september edd new babies arriving come share the ups and downs here

[ssmile]

Hello. Think i was first to deliver off the September EDD thread so waving to see if anyone else out there yet to join me :)
Had my 2nd DD on 26aug by C-sec. We now home but struggling with BF and baby lost 10% body weight in 3days. Started to top up with formula in syringe to try give cracked. Bleeding nipples a rest, but milk is starting to drip out now leaking everywhere! Hoping for a better night tonight after 3nights of hourly feeds and snatching 2-3hrs of sleep.
Anyone else struggling too?

[jimmijam]

summerpixie how was school run? Im getting used to it now but luckily dh has managed 2 get time off eork 2 pop home & take ds1 to nursery wen needed as its in opposite direction 2 school. Im dreading the 1st nursery/school run with all 3 in october :-(
mrss sounds like u had the opposite birthing experience 2 me. I hope ur doing ok now. I still tjink abpuy bad birth experienve with ds1 4 years on. Not nice. It dors help to talk it thru tho.

Bloody pushchair- mothercare excursion only been using it a week, still useable but slready broken! Emailed by 20am yesterday 'reply within 24hours' nothing, so will prob give them a ring. Its peeing me off anyway as such a fiddle 2 use wouldnt recomend it!!

[Minkyjj]

Mrs s - congrats but poor you with the cut - glad it's healing well.
Feral and ssmile - lol about your night experiences and husbands take on what constitutes a good night. I find the nights so awful at the moment - dh is up on our loft room on the top floor and I am on the middle floor with lo in with me and dd1 and ds1 in their bedrooms next door. It's so lonely when you are awake for hours, tired and not sure when you are going to get any sleep and for how long for ! I dread the night time nappy changes too as it's hard creeping around with a newborn trying to keep them quiet so they don't wake the other dcs. I also feel that it's sometimes a bit like a competition as to who had the least sleep (dh is an insomniac). Needless to say I think I need a plan to overcome the night dread - might invest in a warm fluffy dressing gown and new slippers to keep warm and maybe also get the dab digital radio tuned into mellow fm - has anyone discovered anything that helps them get through the witching hours ?

[ssmile]

minkyj mumsnet on my phone gets me through the witchin hrs :) that or just surfing the net whislt lo is feeding I balance phone behind her on pillow so light doesn't effect her.

[ssmile]

Grrrr Lo has hickcups again....its the pain of the 2am fed she doesn't like them and now prob guarantees I will be up till 4am by the time she been bounced, changed and fed again Hohum. I used infacol, winded her and gently put her back into basket settled into my bed 5mins later....hick....hick... anyone else have this prob?

[Minkyjj]

Ssmile that's a good tip - will give it a go. I have the same problem with hiccups - sign of immature digestive system. I am using infacol but not sure that it works or not. Tried colief in past with other dcs but not easy with bf milk as have to pre-mix in milk. Seems so annoying when you seem so close to sleep and then you realise the possibility has just vanished with that tiny sound. The hiccups are lessened by using a dummy as lo seems to suck through them. I also sometimes try feeding again as I know one of the remedies in adulthood is to drink - tricks the spasm of the digestive track into going back the right way I think ? Worth a shot.
Lo is now back down but is chasing rabbits in his sleep, lost dummy in process and will probably awake in 5 mins. My right nipple feels like it's been chewed by wasps so let's hope he doesn't need more food ! Only a few more hours till daybreak and calmer waters !

[ssmile]

Hi minkyj I did the bounce n cuddle tight this time and by 3am managed successgul transfer to basket with no hickups got an hrs kip now feeding on other boobie. I tried feeding whilst she had hickcups earlier but she just sicks up the milk 10mins later. Had to changes her, blanket,& sheet as she covered I'd turned light off was drifting off didn't realise till put hand on her tum and it wet nice :( she feeding of her favourite side now has more milk so fingers crossed she settles after this one till 6.30am when I have to get up anyway. Hope your night goes ok now minkyj

[Minkyjj]

Ssmile - what a shame the extrafeeding didn't work. Lo currently hiccupping again but sucking on his dummy so okay. He managed to sleep in his Moses basket last night which was a step forward.
Dh just brought me a coffee and looks like death warmed up - complaining about his bad nights sleep because he now has a cold - which he will probably end up passing on to me and lo or the other dcs. My sympathy is slowly running out this week - every time we have had a baby it always becomes about how he is suffering from lack of sleep despite the fact it's usually completely unrelated to baby stuff. Yesterday he was moaning that he hasn't managed to use his golf voucher so my mum says she will cover him next week on any school runs (she covered all this week too). Beginning to really get a bit

[100years]

Morning all.

Whoa, tiredness rules OK with me the last 24 hours. Finding the evenings when the tiredness hits me the most. Going to just chill out as much as possible today. Managing some good sleep at night, but it still doesn't quite feel enough for me, having said that, she's not yet 2 weeks old and so I should be thinking I'm doing well to get bouts of a couple of hours at night. She does sleep well at night, no real long wake periods at night and a feed usually does it, then back to sleep, so it's not like I'm awake for hours on end. Takes a little getting used to this feeding at night thing doesn't it!

[ssmile]

Not sure if this would help you 100yrs but my DH takes babe after a feed at 7/8pm for upto two hrs so I can get some sleep in my bank to cope with nighttime. He has a bottle to cope with her if she needs to feed. We didn't do this with our first and I slowly ended up a stressed exhausted mess with in a few wks and by 6wks when we did introduced a bottle she wouldn't take it and never did until I got her onto sippy cup at 7mths. This time we tried bottle at 2wks just once a day either ebm or formula and DH is prepared to do couple hrs in return for him getting 7-8hrs sleep on sofa and happier more coping me :o its working so far....gd luck the nights are hard but do get easier.

[100years]

Yeah my OH takes her for a while in between feeds either late afternoon or early evening so I can have a sleep, but as yet she isn't on other feeds, so if she needs feeding I'm then awake, I'm going to start expressing so he can give her a feed. But I do have a nap every day later on to get through the evening, it just doesn't feel quite enough, I used to be a bit of a sleep monster myself, so it's a big change to not get the sleep as much as I would like. Thank you :) The pump is coming out today so I can try express.

[ssmile]

This may sound odd but its not total hrs sleep I get but the quality. My sleep cycle goes in 2hr chunks I think as if I get 1.5hrs or 2.5hrs I wake grumpy but if I get 2hrs feel refreshed, I know my body needs min 6hrs a day to function so if I can get 3lots of 2hrs I can function ok. Before DD1- I was 9hrs a night girl but I think my body has just adjusted, but if 9hrs was on offer I wouldn't turn it down :o
There is vgd reason sleep deprivation is used as torture because it is utterly debilitating and screws the mind up!

[summerpixie]

Arghhhh bliming boob pain. DD had been ripping right nipple apart so had her sleeping on my left last night. Woke
Up during her 2am feed and my t shirt was soaked. So had to pump and felt ok until this morning when engorgement kicked in and hasn't left!
I pumped at it for 2 hours and I still have blocked ducts which I can feel the ones causing pain but they are deep down so can't squeeze them when expressing.
School run has been ok except for the traffic. A 10 min journey has been taking me 45 mins the past 2 mornings. Thank god dh is back on evening shifts next week so can do the dreaded morning run whilst I take the relaxed afternoon one.
Anyway hope the sleep deprived get some more sleep. I find co sleeping and sleep feeding helps with sleep.

[feralgirl]

summerpixie, when I get lumps, I find a good way to get rid of them is to get the shower as hot as I can stand it, put the shower head on the high pressure setting and direct it right at the lump while I poke at it or express!

Minky, re the witching hour boredom, my best mate gave me a memory stick with a load of audiobooks on for my birthday in the summer which was just inspired. I have put them all on my kindle and am working my way through them, it means I don't need to put the light on and so DD doesn't fully wake up.

Ssmile, DD gets hiccups too. The only way to stop hers are to feed her again but, like you, I find that she will sometimes get sick after although it seems less likely for her to puke if we're lying down to feed. I tried infacol for it but she was not impressed and spat it out and screamed at me!

I am also getting about listening to DH moan about being tired. This week he has had a whole morning off, courtesy of my mum who thought he needed it ; an evening at the pub with his mate; and then on Sunday he's going to get a tattoo done, leaving me with both DCs formost of the day. My total 'time off' this week? None as DD is permanently attached, even when not feeding.

And when my dad said to me yesterday that if I wanted he and my mum could come and help me out at the weekend, my mum said, "no, she's got to learn to manage on her own sooner or later." Clearly she has conveniently forgotten the fact that, in the 70s when she had kids, women got to stay in hospital for a fortnight after, having their meals cooked for them and their babies brought to them when they needed to be fed!

[MrsSawyer]

minkyjj i feel like that too, its all become about DH and how tired he is, although he gets up with me, warms babys bottle while i try to stop him screaming his head off (hes a "feed me, feed me now" kind of kid!) and waking up DS1, but then procedes to sit downstairs with me watching me as i feed the baby and then complains about how tired he is - sod off back to bed then! Rant over.

Am I the only one on here bottle feeding? I couldnt BF as LO wasnt happy, thought I wasnt too upset tbh due to issues with DS1 re. breatfeeding but well done to you all for keeping going!

Babe is quite a windy baby but good old infacol is doing its stuff, though he does suffer with hiccups, bless him, apart from that, all is well here - happy friday everyone :)

[lolajane2009]

another 5 and a half oz since monday and he is finally over his birthweight but still below 0.4th percentile.

[Minkyjj]

Ouchy ouch ouch ouch - breast pain is getting really bad - not just nipple but a stabbing shooting pain even when not feeding like a really painful milk let down - have a nasty feeling it might be something not too great like thrush or something else. Typical as well that it's all kicked off tonight after I spent an hour with great breast-feeding lady today. Luckily the midwife is due tomorrow - hope to god she can help as I don't think will be getting much sleep tonight!

[summerpixie]

Oh dear minky. I hope you can get your pain sorted. I had needle like pains early on but it always went the next day and DD didn't have thrush mouth nor were my nipples itchy or White. My blocked ducts have cleared now after the massaging and pumping. They just get painfully engorged when I have a nice 5 hour sleep like earlier.
MrsSawyer I am mixed feeding but using bottles for most of my feeds. DD has just latched on but bot properly so my nipples are in extreme pain. DD is also a feed me now baby and gets frustrated when she can't fit my fat nipple into her tiny mouth so it's just sometimes easier to give her expressed milk. Have you tried expressing or is it a no go for you?
Ssmile I hope you are Ok as we've not heard from you.
Lolajane any weight gain is super. As long as LO is over birth weight then the MW can discharge you and get off your back. Hopefully the weight gain will continue.
Sorry if I've got some names wrong but j am on the app and it doesnt show previous posts whilst I type. 3am. Time to stop pumping and go to bed again I think. Hope you all have been having good nights (and days).

[ssmile]

Not having gd morn :( my worst fears my back gave way this morn. Was in tears on the floor whilst next door my DD1 in tears having tantrum refushing her breakfast and DH losing his temper with her as he was trying to get her ready for ballet& tap class. My back is real worry as i had serious disc problem 3yrs ago and spent 2yrs rebuildin my strength& core strength, I've managed it all through preg &its one of reason I had C-sec. I terrified of the disc going again as it was horrid effected all aspects of my life and DH. I am now lying on the floor of lounge having fed babe lying down she now lying in my bent legs head on my knees as it gd position for back rest &she just wants to be held. I praying hard a weekend of rest buys me enough energy& strength to do school run next wk otherwise I will be in real trouble :( sorry to be so down today. I hope u are all doing better x

[Minkyjj]

Ssmile - so sorry that you're having a tough day - I truly understand about the fear oflosing that core strength as that's what happens with me - you need to get urgent referral to post natal physic and or team ASAP. The withdrawal of high progesterone and effects of the pregnancy and birth are probably causing the problem but you may get some as advice that helps - will be thinking of you.
Summerpixie that advice helps - I have no sign of thrush just these shooting pains like uncomfortable let down all the time. Seems better this morning - will ask midwife later.
Wishing you all a lovely weekend and hopefully some extra support from dhs dps . On that note - mine stayed up till three thirty am playing on his xbox but still didn't think to offer to change a nappy ! Hence I have stayed in bed watching telly rather than get up with dcs this fine day!

[jimmijam]

ssmile sounds truly horrible, cant imagine wot ur going thru. Add 2 that ur fears :'( im sure we all have more than just our fingers crossed u make a speedy recovery & that ur ok 4 school runs in the week xx

[ssmile]

Ive eaten box of Thorntons chocolates a friend bought me yester Feeling sorry for myself. DH been vgd took DD1 to her dance class which is way out of his comfort zone and taken her to his friends hse this arvo so I can rest. Been icing my back, found wedge cushion and been lying on the floor with babe. He been great but he glum cause he tired which in my head I think grrr try being up every night for last 4wks living off 5-6hrs broken sleep daily, they just wouldnt manage would they! I swear mine thinks I have some magic hormones that makes it easier to cope with the sleep deprivation rather than just sheer bloody mind over matter because you have no choice :) he went to Tesco express earlier I asked him to look for the by one get one free smiles as we both needed some.

[ssmile]

Thanks for support minkyj & jimmijam I had a years Physio post DD1, plus 4yrs chiropractor treatment, &year of Pilates so got a gd repartar of what I can &can't do with my back but life gets in the way too when you have kids to look after. Once I'm healed from C-sec I can start doing more Pilates &get on my bike which was best thing for it I've really missed cycling not done any for 7mths now. I'm doing stretches daily &basic pelvic floor exercises. I figure if I can clear hse of chocolates over the weekend can start healthy diet Monday shift some weight too that will help a lot.

minkyj really hope your breast pain eases that doesnt sound gd at all.
jimmijam hope headache lifts. I've had daily hangover all-night party feeling in morning think it just broken sleep really messes with body clock.

[feralgirl]

ssmile, that's horrible. I really hope you're able to get plenty of down time over the weekend. Your DD's doing whole mornings at school starting next week too isn't she? I hope you're able to use that time to chill too. I'm planning to use DS's nursery time in the mornings to go back to bed and have an (albeit interrupted) lie-in.

Your plight has put shame to my moan about my crappy day today on my own with the two DCs with DS having got a heinous stomach bug and spending the whole day V&Ding constantly. We were supposed to be going to a friend's wedding party this evening but DH has gone without me as I don't want to subject my parents to DS puking and screaming all evening

And I will join you in scoffing crap all weekend so we can start a strict regime of healthy eating on Monday. I also need to be sure that my stitches are all healed before I start doing anything too strenuous and I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to do much given that DD is permanently attached atm so proper exercise might have to wait until she's a little bit more independent.

minky, I really hope your boobs get better soon

[ssmile]

feralgirl I hope ur DS recovers from bug and the rest of you don't get it they are horrid.

We having bad night not with baby but DD1 she is just being a nightmare at moment. Her behaviour has been deterioratiny badly since babe arrived 4wks ago, we have always had poor sleep with her and its got so bad lately and then she gets stuck in cycle of tired child and poor behaviour its utterly exhaustint dealing with it as a couple but DH been dealing with her mostly alone as I been doing babe but tonight he cracking under strain. She yet again not gone to sleep till 10pm (in bed at 7.15pm after long winddown bath) screamin house down at 1am bad dreams won't let her sleep. We've had sedative off the Dr in the past when she been this bad, as nothing worked and believe you me we tried everything. My poor DH in tears of despair not knowing how to handle her and I'd only just got babe back to sleep who been up 1.5hrs :(

[Minkyjj]

Ssmile - you are having such a rough time this week - your luck has to change soon . Our dd1 was a nightmare sleeper and we had to go on a sleep training course which eventually worked but we thought it would break us at the time.
Feral - so feeling for you - I dread the vomiting bugs more than I can ever say - I have such a bad phobia of anyone being sick - so really feeling for you and hope it doesn't sweep the family.
Saw midwife today who has referred us to Tongue tie clinic - lo isn't fully tinge tied but there is a tightness there and he also has a receded chin which she thinks is making feeding difficult and may be why he is clamping so hard to my nipples ! Gonna try nipple shields later to get some respite from those little gums !
So far have banked two hours sleep - off to try and bank another two or three