March 2011 Windy bums and a good nights sleep - Will these wonders ever cease?

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welcome to the new thread fellow March Mums!

Now they are all rolling suckin and gearing up for weaning!

Hello superpenguin Thomas sounds like a happy wee man, good luck with TTC no.2, we're putting that off for another few months!!

me we can't afford the whole sit down meal too, and our family and friends all have to travel some distance so its not like we could invite some and not others.
We're not getting married till 4pm, then we're having a buffet at 7pm (although there will be some nibbles when everyone arrives at the hotel after the ceremony, probably fizzy and strawberries or something like that) and then music starts at 8pm and hopefully there will be lots of dancing!!!
Not having seated eating means we cut out all the table arranging / place names, who sits where / flowers and centrepieces / wedding favours all that malarky as well as being expected to put wine on the table it's saving quite a lot of money (and everyone knows we're skint). Food will be stuf that's easy eat without cutlery, and puddings will be little glasses filled with lemon syllabub, choc mousse etc so can eat with a teaspoon. I'm sure there will be tables and chairs free if people feel the need to sit down. Its a lovely hotel and luckily we know the managers so don't have to pay to hire, just for the food.
Then, just because lots of people have come a long way we're doing a bbq at home on the sunday, we've got a HUGE agricultural shed that we often clear out for parties (don't have to tidy the house :D ) and we'll ask everyne to bring a dish / bottle if they can, we'll supply lots too! We were going to get married in the shed at home but we have a 3 mile long dirt track to the house that requires a 4 x4 would have been too much of a faff to organise.

I've been to a few weddings where friends have hired out a village hall or such like, and put on a hot meal of stew and hot bread / stovies / hog roast, something simple that most people like that you can eat easily, you can always put out some tables and chairs but not place names iyswim? Make sit more informal which isn't for everyone. I don't know if you have a big garden, or family has, my sil had a wedding in a marquee in her garden last year and she managed to keep costs right down.

I also bought my dress from Monsoon rather than a bridal shop (although it is very simple and not everyone's taste). My mum is doing the flowers and my mil is doing the cake.

Sorry that was a bit long winded!!! Suddenly realised I'm a hell of a lot more organised than I gave myself credit for!!!!!!
We just wanted a big party really, but its not for everyone I realise that, there are a few corners you can cut to save money though. Do you have any friends that are really good photographers for example?? I asked a friend to do our photos as a wedding gift (obviously we'll pay to have them printed) as she takes beautiful photos, and that's a few hundred quid saved there!!

Phew, sorry to bore everyone!

wow, this thread has been really busy for days, and my super-long boring wedding related post yesterday seems to have scared everyone off......

or maybe its just the weekend and you're all out having fun hope everyone is having a good sunday, loving the new photos on fb by the way!!

highland Your wedding post inspired me. I told DP that I want to get married and he gave me permission to start looking into costs. (I want a small informal do but this might mean not inviting a lot of extended family so I need to price up a couple of options) Not a very romantic way to plan things I know but if it means we get married then I can forgive him.

We had a lovely day out in the sun yesterday, saturday is now our only family day (the price paid for not paying for childcare) so today I plan on doing housework and maybe a short walk down the prom or to the park.

superpenguin Good luck TTC, my heart says now but my head tells me to wait (plus I doubt im ovulating) Let us know how you get on.

Best go, it appears Hannah isn't asleep after all.

Good luck with TTC superpenguin. Very exciting.

Loving all the wedding chat, you're going to have fantastic days. I was at a wedding recently which was just immediate family and best friends and it was one of the best weddings I've been to. Really cosy and fun. I'd highly recommend a small wedding.

Hi All

Sure none of you remember me but I was on the ante-natal and initial post natal thread.
I have 2 DD's. DD1 turned 4 in Oct and DD2 was born on 21st March so coming up to 10 months. My life spiralled a little out of control when she was very little (hubby and I split, etc) and I am finally at a point where I can chat on here again.

Hope all of you are doing ok and those who had your first that you had awesome first Christmases with the little ones.

How are all of the babies doing? Zara is progressing very well but sleeps like a nightmare. Her sister was such a good sleeper. From 8 weeks she slept 7-7am 2 hr morning nap and 2 hr afternoon nap. Zara is total opposite. She cat naps during the day and eve. Not had one night through. Few nights ago she managed to wake at 5am which was amazing. Probably would have slept for longer but I woke thinking that something might have happened as she never sleeps that long.

She eats 3 meals a day. Drink 3 bottles but then also demands bottles at night. She crawled from 6 months already can go up the stairs, and gave her first steps last wee. Is very active during the day so would therefore expect her to be exhausted at night and hasnt worked yet.

Any help please?
Will try and post more regularly. Is their a facebook group or similar. Anyone in Oxfordshire?
Enjoy your Sundays

Morning all! Arthur was yet again up bright and early (5.20am) and won't go back to sleep! Argh..... I'm lucky that me and DH have been taking it in turns to get up with him but we are both exhausted now. Arthur's not though .... I have to remind myself that I am lucky he sleeps til then though really, but anyone got any ideas? Tried feeding him in his room and in my room but no luck. Might try sippy cup and CC instead but not sure if thats really whats needed...

Exciting wedding plans seem to be happening! Me and DH had a very small wedding with a big party in the evening. We went to registry office at lunch time, buffet lunch in my parents garden (prepared by my dad who is bloody amazing at cooking!) and then hired a barn and a big pan/paella company who cooked outdoors in the evening. I made my dress. We were lucky to have a heatwave on that day because we were having lunch in the garden rain or shine! My bf managed to get a 3pm ceremony for her wedding so she managed to cut out the wedding breakfast (I tried to do that too but out registrar only worked until 1pm on a Saturday). Midweek weddings are always cheaper too if thats an option for any of you?

Are babies (and Mummies) starting to get better?

Welcome back to some old names/faces

Welcome back eva yes do remember you

Hoorah we seem to be turning the corner illness wise in our house!! My cold seems to have gone and Cassie is on her 3rd bout of antibiotics and eye drops bless her!! I am taking her to her cranial oestopath in 20 mins to see if she can help with her ears and also a check to see if everything ok with her pelvis and spine... no previous problem but apparently when babies start to crawl and cruise they can favour one side when they sit and turn to crawl and/or stand she justs gently manipulates it all back.... i think!!! I will correct myself after i have been ! This was explained to me 8 months ago so i sould easily have misheard or plain made up .

petty have suggested everything you are doing on fb sorry that A thinks its morning, i guess its whether you feel 5am is a no-no or you can deal with it as to whether you go down the cc route. Me personally, would go down the cc route, as there's not a chance of me starting the day at that time.. but thats because i'm bloody lazy !!

well must go as have to get Cassie up otherwise we'll miss the appt!!!

Haloflo oooh thats exciting re wedding planning!!! Love your fb photo by the way!

Eva welcome back

Petty your wedding sounds fab, and very personal, that the kind of thing I'm after really. Hope A starts sleeping longer for you, I couldn't cope with 5am starts I'm knackered enough as it is!!!

Sam good luck with Cassie's cranial osteo appt, I took Angus a few months ago but he couldn't find much up with him. He seemed quite relaxed and enjoyed it though.....Hope she feels better soon.

Didn't have much to add today just wanted to say hello! Right that's me going to put my feet up with a glass of vino, my friend has lent me the dvd of 'bridesmaids' which is supposed to be v funny but on the cover it looks awful

I love weddings!
we got married on a relatively small budget compared to some at least, but still had the wedding we wanted. for me, I wanted to invite ALL my family and friends, so we had a lot of people, but saved money elsewhere. It's all about prioritising. e.g. for me, i didn't want to spend loads on a dress that I would never wear again, i got mine 2nd-hand off ebay, cost me £75! (and was still beautiful) - it was a monsoon one anyway, would have been £250 new. I would have spent up to £200 i think (still way more than I would spend on a dress normally that wasn't my wedding dress!) but lucky to found it so much cheaper. some people spend £100s and £1000s!
we also got married at 4pm so just had one lot of food at 6.30pm, rather than 2, and there is less waiting around! we had a hot fork buffet, still had table plans and seating but not waitress service, you went and helped yourself. it was half the price but still a proper hot meal.
and got married on a sunday which was cheaper.

anyway good luck with your wedding planning!

Eva I do remember you, nice to hear from you. Sorry to hear things haven't been so good. I don't know what to suggest re. sleeping, I guess all babies are different. I know Thomas sleeps better when he has had a good feed just before bedtime. also we don't rush in straight away if/when he wakes, then sometimes he goes back to sleep by himself after a few minutes (not always!). good luck anyway.

Nice to hear from you eva and superpenguin I haven't started looking at dresses yet as I'm currently on a diet and not sure what size to look for I'd be happy with a 12 but delighted with a 10 (wouldn't we all!) also I'm barely 5ft 2 so will probably need some alterations I'm not sure if there are many petite wedding dresses around will have to see if monsson have a petite range. I'm loving all the wedding suggestions would love to hire a barn am looking into them but ones I've found are too pricey so far.

sam sorry to hear cassie is still on ab's I hope you have some luck with the osteopath.

petty I wish I had advice only sympathy ethan wakes twice during the night then is up for the day about 4:50am every day am beyond exhaused and I'm working and trying to study too so am at the end of my tether. I have bougt the millpond sleep clinic book and am pondering whether to do cc.

hi ladies hope you are all ok.
I took Cassie to the osteopath and apparently her tubes inside her ears were stuck together like glue . She said she wasn't surprised that she woke a lot due to the pain of her ears being backed up with gunk. Cassie was not best pleased at having to be laid down and not allowed to move for 30 mins!!! She got really angry, on the plus side after about 20 mins her nose just began to pour sorry tmi!! But it was amazing to see all this stuff come out, osteopath said that over the next copule of days it will continue to run and she could well be in some discomfort whilst it all drains away. She was ok yesterday but today she has really been suffering and she has been swiping at her ears as if trying to unblock them, hoping that its all clearing up, we have another appt in a copule of weeks and so will see if its healed.

petty have you replaced your Bugaboo hood?? Just wondering as i am interested in getting another colour but am unsure if the 2010 canopy will fit our model?? I think you have the same as me 2007-2009??

Well, OBEM is on and i think i will go up to bed to watch it tonight as i tried to follow the thread on MN but it moves so quickly i can't keep up!!!

Goodnight all xx

Morning all, just a quick check in as was aghast to see that this had dropped off my "I'm on" threads!!!

Things with us are good, we all have colds again which is tedious and had a couple of rough nights with the baby which was a shame as the room sharing started off so nicely. Back on track now though and a great night last night - both settled around 7, then slept through until 6 (baby) and 6.30 (toddler). Not expecting that every night but it's nice that we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Off to a cafe this morning to meet two childless friends for brunch - one of them is due with her first any day, I hope my two don't scare her!!

me we did controlled crying on DS when he was about 10 months old, because after a bout of illness (croup, for which they need caring for all night as it scares them!), he would not sleep back in his cot but also wouldn't settle with us when he was better. After 4 nights he slept through and we haven't looked back. It's not a nice experience but not something I regret; it certainly doesn't seem to have done him any long term damage! You must be absolutely shattered.

sam poor cassie, ear infections are the devils work, had loads with DS :( I hope she gets better soon x

weddings - we had a small one, immediate family only and 2 friends each. Was best day of my life. A few noses out of joint in extended family but I don't regret how we did it - was what we wanted and my dad was so ill with cancer by then that he would not have coped well with a big occasion. My advice is don't let people talk you out of what you want to do!

WOuld have written more but got to get baby up now for this brunch - hope everyone is well (welcome back old faces!!) and take care all xxx

ps - re facebook someone did something clever by making the group public again for a few minutes so someone could join didn't they? Can we do that again for eva?

This morning after A woke at 5am I fed him, put him back in his cot, shut the doors, switched off the monitor and put in some ear plugs. Not sure what A did but I went back to sleep until 7am Hope it works again tomorrow.

Think A is a bit under the weather - he's been in a grump the last few days and his head is feeling a bit hot

In better news I have now completed my breastfeeding peer support training and once my CRB check comes back I can be let loose on the public (well bf groups) - eek!

sam I haven't replaced my hood... yet! Thinking of either yellow or orange or maybe a bespoke one for summer. I don't think the bee+ ones will fit as the hoods do look slightly different. What colour are you going for? Might even try and make one...

sam interested to know if the osteopath worked. Ollie has just had another 2 ear infections and been on antibiotics for 3 weeks after a month of it in October. He is already fiddling with his ears again. Am besides myself with lack of sleep so will try anything.
Might try to get referred to ent specialist
Ps I name changed - was cherub!!!

petty I hope A keeps going back to sleep til 7 or even better sleeps through til 7. Good luck with your peer training, I reckon you'll be really good! Has he more teeth coming or coming down with something? I hope he is ok today anyway.

eva Welcome back. Sorry to hear about your separation. There are quite a few of us with non sleepers. Have you tried the sleep section of MN. I constant lurk there and hope but there are loads of good ideas you could try there. I co sleep to cope but its not exactly ideal for many reasons. If you want to join the fb group I think you might have to add one of us as a friend and then we can add you?

me23 Let me know how you get on if you do CC. I have the millpond sleep clinic book and it makes it look so easy.

News from me. Hannah has started crawling!! Just this morning she did it whilst I was just watching her play and has done if 5/6 times since then. She is a bit wobbly and only goes a couple of metres but I am ridiculously excited. It felt like she was never going to get there.

She was a nightmare to get down for her pm nap but she is asleep now. Not for long though as my family are coming round. Oh dear!

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

stealth sorry to hear Ollie has another ear infection and more antibiotics i know exactly how you feel!! Cassie went to see osteopath on monday and during the appt her knows actually poured out yucky stuff...really weird!! Nothing much then happened for a few days but since fri she has had constant runny nose and been fiddling with her right ear which is the worst out of the two. I am going to ring Lisa (osteopath) in the morning to see if it is because of her session or just another bloody cold!!! Its a bit tricky to tell as she's fine in herself but just got a constant runny nose and pulls at her ear, which is everything Lisa said would happen i just don't know if should have happened sooner IYSWIM!!!
Cassie's follow up is week after next so will let you know what she says!!

petty you are right they don't fit as the older bee has a much bigger hood...which is great IMO!! Thing is they are really difficult to find second hand , i have even been on bugaboo weshop but no luck..i only want black!! But then having said that if you work your magic and make your own guess where i will go to buy mine??? !!!!

Well, we have had a good week hope you all have too, i have just had to take DH uniform and sleeping bag and pillow to him as the stupid dick man forgot to take it with him when he went off on exercise today. Honestly i really do wonder sometimes!!!

Cassie stood all by herself today for about 10 seconds . she was stood next to me whilst we were playing on the floor and she let go of me to look at something in her hand, then realised and lurched towards me!!!
God. i'm not sure i want her walking yet that is another milestone getting further away from her being a baby !!

I have just watched The Midwives and balled at the breech birth??? Really? Its not quite the same as OBEM and yet i still ball!!

( Mutters to herself get a grip!!!)

Well DS is STLL awake despite being in bed since 7.45pm am going to crack the whip otherwise he's going to be vile in the morning!!

Yeah to Hannah on the crawling and to Cassie on the standing! :) I'm still in love with watching Franz crawl (he also just started). SO cute watching their padded bums move back and forth!

I'm sorry about the ear infections, ladies and babies! :( Hope LOs recover soon.

Eva, sending you lots of strength to get through a difficult year. It seems that having a baby can be a huge test on a marriage (not to assume that this is what happened), and it takes a lot of deep breathing on my part to contain myself and keep it together!

Wishing everyone a lovely week with happy and healthy babes!!!

Sam I'm watching call the midwife too and got all emotional. Also can't watch 16 and pregnant on MTV because I bawl EVERY single time! Haven't dared watch OBEM.

Congratulations on the newly mobile babies - I still love watching Arthur crawl, its so cute the way their bums wiggle! A has managed standing on his own for a few seconds, only because he has distracted himself! As soon as he realised though he sits himself on the floor! He has no interest in any of his push along walkers but does use the IKEA Lack coffee table as one instead

Morning sleep is improving (touch wood!). He has been sleeping through til 6 am (don't hate me those of you with night waking babies!) and on a couple of occasions I have managed to get him back to sleep until 7/8-ish, and even managed until 9am yesterday - bliss! He is a lot less shouty about going to bed too so not dreading the bed time routine so much (he pretty much used to scream from the moment I took him out of the bath and tried to put nappy, pjs and sleeping bag on him until he was asleep)

Right off to watch some telly as DH kicking me off the laptop (grrr)

I have phoned the osteopath about Cassie as she is still displaying 2 candles under her nose all the time!! Apparently it can take up to a week from the treatment to start working, so it would seem to be working as all i have done since fri is wipe snot!! Bless her little cottons!! School run approaching so quick cup ot tea before i collect Oscar he has been to Bristol Zoo on a school trip bless, its his first one!! Hooray Holby tonight .

The breech birth on Call The Midwife was fab wasn't it. The book is better, a really fascinating insight.

petty I don't hate you too much! Only joking, i'm glad he is sleeping in again for you.

Poor Cassie, hope her nose clears soon. Very exciting on the standing babies. Do we have any walking yet? Might she be the first?

OBEM in 10 minutes. Does anyone else's DH/P think that they are constantly made to watch baby programmes?

Hey all...
OBEM I love it! Just as addicted to it as I was just before the march babies started arriving last year!!!
Ollie is now motoring around our house. Stair gates are on as he heads off to the stairs to have a look! His brothers are most put out and keep hiding from him so he can't get their toys! I have told them its pay back for all the times they have snatched toys off him!
He is also cruising round furniture now with his wobbly hips making him look like elvis. His brothers were walking by 1 so I don't think it will be long now!
He has his first molar too so it's all going on. Ear infection gone but after then antibiotics he got very constipated and has been crying in pain at night. It's very demoralising as I have had about 4 hours of sleep a night now for about 5 weeks and we are exhausted. Last night o did sleep from 12.30 to 4 am in his bed but after going down at 7.30 we spent from 8.30-12.30 sorting him out and at 4am he came in bed with me and woke crying every 20 mins.
Dr was useless on Monday and just said I should cut out windy foods from my diet as I still bf. I was like "thanks Sherlock ". Like that hadn't crossed my mind. Dh currently in with o now as he settled st 7.30 and already woken twice ..... I think we may have to do cc which I hate but we are just at the end of what we can do without collapsing!!! I look a mess at work!
Anyone else still got such terrible sleep?

So after a terrible night last night and me getting very upset about it all - so tired that I feel I don't have any fun with the kids anymore and DH and I having no time to ourselves, we decided to try CC tonight (or rather DH to do it as I know I can't). We have always done a very light version of CC as I could never leave a child crying for ages and nor could DH.

I BF Ollie, then after letting him have another 10minutes play (he normally falls asleep on teh boob) DH went to settle him and I put the big boys to bed. When Ollie was calm DH put him in his bed, said night night, and left him. After 5 mins of crying he went back, picked him up, calmed him, put him back down and left again. This time 7 minutes of crying. Then repeated again wth 5 minutes crying then Ollie went to sleep. Grand total of 27 minutes and he went to sleep on his own in his bed for the first time! Will see how the rest of the night goes, but the last week or so we have been in every hour....
fingers crossed..... I was expecting it to be much worse!

Hi everyone,

BIG news here... Bethan is now rolling , I know it is ages after everyone else and that most are now crawling/working towards walking, but this is a HUGE step for us and I am over the moon. She doesn't roll loads but can do it from front to back and back to front. She can also sit unaided for about 30secs-1 min this is all just in time for a physio apt next friday!
It is amazing really in the last week or two is suddenly making super progress - she will now put things (toys/biscuits) to her mouth and is happy to hold them herself and is much more aware of what her hands are for lol.

We are still on smooth food, but I tried a small amount of tiny lumps earlier, she didn't look impressed but she didn't gag and wasn't sick so we may be getting somewhere there too.

Eva I remember you too... sorry to hear about your break-up, hope you are doing ok... I am not in Oxfordshire, but in Wiltshire so not too far away... come and join us on facebook.. we sometimes do a Bristol meet-up...if its not too far?

Sam hope Cassie is ok after the Osteopath and that Oscar enjoyed Bristol zoo..... is next Thurs 2nd or Thurs 9th any good for you?
Petty - hope Arthurs sleep has continued to stay on the positive side - are the above dates any good for you? Also Petty Thank-you so much for Bethan's Christmas pressie - her little shoes are so cute!!!
Stealth I hope you have a better night tonight... Bethan is a nightmare nearly every evening and we now don't bother with a bedtime routine... we let her fall asleep downstairs with us and then carry her up when she is in a deep sleep... the only thing that works

Sorry for long post xx

That's fantastic news Purple, can't wait to see Beth's rolling in action! 2nd or 9th is fine for us I think

Excellent news on the rolling purple, that's put a big smile on my face. Go Bethan!

I am sat here trying to figure out how much food I need for I's birthday party. I have no idea how much 20 people can nibble on.