April 2009 Episode 15 Bebe & BB have babies n stuff

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Ta da

Wow BeBe! Well done you. She is beautiful. Dramatic entrance though. Has it sunk in yet?

Hope you can sit down soon. Savlon baths and co-codamol are what saved me with DSs episiotomy. Milk in yet?

I have just discovered the Mumsnet mobile site. You will all have known about it for years no doubt, but I feel like a pioneer posting while feeding a baby in bed . A month old today and chubbing up nicely. Now all she needs to do is learn the difference betweeen night and day....

Bebe - congratulations! She is gorgeous and what an incredible birth story. Sorry about your soreness :o( make sure you get midwives to check stitches don't get infected - I ended up having to have two courses of antibiotics to sort mine out and I think it is probably because I had to wait three hours to be stitched in the first place...

Schulte - well done for winning the thread :)

Zulu - I feel your pain. James is up all the time at night at the moment as well. He did a 5 hour stretch one night last week (11pm to 4am) and I thought maybe that would be the start of Good Things but it hasn't quite worked out like that. I'm currently surviving on about 4 hours of broken sleep a night and not managing to nap most days as have Oscar as well. I'm sure you're in the same boat - keep telling myself it won't last forever - isn't it around 6/8 weeks they become a bit more predictable? Feeding lying down is fabulous - I've done it from day 1 with James as I never cracked it with Oscar so thought I'd try from the outset. I often fall asleep as he's feeding and wake up 45 minutes later, baby asleep and bed covered in milk. Nice.

Boff - how are you doing now? Thinking about you x

BB - not too long now - I still can't believe you're having twins

So who is coming to the meet up on Thursday?! At the moment recently confirmed are:

Puzzle
Schulte
Bicnod

If anyone else is coming then post on the FW FB page so we can get organised and work out where, when etc.

Right. Cup of tea then feed the boy.

Milk came in yesterday afternoon and I'm perking up nicely We're doing only lay down feeds (as I still cannot sit) which i'm wondering if it's partly why the feeds are better so far.
I've only been taking the co-codamol at night to get me to sleep as I've still not (TMI alert) had a poo... otherwise it's the paracetamol. The Doc also said I could take ibuprofen for a few days to help with swelling, but I've not done it as I can tell the swelling has eased. I've been having tea tree baths and using witch hazel spray before and after wee's. It's just the sitting which causes the terrible 'pulling feeling' which is sharp and very uncomfortable.

It's beginning to sink in finally as the last of the laundry/mess is now cleaned... but I still saw the name 'Dewi' yesterday and thought 'If we do have a boy that might be cute...oh yeah...'

Looks like it's going to be a cosy meet up. Right, 5 minutes to read Bebe's story. . . .

"You cannot go out of the house without covering up a little hun you'll be devastated later."

Seriously though, what a birth story. Well done all of you. Sorry you are so uncomfortable. I hope everything heals very soon. I took lots of salt baths both times.

And she really is a gorgeous poppet.

bebe - i've just realised i put when I wanted to put about your soreness i'm sorry lovely - honestly not grinning about you being in pain x

Bebe, what a fantastic birth story. Well done. Glad the feeding is going well. Feeding lying down is the most marvellous thing. I wish you very best with your stitches, take care and let them heal in their own time - no rushing about please.

And yes, Zulu, mumsnet on the phone is a revelation! Also, this time round, I have a kindle. All around very comfortable.

Bicnod - hang in there!

Gosh - is it this Thursday? (beetling off to Facebook)

Well done, Bebe. A real FJ warrior birth indeed! I am impressed.

WRT your ladygarden, FemePads are great- cold packs for fanjos available from Mothercare.

BTW make sure a consultant sees your fanjo if you have any concerns at all about how it is healing - I relied on MWs and house officers to repair mine and they did not do a particularly good job, which I understand is quite common.

Wow Bebe - well done! What an impression to make on your in laws and the EMC but seriously impressive birth story! Gwynneth is lovely and looks very content in the pictures. Do make sure you keep on getting checked out if you are still sore. My sister damaged her back in labour and 'left' it to heel on the advice of the HV and now needs lots and lots of work on it to make it line up again. Seriously though you are thinking of another already? WOW! I was so far away from thinking about a second after K (especially the process of making said second baby)

Zulu I found it about three weeks ago and DH is not impressed at something else to keep me glued to my phone!!!

Bic ooh I remember those nights - I've kind of been trying to forget them - although my 5 times a night toilet trips are helping me prepare a bit for it!
I know what you mean about the twin thing. Saturday I was down at the park with K and suddenly I thought, Oh pretty soon there will be three of them down here - then it was like an 'OH MY GOD I'M HAVING TWO BABIES' moment. Think that's the first time I had really and truly thought about the logistics of it all - managing three of them on a daily basis! Got my 32 week scan tomorrow so hoping they will book me in for my induction / CS depending on the placenta for around 5 weeks time.

I'm on for Thursday. I won't be bringing K as I can't really chase after him (and he's a runner!) and I have to pop into a meeting in town in the morning.

Hope everyone is ok - I better go and remove K from my window ledge...

Fab, can't wait to see you all. I have been working (at home) this past week and we are all getting cabin fever.

Hurrah! And it looks like the weather will be good on Thursday

BB we're not having any more kids!! I gave you that impression? HELL NO! MW who double checked the stitches was trying to convince me I should populate the world with cute little girls. I said 2 gorgeous offspring was more than enough, I didn't want to upset the balance for all the other lovely girls in the world.
2 is plenty and to be honest it'll be too expensive to travel to the States if we have any more anyhow.

My bits seem to better(ish) today. :) We went into the mall yesterday and I walked around and I'm wondering if that helped some actually. I'm sitting very gingerly on the couch and I'm not thinking of dying I really want to look, and yet I really don't at the same time...I'm horrible looking at healing wounds/stitches, especially stitches. DH flat out refused to look at the stitching and 'work' done on me this time saying that it made him feel utterly sick and guilty last time and he could remember well enough how terrible that rather minuscule cut looked..

baby Woo slept 6 hours last night...my left breast is a solid rock :( and she's woke up jaundice. I've got her in the sun and will be doing my darnedest to feed her every 2 hours (for both our relief) and hopefully it all passes soon. HV comes tomorrow anyhow to check up on her so if it's not getting better she'll let us know.

Must check out MN on phone...and I agree abt the kindle... lying in bed feeding Woo and distracting myself from the tenderness by reading is fab!

what to do abt Woo refusing a side

Try not to worry too much about the jaundice; Holly was like Lisa Simpson for almost two weeks.

I can't help re the refusing one side. I hope you get some answers and the engorgement subsides soon. Lots of heat on the breast helped me.

Thanks Puzz :)
I'm not worrying too much as it's eased since this morning :) She's still yellow but she's not so much banana as meringue now. Plus the HV will be here to look at her tomorrow and if anything more need be done it'll be accomplished tomorrow. :)

Just perturbed more with the fact that we've got this curve ball when I really want to be smooth sailing and enjoying my time with her more. (tho honestly I'm so much less worried and anxious and crazy and I'm not 'hating it' as I was with Moo) Even last night when I was angry and resentful abt everyone sleeping and me not and having huge sore breasts which dh will ALSO never have to deal with (along with the joys of ripped bits) I was looking at her and not dreading the next time that I had to feed her. With Moo I dreaded every feed until abt 4months. BUT I am so looking forward to having a bigger healthy baby that I can feed without pain and worry. :)

Oh, I wish I could come on Thursday. Think I should just jump on a train?

Bebe, how are you and your girls (referring to your children, not your breasts ) today?

Bicnod, I'm hoping that six to eight weeks is when they get more predictable too. I wish I'd kept a diary from last time now- I can't remember anything. It sounds like I'm getting a wee bit more sleep than you though. Is it getting any better?

The girls are getting on really well. Moo was utterly sweet with Woo today :) Held her loads and wanted to carry her out to the car when we went out for a little bit

As for the other girls HV came over today (rather than yesterday) and she popped Woo on in abt a second! I was like OMG SO UNFAIR!!! she laughed ans showed me abt pinching the areola behind the nipple when engorged and having Woo straight on my lap (no pillow) so that she could completely in line with the nipple/ breast to help drain it...
It was amazing; suddenly Woo was eating efficiently and the boulder I was carrying around became a flaccid breast again. thank goodness!

Hurrah for your HV. Good to hear a positive story about one on here.

Hey ladies, sorry I have been awol and very sorry I missed the meet up. My meeting went on and on and got puzz's message just as I was leaving central london. And then my phone died!

Hope you are all ok, gutted i missed baby James and you ladies.

Been a bit crazy here. Work has been manic (despite supposed to be winding down) and the babies are giving me all sorts of gyp!

Had a scan last week that showed that both babies were breach (after being head down) and the placenta which both myself and my midwife were pretty sure had moved has actually lodged down even further and is covering the os by 4cms which means I have NO chance of a natural birth and that I was now considered high risk because twin one was in danger of tearing away from the placenta because of the position. THEN on Friday the little bugger decided to stop moving and I was taken in for monitoring. Both babies fine but twin one still not moving enough so I was in on Saturday, yesterday and again today (at 3 hours a time). Then last night started having contractions (for an hour) then they went away). So we are desperately trying to keep these babies in until post 34 weeks (am 33 weeks today), whilst trying to get everything completed for work (which finishes next Friday thank goodness!!). Sure I will be sat here at 37 weeks with these two inside but right now they have to stay put so their lungs can fully develop.

So that was a mammoth me post!

How is everyone else?

Wow BB. Sounds like you've been having a busy time! Are you OK? Are you sure you should still be working? (stupid question - it's you we're dealing with, but feel I should at least say it!). Sounds like you should be sitting with your feet up. Keep us posted.

How was the meet-up?

I got my consultant job. Hooray! It was a horrible interview and I wasn't happy with how I'd come across so when I was offered the job I was really surprised. I'm not sure it's sunk in even now. It's a job for life so a Big Deal and means we can stay living where we do and our kids can go to the lovely school down the road etc. Lovely feeling!

WFH, how did your job interview go?

Yay Zulu huge congrats! Well done!!! . When do you start?

I'm regretting staying on this long but I've got 7 working days left and I'm working from home so its not too horrendous (she says!!)

Oh BB - that must have been very scary when one twin wasn't moving enough (how can you tell which is which by the way?!) Could you stop work earlier than planned? It really sounds like you should be putting your feet up.

Zulu - congratulations! That's amazing news - getting a new job at the same time as having a new baby is pretty spectacular!

Meet up was fab - we must must must do it again soon. Schulte's hosting skills are impeccable and I enjoyed watching baby James puke his way around the group

Speaking of James - he fed at 7pm, dreamfeed at 10.45pm, feed at 3.30am, feed at 6.50am. I can't actually believe he did such a brilliant night and he's not even 6 weeks yet - I have high hopes for this one being a good sleeper - surely I deserve it after the hell I went through with Oscar?!

Right, must make house look vaguely respectable - we've got 3 estate agents coming round to value it today as we're seriously considering a move out of London

Oh wow Zulu, that's fantastic news. I hope you plan to treat yourself for being so bloody awesome?

BB I don't know what to say other than I hope the next few weeks fly by for you. So is Friday your last day?

Has anyone heard from a certain academic mother of many?

Thanks all. Start when I go back from maty leave at the end of January. That's so far away it's never going to happen!

Bicnod, James' sleeping is sounding very promising! I was pleased with last night and it went like this: 10pm, 1.30am, 3.30am, 6am. We still have a long way to go..... Although I think she smiled yesterday (at my friend, and then my other friend ) which melted my heart.

Haven't heard from the fertile one. A few folk have been very quiet recently .

Academic mother of many here, now on antidepressants so a bit coshed chemically.

Despite also having fractured my index finger the other day, I have been pottering around the house decorating the children's rooms and so on, which has been pleasurable and productive, but I am not sure whether staying indoors and barely facing the outside world is healthy tbh. However going out and doing things with three kids in tow seems like too much effort at the moment. I feel shaky just going to the supermarket, although I make a point of trying to appear as normal as possible while I am doing things like this.

I am trying to decide whether to give up work altogether or whether to soldier on. I would not make a very good SAHM really, I think, and I am certainly not prepared to iron my DH's shirts all day long and that sort of thing, but I know I am not happy working long hours for little return and having colleagues being unappreciative and sometimes pretty unpleasant as I do a lot of the grunt work.

It's difficult at the moment.

Now while I am on, I have instructions for BB. PUT YOUR FEET UP AND STOP DOING THINGS! You are far too busy given the twins situation IMO. But then, I suppose you are the woman who tried to give birth in the bathroom aisle of B and Q.