April 2009 Episode 15 Bebe & BB have babies n stuff

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Ah ladies

Sorry I missed tonight - I could have made it but simply didn't follow all the planning etc - I'm not on FB or MN a lot nowadays. Hope you're all having fun.

WFH, I make DD1 cry on a regular basis. She can just be so unpleasant compared to H. And you're right, every simple instruction turns into a battle. She's a moody cow in fact. Sad to think that H will be like that in 2 years' time too!

So, how was it then? .

Lovely to see everyone but the restaurant I suggested was a lot busier and noisier than I remembered it, so I think that made conversation a bit difficult. It was lovely to see everyone, though.

Hello lovelies. Springy here. Trying to stick my head through the door more than once every 6 months to say hello! I don't have internet in my new house yet (I'm at my parents' at the moment, scavenging a roast dinner!) but it should be sorted by the beginning of next month. My phone can just about handle FB, but has some sort of grudge against MN so I'll still be quiet until I get my broadband, but I really should try & keep up with you all.
Seeing everyone on Friday reminded me how great you are. & gorgeous! I think it's statistically unlikely that a random group of women joined only by the birth month of their children should be that attractive! I just clomped around feeling studenty. & for those of you wondering, BB is still completely fresh-faced & vibrant despite a toddler & new twins, & producing 2 pints of milk a day. MADNESS.
Love to you all xx

It was really nice to see everyone, very sorry Vezzie couldn't make it in time.
Everyone was lovely, Springy went off with lots of motherly advice, BB looked insanely untired for someone sleeping so little and producing so much milk, Boff was Boff and she-whose-new-posting-name-I-cannot-recall had a magnificent flower. If only the barman had provided the free champagne he seemed to have promised...

Oh, and I had a lovely lunch with Bicnod and, erm wrigglyfish (?? have name-change amnesia, it's awful...) on Wed.

Have returned home from a wonderful week sans enfants to find Alex has had the runs since Wed and his poor bum is in shreds. Off to the docteur tomorrow. oh, and I am trying my hardest to iron out the nice, sharp creases MIL has ironed into the front of all my jeans, but it'd be petty to complain about it, really

Sorry I missed everyone, Auld especially. Still feeling grotty here.

The grottiness has reached our house and I feel like shite. Have to get myself through the personal training session AND zumba tonight (I'd give it a miss but have already paid and do not like to waste money on things like that!)

Oh WFH, I join you on losing my temper - Karahan is getting a bit of stick these days when actually he is just acting up for some attention from his high maintenance baby sisters!

Dinner was lovely, and was very nice to put faces to everyone, Guimuave and her green flower were lovely (although she and springy did have to educate me on the art of lesbian scissoring! ) boff was indeed boff and Auld COMPLETELY different to how I imagined her looks wise (Auld you were were very blonde in my mind despite your FB pics!) but equally lovely in rl! Was fairly tame because of bfing, trains (which I very nearly missed) and confirmations but nice to catch up.

Lulubai and I have been chatting about a daytime thing in Richmond pre Xmas if anyone is up for it?

Sorry about the grottiness.
How funny that I was so unlike you expected, BB! I am a bit blonder in summer, but haven't been actually blonde for about 36 years.

I know in my mind you were incredibly tall with straight, mid length, light ash blonde hair so pretty much the opposite of the rl you x it's funny how you picture people even when seeing pictures!

I think you may have had me muddled up with BA, which is half-flattering...

Ladies any tips for de-clinging toddlers? Mine won't let me leave the room without tears and a mini heart wrenching breakdown it's worse now he's poorly but has been pretty bad for a while x

BB Orbit has been like this for a while and is just getting a bit better - I put it down to a bout of separation anxiety plus he's had this filthy bug so has been feeling rubbish, and then the whole big boy bed and potty training thing, it's quite a lot for a small person to cope with.

And yours has suddenly acquired some sisters!

I don't know of anything you can do except ride it out, lots of cuddles and kisses, but keep life the same, don't change their routine or structure because imho that will make them even more insecure. They need to know the important things have stayed the same, like Mummy and Daddy and bedtime etc.

Mind you, I just wept on DP at the prospect of no more babies Was putting the cot away and wondering why I don't just sell it, seeing as we've decided no more, but feel really sad at that bit of my life being over .

Ah wfh ((hugs)) hope you're ok. Is it a definite decision? We are in discussion now as dh wants more and at the moment I don't but am not ruling it out in the future just not for a very, very long time (like when girls are 4!) whereas he is thinking in the next couple of years

Glad orbit is coming out of it now - think we may have found our reason. Karahan has a come up with some watery headed spots today so 90% sure he had chicken pox just need to see if it comes to anything tomorrow as he only has 2 spots at the mo.

It's very hard though, we've kept things very normal but he won't even stay with my sister and mum who he is incredibly close too. Hopefully if it is pox once it's gone he will get better but we will have to see.

Ergh chicken pox. Orbit hasn't had it yet, I have that joy to come. DS1 had it when he was two so it can't be far away! My top tip is an oat bag in the bath to soothe the itching. Hope K feels better soon.

It's a pretty definite decision - I'd love to be able to wait and see but I'm 37 so haven't really got much time left to change our minds.

I am going to a cocktail party tonight though. So can't be too old.

No pox they spots and rash turned to nothing (after I searched the bloody village for calamine lotion last night ad looked like it was starting to come out all over him!). Still had a rash but temp is back to normal and seems to be perkier today x

Wfh - how was the cocktail party?

Excuse god awful spelling - it's the darn iPhone

Danced till 3am after hitting the margaritas.......and it's my turn to get up this morning....

Thank god the boys decided to lie in till 7.30 ish. The usual 6.30 might have killed me!

Bummer about K's spots - although he might have had a very mild case - it happens. Means he could still get it again though.

I hope K is better today?

WFH you put me to shame. I'm 33 and was very grateful for bed at midnight last night. We took friends out to dinner and it was lovely but I feel shattered.

I did pass out on the sofa for over two hours this afternoon though . Having first done the shopping, taken the boys to the park, hung the washing out, tidied the kitchen and made breakfast for my mum (who babysat).

Vair tired now. Early night, I think.

Oh my goodness it's quiet on here - hello lovely April mummies, I'm sorry I've been hiding for so long - newest baby Bicnod is rather hard work at the moment.

Just been reading back over our antenatal threads from when O was the same age as J is now to see if it was as hellish in the sleep deprivation stakes. It was. So this is entirely normal and may well carry on for another year. God help me!

Hope you are all well - will try and pop in a bit more regularly from now on.

Christmas kisses xx

Hello stranger! Nice to see you- sounds like your wee one is keeping you busy. Is he still so clingy during the day and up so much at night?

My baby is up a couple of time at night still but isn't too much of a bother, although I think teething is about to start. It's the toddler who is making life difficult. I might post for some advice soon.

Hope everyone is well xx

Hey Zulu :) Yep, super extra mega clingy during the day (and night) and was pretty much up/down/up/down all night last night. got about 3 hours sleep. Again. Gah. I think he might actually be worse than Oscar was at this stage :( he won't settle for DH at all during the night, just screams and screams and the second he transfers to me he stops, so it's only me who can do the settling. Grrrr. Argh. Etc. I'm feeding him to sleep as much as possible as don't know what else to do, but sometimes he's just awake for hours anyway. No naptime routine. No feeding routine. Won't take a bottle. I am doomed aren't I?!

O on the other hand is a delight - so it sounds like we're having opposite problems.

Hope everyone else comes back soon - my (early) new year's resolution is to be on MN more as it helped so much with the tough times with O.

Oh Bicnod, you poor thing. That sounds like hell on earth. I don't know if I can offer much useful advice, but I can definitely keep you company .

It sounds like he's been through some pretty big developmental things from your facebook posts - early teeth and early sitting, and he's a big boy too. I know you're not allowed to say this on MN, but have you weaned him yet? Not saying it's the right or wrong thing to do.

DS was a total nightmare at taking a bottle. I remember throwing one across the room in frustration. Perseverance and me leaving the room while DH fed eventually worked, but I remember it being a battle.

If you're having a shit night and want some company feel free to post - I'm up at least once, usually somewhere between 2 and 4, MNing.

Focus on your lovely toddler and remember DS2 will be like that before you know it xx

Thanks Zulu

You're a GP aren't you? Do you think it would be the end of the world if I weaned him at 5 months? He'll be 5 months old in 5 days time and I do wonder if it would help him be a bit more settled. If he was up all night and lovely and calm during the day it would be so much easier to handle.

xx

Bicnod I'm an anaesthetist so I have no qualifications in this area. However, I've copied this from the WHO website:

"Around the age of six months, an infant's need for energy and nutrients starts to exceed what is provided by breast milk and complementary foods are necessary to meet those needs. At about six months of age, an infant is also developmentally ready for other foods."

To me the key words are "around" and "about". All babies are different and if you think J is developmentally ready (ie sitting up unaided and lost the tongue pushing stuff out of mouth action) then to me he's likely to be one of the ones who's ready a bit earlier. My DD, on the other hand, is 12lb and barely sitting up even though she's 5 months tomorrow. There's no way she's ready.

However I am happy to be flamed by more knowledgeable people. I just think all these guidelines need to be used alongside a wee bit of common sense.

Disclaimer: when I weaned DS his sleep went tits-up for at least a week. And J's sleeping (or lack of it) and clinginess may have nothing to do with hunger. Only you can make that judgement.

Sending you lots of and .