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ssmile · 29/08/2011 19:36

Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

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jimmijam · 17/09/2011 18:30

Think we already have the start of colic :-(

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ssmile · 17/09/2011 19:49

Oh jimmijam hugs our first we think with hindsight that she had colic we had hrs of crying in eve, its so upsetting &exhausting.
Tonight its her again (4yrs old) screaming hse down again as she can't sleep we already bought her bedtime forward 45mins tonight as she been such a handful lately struggling with new babe in the hse and her routine gone up in the air with school as well she is so tired, she has always been difficult at bed time. Hohum expect we will get her settled and babe will start as she seems to cry 9-11pm......gonna be long eve I think.

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jimmijam · 17/09/2011 22:06

I may b on here in the wee hours ssmile ds1 being ok, tho already got out of bed a few times, dd desperate 4 attention & also got out of bed quite a few times already, can tell shes in need of more cuddles & ds2 possible colic (infacol now in use) screams a nasty scream a lot after being quiet 4 his 1st week & has fed almost non stop all day. With dh @ work all the 1st 2 have seen 2day is me cuddling lo. Poor things. This is getting hard

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feralgirl · 17/09/2011 22:09

Thanks for the birth story 100years, it sounds like you had a really positive experience - very similar to how things went with DS for me a few years ago.

Jimmi, sorry to hear about the colic; DS was a bugger for it and howled all evening for months. It is such a trial and, as Ssmile said, just exhausting and horrible to know that they're uncomfortable.

DS (2.9) has also been having a bit of a rough time of it the last couple of weeks I think. He's started nursery as well as getting a new sister and his potty training has regressed to the point where you'd think we'd never started. His behaviour's a bit wayward too, more likely to have tantrums.

DH has mainly been responsible for him while I've got DD and he's not brilliant at dealing with DS when he's in a grump which is making it worse. DH is a bit quick to lose his rag with DS and doesn't really realise just how angry he sounds when DS is playing up. I hate listening to it; as a teacher I'm really used to not losing my rag with people when they don't do what I want them to. Thing is, I know it's going to be really hard when DH goes back to work on Thursday and I keep getting myself really worked up about it. Sad

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jimmijam · 18/09/2011 09:52

Ah no fera, but as long as ur mentally prepared 4 it being hard then hopefuly it wont b so bad wen the time comes. Hoping my dh gets his paternity leave at some point this week,.still waiting 2 hear 4 sure that his shifts r covered :-(
Kids got a party later so that shpuld b good 4 them, tho its @ the same time & place as last weeks party where i dropped dd off but someone else picked her up cuz i was in labour in hospital, hopefuly she'll feel confident i'll b home wen partys over.
Well ds2 actually slept well last night :-) woohoo, even thru the ridiculous amount of heavy rain we had!

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ssmile · 18/09/2011 12:04

Having my first "im fed up with this day" :( shouldn't really as babe slept well after feeding virtually hourly all day yest she went 11.30pm to 7am with one long feed 2.30-3.30am. But DD1 now has a cold and I paranoid the rest of us inc babe will get it and I barely have enough energy to function now let alone if cold strikes just when DH goes back to work. Also pissed of with DH work he on paternity leave the unpaid bit and they phone him up and email him some work to do, which he spent all sat morn doing and 3hrs this morn whilst I jiggle both girls, do housework and cook breakfast for all then as I sit down babe starts crying..... so I just marched upto shop and back with pushchair left DH& DD1 at home to get 10 mins head space and its raining..... ok rant over. I know its only wk3 and it will get better....

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ssmile · 18/09/2011 12:06

What I didnt say was I trying to make roast chicken dinner did had got spuds in oven between crying &feeding babe session then realised we had no chicken hence march up the shops....doh!

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jimmijam · 18/09/2011 13:12

Sorry 2 hear that ssmile my dh got given work 2 do (unpaid) while on hol last week, very unlike him but im also glad-he didnt do it :+) urs shouldnt have either
, hope u told him off!!
Tho u know babies cry, its uber stressful wen they do-esp wen it doesnt stop!! Ru bfeeding or bottle? Glad u got a good nights sleep :-). Lo only 1 week old yet im strongly considering using a dummy, ds1 &dd had them but they do look ugly, esp in photos & we only got rid of them-&kept it that way when they were about 3,5 & 4,5, tho as would only have 1 lo with a dummy could hopefuly get rid of it sooner. Oh the big dummy debate

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ssmile · 18/09/2011 13:56

I'm BF ing babe Except vsmall bit formula 10mls about 10pm if I'm asleep and DH has her so I can get 1hr in before night begins. Our DD1was a crier we didnt know any different until my sis &brother had babies who didn't cry for hrs like ours did! We didn't do dummy but she had a snugglely toy which she chewed the arms of at night endlessly and still cuddles him now as a comfiter. My sis used a dummy with her DS as he fed, chewed her nipples endlessly she never liked it but it gave her a rest. I think you got to do what suits u &babe.

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100years · 18/09/2011 18:19

LO is very placid in the day, sleeps well after about 11 or midnight but in the evening for a few hours she turns into a feed me monster, almost cluster feeding and I think she is a bit windy too. She does settled for a time. But seems to feed loads more in the eve than at any other time and doesn't settle half as well. She had daddy time last night for an hour so I could have a snooze to last me till she slept properly at 11:30 but then had a 90 min sleep, a 3hr 30 sleep and another couple of 90 min sleeps. Odd. She was always awake in the evening in my tum, might just be the way she is. Might be a wind problem. We're working on how to ease it for her when she's like it.

Mw thinks her gums are full of teeth. They do look like there is the outline of teeth there but she's not looking like it's a problem at the moment !

Gone onto real nappies now! Wow. Good luck us. First one full of poo and then more poo during the changing! All over it. Fun fun fun Grin

My episiotomy wound feels loads better, will get the verdict tomorrow from the mw, no longer think that OH will never go near that area again! Lol. So that's got to be an improvement. Also fever has gone and boob soreness went after a good massage :)

Hope your all doing ok now. On phone so it's tricky.

Totally un mn hugs for ssmile for the fed up day and feral for DH going back to work and jimmi for possible colic. And anyone else I've missed.

I must admit I'm wondering about colic and will ask mw. But will see how this evening is too.

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BumpyHeffalumpy · 18/09/2011 18:50

Hello,

Read up to page 3 and am really tired, so just a quick hello. Sorry been MIA for a while, huge drama with parents about them coming to visit from Oz and now have crying baby who won't settle. Welcome to everyone and congratulations on your babies.

xoxo

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jimmijam · 18/09/2011 19:01

100 we gave infacol last night but he was fine 2day so i didnt use it.
Lo poohs during/soon after most feeds- would b so much easier if he did it b4 hand ;-)
The dummy debate with myself continues, i would have shoved 1 in his mouth earlier if they'd been steralised, have resisted since he's so cute without 1!! Tho i think it would b better 4 dd & ds1 if he did have 1...
100 glad ur cut is feeling much better! Is it wrong that im already looking 4ward 2 dtd?
Tmi---- i cant wait 2 b able 2 sit on the loo & not get a load of stringy gooey blood come out of me, hate 2 think how much xtra loo roll iv gone thru. With dd lochia stopped after 7weeks, with ds1 it was 4-5weeks so hoping it will finish a bit sooner this time.
Im not confident bf infront of others, we have ppl coming 2 visit over wkend, tho they wont b staying with us i imagine theyl spend quite a bit of time here, so am thinking of expressing a few bottles 4 wen theyre here. Ds1 &dd took from bottle & breast but i cant remember wen from. Do u think 2 weeks old will b 2 soon?

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feralgirl · 18/09/2011 20:34

Jimmi, I think the advice re introducing bottles (or dummies) is to wait until 6 weeks but I doubt it'll hurt so long as you're still BFing most of the feeds and I have read things written by people who mix feed who said that nipple confusion was never a problem for them. The night feeds are the most important while you're still establishing BFing as that's when your body produces the most prolactin so I expect you'll be fine.

100years, I never realised with DS that the insane feeding frenzy in the evenings was normal and it used to really wind me up that I never got to eat a hot meal! He used to get colicky as well but having a bath tended to help him a bit. DD does do evening cluster feeds but she's nowhere near as bad as DS was. I guess it's the pay off for having them sleep slightly longer periods at night (although DS didn't do that much either!)

I'm having a crappy weepy day today; I attempted to get DS ready for bed while also looking after DD and it all went a bit pear-shaped and then DH didn't really 'get it' when I tried to explain to him how stressful it is listening to your baby cry while also dealing with your toddler Sad

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feralgirl · 18/09/2011 20:38

And Sad to hear about your horrid day ssmile but - and I'm really sorry - I did Smile when I read about you cooking roast chicken and then realising you didn't have a chicken!

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Minkyjj · 19/09/2011 01:59

Hello ladies. Haven't been on for a while and couldn't connect to the new thread set up for the ladies still to deliver. Congrats to all the new babies and mummies I have missed in the last few days. We are doing well. LO feeding well and milk came in 2.5 days after csection. The wind issue is now kicking in with him and midwife is suggesting infacol although I don't think it's working (dd&ds1 both had reflux and colic so just waiting for that to hit).
On the dummy debate - both my dcs had a dummy early on. Both were bf and all I can say is that it really helped with the colic phase and also babies that needed to comfort suck. I got rid of dummies at 6 months - few nights of crying/no sleep but by then we were more able to handle it and that way never had later problem of dummy addiction. I also gave dcs a bottle after a couple of weeks so that I had the option and it was fine and didn't upset the bf. the midwives on the ward were very supportive when I went in this time as is home midwife - think they realise that when youre onto number 3 you have tried many things and go with what works for you. To all first time mummies my only advice really is that nobody has all the answers, you know your baby and your situation better than anyone and if there was a real right or wrong then the advice midwives and health visitors give would not change year by year. In the nine years since dd was born the advice has changed so much that if I tried to raise dc3 the way I did with dc1 I would be considered a bad parent !
On the tmi front - I am day 5 post csection and the pain involved in going for a poo is excruciating feeling like my internal stitches are about to burst. Hope the other Csectioners (sounds like a prison term) are fairing better on that front ! Prunes and lactulose for me tomorrow me thinks Wink

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jimmijam · 19/09/2011 07:34

minky thanku, comforting adbice :+)
Wen i had a cs i found holding 1 hand over cs scar wen going 4 a poo helped. I also went the 1st 7days without doing 1,.then the 1st few were huge and solid & painful (&wouldnt flush) even with lactulose & high fibre diet. After a while i stopped taking lactulose & from then was fine, strangely!
@ least with ds1&2 i then knew 2 make more effort & not b scared of going (tho they were both vbac)!

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100years · 19/09/2011 15:02

Un MN Hugs for bumpy, hope you manage to get LO settled and sorted.

Jimmi, yeah I know what you mean about poking before a feed, get them all fed and comfy then have to change them and disturb the niceness of a full baby! No it's not wrong that you are looking forward to DTD, I am too. Yeah loo roll is always a subject of 'how much are you using' and since birth I've obviously used far more than I usually do, but it's getting less now. I personally have no bother getting my breasts out, I used to, but even though they are bloody massive I'm fine with it - so far, it's only been family here and MWs, but have a friend over tomorrow and will feed in the front room then.

feral, I spoke to the MW about the feeding frenzy today, she said was it between 7 and midnight, which it is, it's all to do with the milk being slightly nicer and better at that time and they love it so much, it's very common. I've taken to having my food by me at that point, and having it cut up by OH if it's something that requires cutting and just eating one handed.

Minky, thanks for the info re dummies, I am not sure if we will need one, but it's nice to know from someone that it didn't affect BF.

MW checked my episiotomy cut and it is still gaping, but she says it's only skin and not muscle and so is quite happy with ti, but won't discharge us yet, will come and observe it next monday and see how it is then before discharging us. But it feels soooo much better now.

LO has gone from 6lb9 to 7lb2 on day 10 :) So I am really happy with that, good weight gain and feeding very well! Slept well through the night, she was asleep for 3 1/2 hrs at one point last night.

Been out for a trip today, went to the shops Shock I actually managed to drive too, which was nice.

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sebs71 · 19/09/2011 18:07

Finally just drawing up a chair to get ready to join you all but on phone and breast feeding Alys so wil aim to post later and read and catch up with you all.

Very happy to be here!!!

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ssmile · 19/09/2011 22:18

Welcome &congrats sebs71 hope BF goes well &u get some rest.

100yrs hope that epistom heals ok sounds bit worrying. Glad Lo gaining weight well.

minkyj hope your post sec discomfort eases. I made some prune&dried apricot rock cakes which vnice but made me vwindy not helped by chili i had too but eased gut :o

jimmijam hope Lo settles without too much crying tonight.

Sorry if missed u doing this one handed on phone babe in other arm winding. Babe had gday, so far... our stress is with our 4yr old whose sleep is badly deteriorating again. We've had 4.5yrs of these patches so trying all the tricks again she didn't settle till 10pm last night, then was up 2-6am, then up 7am ready for school. Lucky for me our DH is off till thurs so is looking after her, no idea how we cope if we can't get her out of this cycle again for when he goes back to work and I have to help with her too overnight :( it also meant I lost my back up today as he was more tired than me and the idea of paternity leave was he got time with babe and helped me rest. Today I 'gave' him the 2hr arvo nap slot as he needed it more poor sod. Fingers crossed for better night tonight for all us mummies and daddies x

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lolajane2009 · 20/09/2011 16:53

Edward went under 5lb last week and went back in hospital for Wednesday night for tests with mummy. He is now being dual feeded and with breastfeeding plus 30 ml of sma per feed he got upto 5lb 6 1/2 yesterday (Day 17).

Wonder if he'll be 8lb by christmas.

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Minkyjj · 20/09/2011 21:32

Lolajane - what a worry but sounds like it's getting sorted. You will be amazed how quick he will pile on the pounds once he gets going. My dc1 was under weight and dropped to 5.5lbs but now we have to watch what she eats - good luck.
I have had a lovely day of visitors but tonight I am in so much discomfort - sure it's things knitting back but boy does it hurt !
Baby who is breastfed had also gone from bright yellow poo to dark green/black poo - bit of a worry.

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summerpixie · 21/09/2011 03:08

Hi, welcome and congrats to all the new mummies and babies.
Past week has been tiring with expressing milk and insomnia after waking at 3am to feed DD and pump. So having had a bit of a despair cry today due to lack of milk supply I ordered an ameda pump from amazon paying more for next day del. Went off and had a nap after that whilst DH took DS swimming. DD woke up from nap only to latch on and have a good 45min feed! I will keep the pump anyway as I'll be going back to work in may and want to build up a freezer store for my mum to have when she takes over care of my DD.
DH returns to work in the morning and I have my first school run. I'm slightly worried about it as DS spends an hour eating breakfast! And I'll have to feed DD before we leave too and the school is quite a distance away. As DH has to leave at 530 am he is sleeping in DS bed whilst I am in bed with the 2 kids which is nice as I have more room Grin. I fell asleep feeding DD earlier and she fed for an hour but my boobs still hurt a bit so I am expressing at the moment and catching up on here.
I hope your DD1 has been a bit easier ssmile. Is she FT at reception yet? DS went ft from day one and has been really cranky before and after school but I think that is partially him playing up to DH who has been demonstrating preferential treatment towards his little princess!
Hope you sort out your parents visit from
Oz bumpy. My parents are planning their trip to HK and have told me they intend to go in October. There I was thinking I would have my emotional crutch/homehelp until November!
Hope those underweight babies get big soon. My DD managed to put on 100g in 3days after I introduced one 3oz formula feed a day so there is light at the end of what seems a long tunnel.
Anyway I'd better finish this pumping and get some sleep in before the school manic.

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ssmile · 21/09/2011 07:24

Gd luck summerpixie with solo school run today. My first solo run is tom as DH goes back to work proper until Oct half term when he has wks hols booked. My DD has a 3wk intro to school! Half parents have complained I don't think it benefits the kids as much as it does the school! My DD wants to know why she can't stay for lunch as she desparate to use her princess lunch box :o but alas its not till next wk she gets to stay to 1.30pm and I get bit more rest with out her :)
Babe did better last night sleeping 9-12, disturbed till 4, then slept till 6.45am so I consider that "good" night :o as I got 6hrs sleep in bits. It's a joke in my head as every morning my DH asks "did u have gd night?" If he had 6hrs sleep broken by 3-4hrs in the middle I very much doubt it would be "good" and he be bear with sore head all day :)

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feralgirl · 21/09/2011 13:59

ssmile, I am Grin at yours and your DH's definitions of a 'good night'; to me, I am getting amazing sleep as DD is going from 11pm - 3am (big 1 hour feed) - 7am but I'm sure that if DH had to be awake for an hour in the middle of the night being pooed and puked on then he'd be evil in the morning. However, I know that I am incredibly lucky to be getting this much sleep when DD is only 2 weeks old. Hell, if she sleeps this well when she's a year old then I'll be happy!

DH is dealing with DS at night atm though and will continue to do so when he goes back to work. He only works PT so I don't feel too guilty!

100years, that's really interesting about milk tasting better in the evening. I wonder whether it's because that's when all your milk producing hormones are working their hardest?

lolajane, fingers xed for weight gain, sounds as though your moving in the right direction though.

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MrsSawyer · 21/09/2011 14:04

Oliver was born on 12th sept at 12.37am, heres my birth story if you've got an hr or so to read it!

MW came to do a sweep on 1st Sept and it was unsuccessful but I was told I was 1-2cm dilated already and everything was favourable for a quick induction. Went into hospital on Friday 9th for induction, only to be monitored and then sent home as they didn?t have enough staff to look after me if they broke my waters! Was gutted.

Went back in on Sat 10th and after obs and monitoring, had the 24hr Propess pessery put in and told to bounce on the birthing ball to get things going, and was told the pessery would remain in me until 10.00am on Sunday 11th unless things started naturally. They didn?t. And every midwife, doctor, consultant that came in to examine me told me something different, I was 2-3cm dilated, then I was 1-2cm, then I was nearly 4cm, then I was barely 1cm, so frustrating.
I was told the "contractions" I was experiencing weren?t contractions, just propess pains from all the hormones, and then I was told I was contracting well and strong, such a mismatch of information!

I was about as hacked off as Id ever been by the time Sunday morning came, had the pessery in for 24 hrs, had to have it resited twice as it fell out! and being told mismatch information, only for them to come to me, remove it at 10am sun and then tell me that they will not put up the oxytocin drip or break my waters as they had staffing problems, when she examined me, she said she could push the baby?s head out of my pelvis and he wasn?t engaged at all, I was mortified and just sat on the floor and cried my head off for a good 30 minutes.
She returned at 2.30pm to break my waters and was just set up, when she was called into theatre for an emergency, so it was then another 90 minutes wait and at 4.00pm, finally returned and the doctor broke my waters, the relief was immense ? something was finally happening! My contractions started straight away and progressed really well, using gas and air until at approx (as things are hazy) 10.30-11.00pm when the anaesthetist was called to site my epidural as I couldn?t have diamorphine as baby was too sleepy, the epidural was sited (by the most gorgeous anaesthetist) and worked straight away and after about 10 minutes of pushing, Oliver was born at 12.37am on Monday 12th Sept, handed straight to me and we snuggled while daddy cut the cord.
The story does not end there. I was told that the head was out and ?one more push and your baby will be born? so I gave an almighty push, where actually the midwife meant a small push but failed spectacularly to share that information with me, and so I tore (from the front hole to the back hole), it was classed as a 3rd A Degree tear and was in theatre 9 minutes after Oliver was born to be stitched up.
My surgeon was fantastic and has done a wonderful job, I have no pain from stitches and everything is working well down there, we were released from hospital after 36 hours and am now at home with my DS1, DS2 and DH, who are all wonderful.
Well done if you got through all that.

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