 duvet, winter pjs and when it gets really cold I put a blanket on too. We did have a radiator in her room but she plays with it so it ends up roasting hot!

Probably panicking about nothing, just when someone in a 'uniform' tells me something I always think I should believe it

Aha, according to JL (who can do no wrong in my eyes) it's fine to put them in anything between 4.5 and 9.

"When choosing a full-sized duvet for a child, unless their bedroom is very cold, it's best to stick with a lighter weight duvet between 4.5 and 9 tog. As children are smaller it means that their duvet traps more air and increases the level of warmth over and above that experienced by most adults. A heavier 13.5 tog duvet may well prove uncomfortable, and is not recommended"

Just shows I should read a bit more before believing what I'm told!

Good work chu, hope he stays asleep for a while!
tsc I was just about to ask that question, when i got D up this morning his legs and feet were really cold and he was moaning for ages in the night but i didnt think it was cold but maybe it was. He has a long sleeved body suite, no legs, and a sleeping bag, thats all. I feel guilty now. D wouldnt stay under a duvet or a sheet he flings himself around far too much. Does anyone use a pillow and if so is it at the top of the cot?
mylife thats a bit different from yesterday isnt it! Hope he can last till bedtime.
dh its hard when they have a tantrum, i constantly feel pressure to keep dh and D happy. However i think its done dh the world of good the last few days with me out of action.
im feeling much better thank you chu just really weak and tired and like my glands are up a bit.

Haha! How diligent of you to do the research for me though
I have no idea what his duvet is but it's really thin. I sort of wonder about all the people who put their kids in bed with them though - surely they'll all be sleeping with higher tog duvets? Plus the body heat of their parents I think I'll just stick the normal double duvet on the bed and see how it is for him.

His room was 17 according to the grow egg, he was almost definatly cold wasnt he

M sleeps in a long sleeved vest (no legs), cotton jimjams and a 2.5 sleeping bag. Her room is between 19 and 21 degrees.

Well done on moving a sleeping S, chuli and sorry about a no sleeping W mlic.
M only had a short lunch nap cos DHL woke her up [hangry]. At least this time the parcel was for us. Usually they ring to give us parcels for random neighbours because they cba to walk any higher in the building than to our floor. Then when the neighbours pick them up in the evening, they wake her again (her door is right next to the entrance door and bell). And THEN they usually don't even say thank you. But I won't start on that now [hangry] you'll be pleased to hear.

M has discovered a liking for raw peppers [hshock]. She used to hate them. Very adventurous these days my little girl.

Feeling less panicky today. DP made me go to bed early last night (I hate that and always try and stay up as late as possible, thinking that sleep is totally overrated) and then "made me" have a lie in as well. I have to say there might be something in his theory that I panic more, the less sleep I have had [hhmm]

I actually feel almost ready for labour and I feel ready to have two children. That's big progress. Still not keen on giving birth at night though.

Have a good afternoon all.

Well they say approx 16-20 for new babies don't they so it can't be that cold. I've never had a room thermometer for the boys as I just think, if I'm cold, they must be. Like, when I went into ds1's room early hours of this morning I have no idea what the temp was but I felt cold so I put a blanket on him.

vik 17 at night would be a warm temperature in our house!

Houses here don't have central heating so get pretty chilly in winter, I am just taking the layers off as it warms up here. In the coldest months I put G in vest, pyjamas, sleeping bag and sometimes blanket over top of sleeping bag. I also have a little electric heater in her room that I would leave on low overnight, otherwise the temperature in there would drop to about 10 or something on the coldest nights.

A doesn't have heater on overnight in her room but had it on in evenings for an hour or so (on the coldest nights). She wears fleecy pyjamas and I put two duvets on her bed - seems to work great at keeping her warm overnight. We do the same on our bed in July and August. I don't know what tog her duvets are and I've never thought about having too high a tog on her - they are quite thin ones though and I think the two layers seems to work for her.

It's just got warm enough to go back to one duvet and to leave the heater off in both rooms all the time, which is helping our leccy bill

Not long to go Trudyla, how exciting!

Due to our conversations re bed clothes i have just put D down in a short sleeved body, pj's, socks and a sleeping bag. He can't be cold in all that surley! Im gona put him back on his normal diet tomorrow i think, he has kept everything down since tuesdays cm sick so cant see that there is a problem although he did the strangest ball of solid very light poo earlier that stank to high heaven anyone had that before??

Funny the convo should turn to what babies are wearing in bed because I was panicking that D was getting too cold in the night. He's in a bodysuit and sleepsuit with a 2.5 tog sleeping bag. However his room is around 17c but his mattress is on the floor right in the firing line of the draught coming through his door but it's either that or under the window so I've now put a thick throw on top of the mattress to try to keep him cosy.

He had quite a good nap at my sisters house earlier, even sleeping through a drill in the room below!

Quick ques, sorry I keep banging on about his sleep but I really do want to get it sorted now. Am I making it worse by bringing him in our bed at 5ish for a couple more hours sleep or is this undoing all my hard work throughout the night? I feed him when I bring him into our bed but this is the only time he gets bf now.

I would say you were confusing him a bit tbh, imo he should either be in his bed or in yours but doing both might be throwing him off. You could still bf him if you feel he needs it but maybe in his room and then put him back down. He will fight it though! :)

My last hope for a babysitter for tomorrow night is busy so DH will have to go to this do on his own. I'm gutted though cos I really wanted to go!

Sadly that's what I thought too. I dont think he necessarily needs the milk although he still won't drink cows milk so he's not getting any at all. I'll try and keep him in his bed all night then, I'm so tired I just wish he'd get it on his own!

I agree with chulita you'll be surprised to hear He won't understand why sometimes you make him go back down on his own and others you take him into your bed, sometimes you feed him and sometimes you don't.

Toddlers of 15 months don't need night feeds so long as they are getting enough food in the day. I do agree that sometimes they want the comfort of a feed, whether that be breast or bottle, but it isn't because they need the milk, it's because they need to be soothed, ie when teething or ill.

I got into a bit of a rut of giving ds2 a bottle when he was up in the night just because I was soooo tired and wanted the quick fix so I could go back to sleep. All I did though in hindsight was provide a rod for my own back. The last two nights I have gone and picked him up but not left his room, cuddled him until he settled down and put him back to bed. Last night he started to kick off as I went to lay him back down but I told him to settle down, time to go back to sleep. I asked him to give me a kiss (as I do at bedtime, to replicate the routine) and then put him to bed and said night night and he went back to sleep!

Watch it all go horribly wrong tonight now I've said that...

Trudy, chulita put some photos on fb today to show you some positives. Just thought I'd mention as I know you rarely go on there :)

have been having a crap evening. only just got them down and got something to eat. supposed to be working but have had no t'internet til now. will try to post later if i have energy. have read your posts.

Thanks mlic Just checked it out.

And thanks chulita. My, they are cute.

Well, it's evening and I'm not crying. Progress ladies, I'm telling you!

Had a long speech from DP about how it will all fall into place and it's gonna be great. The poor bloke must be sick of me freaking out. But anyway, it helped.

dh I agree with the others. Maybe try feeding him in his room tonight. If you feel you can't leave him, maybe stay with him at 5 but don't take him into your bed. Then gradually remove yourself further and further as the days/nights go by. Good luck!

You have to go back on now trudy and look at my beautiful babies too

Done [hgrin]. I love their rosy cheeks.

Can't wait to post a photo of my two. Wow, now that feels weird to write [hshock]

Soon, I'm gonna be a mother of two.

Still not in labour btw. Just realised that may have sounded like I was.

We can't wait for you to post a pic of your two either! And same for vik and chulita.

Now, who will be up-duffed next d'ya reckin?

dh

Ok thanks ladies I will try that. Dh is in there now with him so I can go to bed. Report back in the morning!