arrived in March, April, May, June and July......the Due in June ladies babies have finally all arived

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The endless cycle of feeding, winding, pooing and crying has finally arrived......and we all couldnt be happier :) The due in June babies have all been promoted to the post natal thread at last

thorny I never considered low iron - how do I check that?

I got mastitis in my left breast yesterday, it surprised me how quickly it came on and developed. Felt pain and engorgement mid afternoon, tried expressing and it offered slight relief but half hour later it was back worse. At about 7 I started shivering and felt really cold. Went emergency Drs and had a pulse of 124 and temperature of 39. Prescribed anti biotics and taking patacetemol and ibuprofen. Feeling a bit better today, I have to keep feeding from that breast to relieve the pressure. It's most pain I've felt other than child birth!

Kane cries when he poohs too, MW said it's normal.

Sorry that you are in such pain Shaz, hope the antibiotics and painkillers will help with it.
I have a question and will be grateful to hear your experience/thoughts: my LO has developed Jaundice when he was 4 days, he is 32 days now and still jaundiced. The hospital said it is linked to the breast milk (he is exclusively breastfed) and that HV kindda of suggested to add formula for a few days before his next blood test. Do I need to worry about his Jaundice, shall I consider what the HV said (really don?t like the idea of introducing the formula now). Your advise will be much appreciated

sona I can understand why you are confused, advice is always conflicting, what exactly is it ff will give him that bf doesn't, maybe another supplement is available, or just one or 2 ff a day mixed with bf would be enough to help?
Shaz owch! well done for keeping going, I have heard it's painful and the last thing you deserve after pregnancy and labour. Make sure you are looked after!
thorny its lovely to have you and your advice back! Impressed you are thinking aout next dc - I am considering a dog for my next one! Either my birth experience was enough to put me off or I'm missing sone happy hormones! or iron - ha ha! :)

Had my works do last night. DD's are 14 weeks old now and have been home for 8weeks so was confident that DH would manage (and he did a great job) and knew that DD'S would be sleeping for most of the time so went out feeling okay. Do was at a hotel in the next town so had arranged a liftwith a colleague-- they said they were happy to take me but I might want to arrange a lift back if I was leaving early. I hadn't planned on leaving particulalry early so said that I'd come back with them- BIG mistake . I'd taken a breast pump incase I got desperate (and one of my friends was staying at the hotel so checked I could use her room) but I'd left it in the car, which we'd unfortunately parked a walk away from the party suite. Thought we'd stay until midnight which would have been 5hours between expressing (the most time I can get away with). It had gone midnight and my lift and the other passenger were still partying away- I started to feel more and more uncomfortable. Didn't feel like I could make too much of a fuss about leaving because I'd already said I wasn't bothered (didn't realise at this point they would be the last to bloody leave ). So I took the car keys and had to use the pump in the car park- all I wanted to do was go home so was sat in the car pumping away and crying to myself . Neither of the people I was travelling with had breast fed so maybe they didn't appreciate the pain (and fear of mastitis/engorement) but still think they could have left a little earlier as most people had gone home anyway. But mainly I was cross with myself for not driving/arranging another lift- it really spoilt my night and also made me feel guilty for trying to party and now feel like I don't want to bother going out again!

Just had a lovely long snooze with DD1 lying on me (I know its frowned upon- but she was saf and DH was in the room)- holding one of my babies on my chest is one of my fav things. Anyway it has cheered me up a little bit.

shaz having had mastitis twice (in the early days) can sympathise with how you feel- hopefully the rotten, unwell feeling will pass quickly even if the breast pain doesn't.

jasmine booked hairdressing appointment to coincide with nap time and got grandma (who is round at mine most days) to watch over the babies whislt I went- my roots were horrendous! Mobile hairdresser is a good idea though. Sorry to hear all your sad baby news.

Hope you get some answers sona I've never heard of switching to FF to get rid of jaundice, not suprised you want to double check it before you make that move. If you do decide to do that then you could express for a few days and resume BF asap. Ciara had a touch of Jandice and had to go under a lamp for a day but still don't really understand what it is.

Thanks to moomin for suggesting giving up tomatoes in order to improve Naomi's wind- it seems to have worked

Welcome to new peeps- lovely that we are still getting new posters 10+ months on

Hi all, just catchin up xxx

Ok caught up...subjects du jour seem to be:
bedroom action...buildg up to it once personal grooming resumes haha, my body feels so weird to me tho, anyone else have this, like feels like not ur own?!
haircuts... Got mine booked nxt week woohoo I look a mess!
expressg...slowly buildg up supply but each stint only manage paltry amount
sleeping bags/temp - I have been puttg Max in them from early weeks, so much easier, I agree with MOSP I think max sleeps better warmer too, is that a worry tho?
PILL got prescription but feel reluctant to start taking it, bizarre!

Routine...still dont have one...max stays downstairs w us until we go to bed and sleeps off and on, on us, dont like to leave him upstairs alone, guess I cud put him down in pram...mmm

Quick one from me, just to say hello to those of you have joined us!

Perrinelli - your dd sounds just like my ds, he is 3.7 and he is lovely with dd, but can be very unlovely rest of the time, temper tantrums and demanding I do things with him when I am feeding dd. He has also been waking up in the night shouting for me or DH. DH has said DS wakes him more than DD, because we are co-sleeping so dd never really gets a chance to cry before I feed her! So I find it hard as I am been woken up by them both!

Jasmine - that is rotten news you have had :(

Sorry just caught up and wanted to say how sad these news , I am really sorry Jasmine.
We are co-sleeping but that means I am awake for most of the night as I am scared of something happening to Junior, he wont sleep in his basket or cot, no matter how much we try.
Curiouselle: it is very confusing indeed, she thinks adding FF for a few days will help as there is a theory that the Jaundice may be linked to the breast milk . I don?t like the idea as I feel I may be jinxing what we have going so far and I don?t want to confuse my LO.
Thanks to Clarkiee and all the mummies welcoming us newbies

Today I realised I can breast feed without pain, Emma didn't cry in the bath and smiled beautifully instead, I had a small wine and antipastos with a meal my husband made me, and I got some perspective about the whole situation - good day really! :)

sona my mw said that breastmilk jaundice can take quite a few weeks to clear up. If your baby is well and feeding, then its body is doing its job of breaking down excess red blood cells, I wouldn't worry about topping up. (And this is from a woman who took her baby to hospital because he was unwell and jaundiced - and even then it was not suggested to give him formula). Also, I co-slept with both my boys until they were 3 weeks old as they wouldn't go in the basket. Like you, I don't actually sleep with a baby in bed with me.

LAbaby I had a second degree tear with DD2 that was stitched up and I am sorry to report that it did open up again when I had DS1 (but he did arrive really fast). I didn't have stitches the second time, and it did leave a little flap that shrank to nothing. When I had DS2 a bit over 6 weeks ago, the flap swelled up but I didn't tear again. Is that in any way helpful?!

Wii Percy's sacral dimple is very deep and hairy round the edges. We were referred for an ultrasound to check that the end of it was sealed and not interacting with his spinal column in any way. Please try not to worry - if you can see the end of it, all well and good. I expect you would have noticed already if it were leaking anything. Our 8 week check is on 3rd August too - get the GP to have a look then, or go back sooner if it will give you peace of mind.

curious Don't be jealous of my seemingly together life. Please remember Percy is almost 7 weeks old. That is much, much more grown up than nearly 3 weeks. (and I've done this all 3 times before). You had a rough time, so it's going to take a while to adjust as you have lots of physical and emotional healing to do. By about 3 months, you should be getting some evenings to yourself and maybe even an occasional long stretch of sleep. (That is not a guaranteed promise, though). One day you'll realise you're doing the mother thing and it is ok. If you can be bothered to read back to when Percy was a few weeks old, I think you will read that I felt really rather crappy. Hang on in there :)

Right, bed calls now. If I do a nappy change and a feed, I could get to sleep until it gets light again (dream, dream, dream)

x-post curious Marvellous news!

It's good to hear that curiouselle, I feel a bit like I'm a bad mother as the feelings I was expecting just didn't come, and I don't have the reason of a bad birth to explain it. But as every day goes on I am getting more and more attached to him.
Oh dear snortpig, that is what I was worried about. But still better than the recovery from a c-section I think, which I was told I was going to have before they realised he was coming out there and then!
Clarklee, sorry about your bad night out. People don't understand if they haven't breastfed, I didn't until three weeks ago!
My little one also likes to fall asleep on my chest, is it really awful to just let him? We both sleep then, but I don't want to put him in any danger. If we have no covers/pillows is it less of a risk? I'm worrying now because after his 3am feed I often let him go to sleep on me, will have to make a real effort to transfer him to the co-sleeper. Is anyone co-sleeping and has any advice on making it safer?

Obv mean it's not good to hear that curiouselle, just reasuring for me that I'm not strange!!

Hi! Can I late join too? Was not on the antenatal thread but was hoping to join you guys here. Molly was born 27/6 and she is our 3rd. We have a dd who is 7 and a ds who is 5. Siblings have been great with her but I think this is due to their ages. We are mixed feeding - by that I mean I give her the breast at every feed and then top up with formula. She dropped nearly 15 pct of her initial weight the first week as I am anaemic so midwife advised this regime and it is working well but does mean it's quite a palaver every feeding time! There is a routine emerging in the chaos - feeds at 7.30, 10.30, 2ish, breast at 5.30 ish then bath, then bottle at 630 ish. Then 10 pm, 130 am, 430am, and then start again! I can't remember when it is they only wake once in the night, I could really do with a 4 or 5 hour stitch of sleep!
My poor ds who is 5 had a bike accident today and split his lip! cue blood everywhere and swollen mouth! Parenting hey!

Page62 - welcome! And your poor DS! I hope his lip heals up quickly.

Lababy - I co-sleep and use a co sleeper. I feed dd sitting up on one side and then lie down to feed her on the other side, so it doesn't matter if we fall asleep (as what happens!) can you try this!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After 8 weeks of good sleeping my girls are having real trouble going back to sleep after the middle of the night feed. Don't know why is it-

Tried feeding them before they wake up properly in the night but when they wake up varies so it doesnt always work.
I love/hate the dummy because after on and off crying for an hour gave in and gave Naomi a dummy which worked imediately but then the evil dummy kept falling out and she cried everytime it did for the next hour.
Maybe they are having too much sleep in the day now and aren't interested in sleeping?
Maybe they are going through a growth spurt and they are getting hungry quickly?

When I pick them up (which I avoid doing) they don't stop crying so I don't think its an attention thing.

It's not usually both of them but because its usually one or the other it probably seems worse than it actually is and maybe I am reading too much into it

motherofsnortpigs thank you for that. After posting I read that it can be genetic & sure enough, DP had one when he was a baby! Lucas' is not hairy, is covered with skin & really doesn't seem to bother him but I will check with the HV on the 25th & with the GP on the 3rd. I'm still it wasn't picked up by the paed at his post-natal check in hospital though, especially as she ticked that she had examined his spine & all was okay.

We have been co-sleeping with Lucas a little - after feeds his wind seems to really bother him & the only way to give him a little bit of relief is to have him propped up on his side by me. I am a very light sleeper but it still worries me a bit! He had been completely refusing Infacol / gripe water / Dentinox but this morning happily glugged some gripe water before letting out a massive burp followed by many tiny burps which seemed to make him feel a lot better! He is still somewhat random with his night feeds, some nights he will go 4hrs between feeds, others (like last night) he wants to feed every 2hrs or less, but I think he is still going through his 6wk growth spurt! He has started to gurgle a bit which is adorable & we're still working on the smile!

Wow, great to see so many new people joining the thread, all are welcome.

Well last night I left Althea for the first time to go to a wedding reception. I was originally going to take her with me but she has had a cold and been a bit needy this week so I thought she would have a terrible time. Cue 5 days of me setting my alarm for 4am to express as for some reason I can get quite a bit of milk out at this time, so i was pretty knackered, and nervous about leaving her alone with dh when she is not feeling so well.

Nothing to fear though as she only had 2 feeds and slept nearly all the evening so it was easy for dh (the little madam, she would never sleep that long for me as she is always craving the booby comfort). The only little blip is I brought my breastpump along with me to express if I got uncomfortable, but I was fine all night, and only started to feel a bit engorged by the time it was time to leave. My friends who had driven me to the do were all pretty knackered and wanting to get going so I didn't want to hold them up by expressing, I thought I would manage fine. But it was nearly an hour and a half drive back and I was so engorged through the journey and I stupidly just kept quiet in a bit of pain because I just wanted to get home as soon as possible.

Luckily as soon as I got in Althea wanted a massive feed which waqs instant relief but it was practically gushing out into her mouth, and I still had to express 4 ounces off after her feed. Sorry you had quite a similar night clarkie but I'm glad I put the effort in to attend the wedding as my friend was so grateful he was nearly in tears.

Thorny can't believe someone was as overdue as me! Congratulations, hard to believe our babies are 6 weeks old already. Hope you are getting on ok.

Anyone with any advice re naps during the day? How much should a 6 week old nap? My DD seems to fight her sleepiness sometimes!

Thorny am also dairy free and on day 2 of shred!

Clarkiee sorry about night out and sleeping going awry. Needless to say after a 7 hour stretch from Rosina on Thursday night we haven't had a repeat performance.

I am happy that my little family is now complete. Those of you whose oh's are contemplating having the snip is that an easy decision for them? Have mentioned it to dh but he's having none of it.

DS is being a complete pain. I know it's just jealousy but finding it very difficult especially as dd needs to be carried so much. Still it's his birthday in a couple of weeks so spoiling him a bit will probably help him feel a bit better.

Just seen this pop up on the active threads and wanted to say a quick hi :)

Bella is 8 1/2 weeks now and its only the last week or so I've started to feel anywhere near "ok". I was a blubbering teary mess, convinced I couldn't do this and seriously considering calling my health visitor after my gp totally skipped over anything emotionally at our 6 week check. Then I realised actually things were ok and maybe I was coping...hang on in there those if you in those difficult early weeks, sleep deprivations a bugger but it does get better.

Sleeping bags, we've been using 1.0 togs for weeks now, I put a long sleeve vest under and our rooms usually around 22/23 degrees. I'd like it cooler but that's with all the windows open, if it gets hotter we swap to a sleeveless vest or nappy only. Bella pulls blankets over het face given any opportunity and despite getting on well with swaddling in hospital decided shortly after that she liked wriggling too much so bags were perfect for us.

Bedroom activity? Tried once and haven't both been awake at the same time in the same room for long enough since thanks to dp's work shifts! I had a 2nd degree tear stitched and all seems fine....if a bit....tighter down there since, sorry probably tmi!!

Never managed to bf, we ended up back in hospital due to a large weight loss caused by not feeding. I was expressing and bottle feeding with formula top ups eventually added in too but by 4 weeks wad finding the constant 3 hourly feed, wind, express, sterilise, feed cycle too much so switched to just ff and was so greatful for the extra sleep! We're now on comfort reduced lactose milk and infacol and have lots of trapped wind and sickyness but we're figuring things out slowly.

Sorry usual ramble from me and no doubt I'll lurk for another month or so before posting again but hope you're all keeping well and looking after yourselves.

With regards to naps I read that sleep encourages more sleep at this age so don't try to get them to nap less. When they get older its a different game but that is children for you.

Hello bananarama was wondering how you've been doing. Glad you're feeling better

Hello to all those who've just joined us and cogratulations on al your babies

mosp so glad Percy is getting on well.

jasmine so sorry that you've had all that bad news all at once Hope you're doing ok

Clarkiee Sorry you had a bad time at the works do. Try to look on it as a learning experience, you'll know better for next time and will have a much better night. No advice on the sleepingam afraid, just very much in awe of you with twins! Can't imagine being woken twice as many times in the night.

RE bedroom action - good lord, I can't even imagine it! "Luckily" it's not something I have to worry about FYI saw the physio last week and she said never try it before 6 weeks postpartum, and if you're breastfeeding to use lubrication. May as well pass on the wisdom!

Was just wondering how much you all get done in a day? DD is 4weeks old now, feel as though I should be doing a lot more but some days I just sit on the sofa all day watching bbc news... [lazy emoticon]