september edd new babies arriving come share the ups and downs here

[ssmile]

Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

[CosmicCloud]

Thanks for all the welcomes everyone!
Minky your PJ day sounds fab - enjoy.
Sebs we have snow here today too. Not that much though and has melted a little. A fine dusting for Christmas day would be perfect! Hope your MIL's visit goes okay.
Candrcane I like a little snow. Just not so much that we're forced to stay at home due to driving conditions like the previous two years. Though this year there does seem to be more gritters etc about where I live so hopefully even if it does snow lots it won't have such an impact. Either way I have my new snow boots for this year and am hoping for a down filled coat from Santa! Sorry your LO is still suffering with colic. Hope it passes soon.
Obsidian your night out sounds lovely. I'm not giving LO a bottle following a spectacular vomiting episode when I did attempt EBM in a bottle, so can't really help but hope you get some suggestions.
Ssmile yay to 6 hour stretch in crib!
Almost all organised for Christmas here. Got last bits at shops this morning while DS1 at nursery. LO behaved beautifully and napped in pram the whole time. Just a bit of wrapping to do and last minute cake to make and that should be it.
Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Lo won't take a bottle here either so can't help but that sounds like a lot of formula your trying to get Lo to take? Extra formula doesn't necessary mean more sleep I'm afraid. So kids just find it harder than others to sleep and need less than others. (my DD1 vpoor sleeper we tried everything!) sometimes your better just excepting this what they do at this age but it will improve over time eventually

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Some kids not so - sorry on phone

[falalalalagirl]

Hi Obsidian, I'm a teacher too (secondary English) Just a thought re settling babies, have you tried white noise? It worked really well for my DS and is currently working for DD as well. We have a really creaky house so it keeps them both from waking up too. DD has a fancy swing with a white noise thing on it and that generally shuts her up settles her during the day. Other than that, like everyone else said, routine routine routine. I do exactly the same thing every single night (bath, boob, bed) and replicate it as closely as poss if we're elsewhere.

And wrt naps, if we're at home, DD will do a couple of 2-3 hour naps, one in the morning, one in the afternoon. She doesn't often get the opportunity though as she generally gets dragged out as DS is 3 and goes berserk if kept cooped up. For example today we were at my mum and dad's and I reckon she's had a total of about 1.5 hours, in three stages. She was shattered, poor baby! So far, it doesn't seem to make much difference to her if it changes tbh, although I know that's totally contrary to what all the 'experts' will tell you!

Mam bottles are the only ones that ever worked for DS but I've been pretty slack with DD and she's still not keen. I won't give formula until I go back to work and only then if I'm not able to express enough. Like Ssmile said, more milk doesn't = more sleep ime either! And I when I tried it with DS it actually made it worse and stopped him from settling properly; I reckon because (a) he was used to boob the rest of the time and (b) it made him windy and overfull.

Candr, I HATE snow! I can't stand being stuck indoors and I get really cabin-feverish if I can't get out. Although I do like getting the day off when school's closed!

Minky I am vvv of the PJ day; DH is working tomorrow so I have to look after both DCs and try and clean my cesspit of a house as we have people coming to stay on Sunday. And these are childless friends whose house is always immaculate!

Hello also to everyone else; haven't been on for a while so too much to reply to everyone but I have read it all.

DD also rolled over today from front to back. I think the first quarter roll was intentional and then the second bit not so much as she had this look She was on the sheepskin rug which helped as she was able to get fistfuls of wool to pull herself around.

[JoJoJoHoHoHo]

Evening and welcome back to the lovely new ladies

LO has been very unsettled tonight think its die to his jabs that he had so had to give him some Calpol and he is now fast asleep he has also been sick today (very unlike him and not just normal milk sick IYKWIM and also had very loose nappies) Hope he is feeling better soon hate seeing him ill :(

No advice on bottle feeding a breast fed baby as my LO has always had a bottle and is a right little fatty when it comes to milk time!

Anyone else finding that there LO is growing out of things in an alarming rate and I dont just mean clothes! I know my LO is a big boy (9lb 8oz at bith 14lb @ 8 weeks currently 10 weeks) but I really cant see him lasting that much longer in the car seat!

My lovely mother has offered to babysit tomorrow so im off out with the girls for a bit of shopping and a nice lunch and drinks as our own little christmas do!

[Santageekmum]

Oh, lots to catch up on and not much time...

I'll put my hand up to being another teacher... Secondary science! Went into school today for the Christmas 'snacks' but tbh was quite bored, couldn't really talk to many people as was holding DS and he was over tired so wouldn't settle.

Re. Bed bottle and breast: we feed breast at about 7:10, 60ml formula from a tommee tippee bottle, nappy, pyjamas, book then bed by 8:30. DH managed to get him to sleep without bouncing on the exercise ball tonight - just by stroking his head. But he was really tired! We only give the formula as part of his top up due to his weight issues, and have maintained the small amount in the hope that he gradually takes more from the breast. When giving the bottle, frequent burping helps.

Re. Snow: I usually love it as I usually get some friends over and we make snow sculptures. A kangaroo two years ago and last year a welsh dragon. But don't think I can do that this year with DS to look after!

I finished all my Christmas shopping, card writing and wrapping last week, but I do this in the full knowledge that my DH leaves buying for his family quite late and then stresses over wrapping them up, so I know I've got his still to do on his behalf! He admitted to me today that he still hasn't bought me my present!

Bit worried my DS will never get to roll over as he gets so upset when doing tummy time that I can't bear to leave him for long!

Think that's everything... Oh and migraines, I find sleep is the only thing to cure mine and only if I catch them early. Apparently I suffered from them when I was at primary school... My mum took me to the doctors about them. They were stress induced - I was apparently upset that my friends had packed lunches whilst I was stuck in the hall with school dinners! We changed to packed lunches and the migraines stopped!

Best wishes for the night...

[MinkyjjMincyPies]

Just very quick posting - re tummy time - mine always hated it - I have finally realised after 3 kids that some skills don't need practice, just time - I pushed my daughter to learn things too early before she was ready and not sure it made any difference - she learnt it when she was ready. Try and teach them something too soon and you make a rod for your own back. Saying that - if lo likes it and you think it's good keep going but you won't be harming their development by not doing tummy time etc.
Top up bottle at night - bottle milk amount of ml and breastfed milk ml can't be compared. Don't worry about ml amounts too much, just leads to stress and amount won't always equate to more or less sleep. I don't supplement bf because I thought this would help me with dcs1 and dd1 but have realised for me that it just leads to bf problems due to reduction in bf milk ( won't mean it happens for you guys but my milk supply is not overly plentiful at the best of times and any meddling causes problems). My lo only takes small ml amounts at a time and that's fine - whatever works for you - don't worry if your lo is taking less or more than others as long as he/she is happy and doing okay. All the friends I know who had babes with slow weight gain or freezing problems are completely fine - wobbly start for mum and dad and worry but things improve (easier said than done sometimes but please take some assurance from it). Well better get ready for bed shattered!

[Santageekmum]

Thanks Minky that does make me feel better about tummy time and slow weight gain!

DH earns brownie points today, allowed me to have a lie in!

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Do your babes have funny habit of at end of feed suddenly looking wide awake, eyes smiling then fall fast asleep 5sec later I'm learning not to interact with her then ...she just did it and I got her all settled asleep on my lap and postman knocked. They don't wait long ere as so busy so I'm trying to stuff boob back in, lift babe as carefully as I can unlock door and he already off down the path! Luckly caught him its parcel from my SIS in OZ for the girls
My Lo has very little tummy time as it just makes her sick so she not turned over yet and 16wks yester. I agree with minkyj they all get there when they ready. My DD1 wasn't big fan of tummy time but was walking before she was one, so it didn't make big diff to her either. Just enjoy them whilst they are small they grow fast enough time feels like it zoomin by I'm already feeling :( about going back to work and juggling childcare and its not till Aug!

[snowysebs]

Also just a quick one. My LO doesn't like tummy time - think it feels really alien to her so I hardly ever put her on her front. She loves kicking about on the playmat and knocking the rattle toys and does occassionally roll on to her side though.

Re bottle feed/breast - sorry not much advice - I was very lucky in that my LO took breast and bottle from the get go, but then struggled with breast. I think 180ml sounds a lot for a breast fed baby - hte amounts on the side of the forumla is for formula fed babies and I would have thought a lot in one feed for a breast fed baby but I'm no expert as LO is totally forumla fed now (and has about 180 to 210 each feed five times in 24 hours).

LO has had a poo extravaganza in the last few days - 4 poos one day, 3 poos the next, 3 poos the next... can't keep up. It was lovely to change her nappy yesterday to find it was just wet!!! She looks happy enough though so not worrying.

Well PIL made it despite weather. MIL actually held her for a while last night which was nice. But it really annoys me as she keeps going on about seeing OH's ex this weekend and how she'll make her a crumble this afternoon (they seem to be good friends and keep in touch... every time she comes up here she spends time with her... I know my step kids will be there but it's the ex she wants to see... argh... nevermind.)

Hoping weather stays ok... got girlie night out tonight - meal - and so looking forward to it, but depends if roads stay ok... so far ok, but up here in the hills you never know. It's the night I'm wearing my engagement ring for first time and so excited ... i reckon it'll take one of my friends approx. 5 seconds to spot it...!!!

Hope everyone has good weekend... will post better replies next time...

[falalalalagirl]

Just a quickie as got loads to do.

Have a lovely time tonight sebs, it'll be great to have your engagement to talk about. Does anyone else get a bit fed up with friends paying the babies all the attention and not talking to you about anything else? Sometimes I just jump straight in with loads of questions about another subject so that people don't have a chance to just talk to me about DD!

DD slept from 7.30 - 5.30 last night I reckon she'd have gone longer but she has a rotten cold and she was so bunged up she could barely breathe. She then puked everywhere as obviously her belly is full of snot that she's swallowed Her poo and sick is all mucusy, sorry, tmi!

[MinkyjjMincyPies]

Have a brilliant evening with your new sparkly ring snowy - ignore mil - sounds like she could do with learning to keep her opinions a little more in check - there is a difference between staying in contact with ex family members and making new ones feel uncomfortable. I am best friends with my twin brothers ex fiancé but i never speak to my brother or sil about my friend or vice versa. Hope it is all okay on the end - rise above it. My hair is falling out everywhere !

[candrcane]

I am a teacher too (primary) and quite miss being in the classroom but not the planning, marking etc. Have popped in with LO a couple of times and the kids love seeing him.
Snowy, my DS has become a poo monster over the last 2 days, some are really watery and others are small but lost count after 9 yesterday. Was wondering if I should take him to Dr as I have been unwell and don't know how much I pass on through breast milk. Had projectile vomit over the bed at 4am the other day, made DH jump up in a hurry.
Falalala, I sometimes try to have a whole conversation without DS being brought into it - not quite managed yet.
Minky - I too am shedding, if I don't rinse off after washing hair in bath I look like I need a full body shave and baby keeps getting it in his hands and mouth.
Just heard today another of my (younger) friends has got engaged - not sure how to tell my twin sis as she is getting really depressed about being the last to get engaged (her DP is taking his time about it) She is happy for me but envious that I am married with a baby. Wish he would stop kicking his heels and listen to her body clock chiming like a gong.

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Oh gosh hair everywhere ere too its horrid.
Interesting wend I'm having v up&down. My brother is staying locally visitin us and folks with their DD 20mths old. He casually said oh baby 16wks old not sleepin through the night yet what are you doing to her then? I replied well I am only breast feeding her its normal. It's a sore subject as we had hellish time with our older daughters sleep, so when they had their baby he said I'm not putting up with that I like my sleep. So they put their one week old baby in its own room down a longesh corridor but they like to brag by 6wks she was sleeping 10-12hrs on her own. And they taught their babe to sleep.. .Despite the fact that this goes against ALL the advice you are given on SIDs &they gave babe lots formula, yet I'm the one who is being made to feel like I'm doing something wrong by breastfeeding on demand ,sleeping with baby in the room grrrrrrr made me feel very last night, not helped by feeling vtired and hormonal. Even my mum said today well dear if you don't put her down she isn't going to learn is she....gosh families really know how to push your buttons don't they! It's that time of the year isn't it! Well we are all going to a restaurant tom, so it will be interesting a 20mth old, 4yr and babe, who I will have to breastfeed at the table with both my dad and brother present :o actually my dad this time has been great with me feeding on demand. I'm vdescreet once babe is latched on and I've been out several times with them now and had to feed her.
Rant over, I did give Lo some tum today she was ok and "crawled" backwards lol.
Hope to catch some strictly dancing tonight.....enjoy your evenings

[the100yearsofchristmas]

Santageek, the moby wrap for me is fab :) Although I saw someone out while I was in town yesterday and she said she never got on with hers, couldn't get it tight enough to keep her LO high enough. I've never had a problem.

Jojo, I bought mine off amazon. I don't do much on ebay.

ssmile. I use this hold Find it very comfortable. I have also tried the kangaroo hold. I keep material over my shoulders so it covers a little bit of my upper arms which helps to give a bit more tension and has stopped me getting back ache wearing it. How is the migraine. I get them loads, although while pregnant they practically stopped (one reason to get pregnant again ) I used to be on preventatives etc and can't eat loads of things, I'm starting to get a few again now :(

Hey cosmic, I think I remember you from the antenatal thread too, welcome to the other side.

Minky I might look at that migraine info too.

Yay for other rolling babies :) Well done to baby falala and candr

My LO seems to like being on her tummy, but gets bored quickly, but now she is rolling she is constantly doing it and as soon as she is on her mat she is over onto her tim!

Sorry I know I have missed a few people out, but I need to go and entertain or feed or something!

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Thanks for link 100 I used hug hold at home to do stuff in kitchen and its better now Lo can hold her head better. will try wrap tom when going to restaurantbe much easier than buggy
We are nearly at 1000 posts so I will set up new thread in postnatal clubs called september 2011 babies rolling into 2012

[the100yearsofchristmas]

Ssmile I still tuck LO head in esp when she's tired and I think the comfort of being close makes her fall asleep :) she seems to sleep well in it. And I've had numerous undesturbed meals with her in it :) I'll look for the other thread to link them together as I was thinking of us needing another one

[the100yearsofchristmas]

Ladies please pleased nip over to the new thread

HERE

Many thanks ssmile for setting the new thread up

Merry Christmas and good bye to this thread. It's been a fun first 3 months.

[MinkyjjMincyPies]

Found you !

[MinkyjjMincyPies]

No can't get to it on iPhone - will wait till it's a bit more obvious.

[the100yearsofchristmas]

Minky on iPhone app click on topics at the bottom of the screen. Then choose 'being a parent' then scroll down a bit to 'post natal clubs' and you will find the new thread there. Hope that helps and you see this