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March 2011 Windy bums and a good nights sleep - Will these wonders ever cease?

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GeekLove · 09/07/2011 21:29

welcome to the new thread fellow March Mums!

Now they are all rolling suckin and gearing up for weaning!

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Cheeseandbiscuits · 06/08/2011 08:05

Oh gosh! Thanks. IS there much for the babies to do?

Purplefan · 06/08/2011 09:36

Hi all,

Lozario Glad your house is ok, that must be a huge relief!

Welcome to coconut

We are also suffering with lack of sleep and the nice routine that was settling in - has now gone!!!Sad Bethan used to go to bed at about 7.30/8 now I am lucky if I can get her up in bed by 9.30pm!! She also wakes up every couple of hours!!! However, it is refreshing to know that I am not the only one going through this. Wink

We seem to be a little behind in the developmental stuff as not had any rolling over here!! She will roll onto her side, but thats about it! She now tolerates and sometimes enjoys tummy time so hopefully won't be too long!! She also now seems alot more interested in her toys and will now grab them and bash them etc..
Bethan now weighs 9lb 14.5 so we are well on our way to doubling that birth weight by 6 months Grin

We have her 1st pediatrician appointment on Thursday at 9.30am - will be interesting to discuss how she is doing!

I am going to take Beth to have her photo taken today for the local papers 'baby of the year' thought it would be worth a shot!!! Might add a link to our FB page or on here when voting starts Grin!!

Enjoy your weekends everyone - hope the sun comes out to play!!

cherub59 · 06/08/2011 10:58

Cheese- yes good for toddlers and there is a baby area too where u can do a trial Gymboree and baby sensory class..... We didn't do too much as takes forever doing anything!!!

Medee · 06/08/2011 19:20

Welcome coconut. We can still get EA down ok but after midnight she is up 3 times.

KPidgeon · 06/08/2011 20:16

Hi Coconut. How old is your LO? When are you going to wean? Will you hang on in there until 6 months?

What about you halo?

My mum and mums with slightly older babies are putting a lot of pressure on me to start weaning now (E is 18 weeks) as he's still feeding every 2 hours at night. I'm surviving though and I figure I've gone this long... I'm working towards 20 weeks and will review things then. Thing is I'm not convinced giving him "solids" or porridge etc will make any difference to his sleep to start with so not sure what to do.

In other news he's now into the 7th day with no pooh! We've gone 6 days before, and he's generally every 4/5 days but this is a personal record! No discomfort though so I'm not worried. Think it's normal for BF babies.

Hope you're all having nice weekends.

Cheeseandbiscuits · 06/08/2011 20:35

Thanks cherub, we do gymboree every Friday but had an extra session. We also did the baby sensory which I don't think we will bother with as I found the lady a bit tiresome! Was fun, but will be better next year when Izzy is older. Izzy must have enjoyed it as she went to bed at 7pm without a fight and is still sleeping now.

purple let us know when voting starts. I bet it will be nice to see a paediatrician to get those niggling questions answered. I wouldn't worry about rolling, its so variable baby to baby.

coconut Hi! How was returning to work?

JoJoB77 · 07/08/2011 07:32

Morning ladies!

I dont get chance to get on here these days but just had a big catch up, you lot do talk! Me & DH had a night out last night and R stayed at her nanny & grandads. Missing her loads, I feel like I've lost my right arm.

R is almost 18 weeks and is doing brilliantly. We have a great routine and I'm managing to get her down after her last feed around 7ish and then won't feed again until 6am next morning. She does wake a few times during the night, not hungry tho so I'm hoping she will grow out of that.

I'm not weaning yet, she's one of the youngest on here and she's not showing signs other than staring at my while eating, but she's still got the tongue reflex thingy so I'm happy to wait.

I'm not sure if she's teething tho as she's constantly got her fingers and sometimes her whole hand in her mouth biting on it, and she's also had a few meltdowns where nothing will pacify her. Had to give her calpol to calm her down. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Sorry to not personally namecheck, but hope you are all well and will pop back in as soon as I can.

Enjoy the sun! (if you have it....)

Jo xx

cherub59 · 07/08/2011 09:30

kpidgeon don't let anyone pressure you into weaning if you aren't ready! I'm not sure I buy into the whole weaning will improve their sleep argument. O is ebf, 5 months next week, weighs 19.5 pounds (so a chunky monkey) and has gone back to just one wakening or two if I am unlucky between 7.30-6/7am. I think it's activity/development(growth spurt or developmental change) that makes the difference.
Having said that I am looking forward to weaning him as i find it quite good fun!
Have given up on trying bottles of breastmilk as it was definitely that making him chew me so I might just try cups when I start getting him on to food with cooled boiled water.

cheese I'm with you on the baby sensory lady. Wasn't a patch on monkey music/Gymboree... Are you west London? I used to do Gymboree on queens gate/Baden power house. Currently doing monkey music.

me23 · 07/08/2011 11:48

Hello everyone,
Have had an awful time sleep wise E just doesn't want to sleep anymore, he woke up at 4am Friday and wouldnt go back to sleep so was up until 1pm without any sleep. Then last night he went down at 8:30 and woke at 12;45 could not get him go go back to sleep he was side awke dp ended up taking him out in the car at 1:30am luckily that worked so he then slept from 2-6. Thing is I can cope with him getting up having a sleepy feed then going straight to sleep, but he isn't even hungry now just wide awake and wanting to play!

Re weaning we haven't started yet E is 20 weeks, have been wondering if he is now ready? It is hard to know what to do as although the current advice is 6 months the results of the EAT study may change that. I guess as long as none of the allergenic foods aren't given before 6 months then fruit and veg wontdo any harm.

Has Ny one bought a Highchair I don't know which one to get have heard good things about the ikeA one but it looks very uncomfy for. A baby.

haloflo · 07/08/2011 12:14

jojo nice to see. Glad things are going well. I hope your night out was good. Smile

kpidgeon I'm not weaning yet. Hannah is 18 weeks too (born 29th march). There are no signs she is ready, it might not help her and could even make things worse if food doesnt agree with her. That's my opinion though, it's completely up to you and no one else's business. My mum seems to think I should wean sooner rather than later but so far is happy leave me be. Let me know what you decide (particually if it helps sleep!)

me23 Hannah often wants to play in the night so I've decided to wear earplugs. I'm not a terrible mum (well i hope not!) I still hear her if she wants me but its stopped me turning round at every movement and means if she is happy but awake I can sleep. Last night we had bed at half 7, wake ups at half 9, 11, 2 and 4.30 & then awake at 6.30 for the day. Not great but better than some nights. I've not got a highchair yet either.

Hope all are well. The football season started yesterday so I've a fun filled afternoon entertaining hannah whilst dp and his friends watch the charity shield, boo.

Cheeseandbiscuits · 07/08/2011 13:52

cherub yep we are chiswick/ravenscourt park. We do chiswick gymboree and it's so fab. Worth every penny. We should meet up.

jojo jealous of your night out, hope you enjoyed.

About weaning; I reckon the babies tell you when they are good and ready!

Cheeseandbiscuits · 07/08/2011 13:53

halo I think earplugs are a great ideaSmile.

Cheeseandbiscuits · 07/08/2011 13:55

Sorry on phone and keep reading wrong button. me we have got the cossato noodle - got in John Lewis sale for half price. It's great, the only down is that is has fabric straps and I can't work out how to get them off to wash them. Otherwise fab. My mum has bought a good one too from kiddicare, I think it's their own brand one.

Muser · 07/08/2011 18:08

KPidgeon what everyone else said about weaning, don't let other people rush you into it. The babies really do let you know when they're ready. Once she's grabbing food off your plate that's a pretty good sign!

And if it helps, someone I know with a waking 5 month old has weaned and tried a formula feed before bed and it hasn't made a jot of difference. I think the babies come through when they're ready.

We are continuing with baby led weaning. Broccoli has proved very popular. She's not eating much yet, but good sucking and a lot of fun. And I can't remember if I said already, but her bottom front teeth are coming through. Very sharp!

cherub59 · 07/08/2011 19:48

me we have a mamas and papas high chair which has been really good as it has a padded cover (plastic) that you can wipe down, and it can be reclined (so if they fall asleep with their face in their food - which does happen) you can just recline it back and let them sleep!).

However, we also have two tripp trapp chairs (bought online from kiddicare) which you can get a baby seat for, which are fab as they become little chairs which you can adjust seat and footrest height as they grow. my toddlers love them.

Only bit of advice I would give on highchairs is don't make my mistake and buy pretty little cotton covers/cushions etc for highchairs as you will have to wash it pretty much every day once they are weaning. if you do want padding or something pretty, go for plastic!!!!!! it wipes down! And if you have to put the chair on a carpet, put a plastic sheet under the chair!!!! it'll be like a war zone!

cherub59 · 07/08/2011 19:48

oh and cheese would love to meet up...we are really close as I am on high st ken!

pettyprudence · 07/08/2011 20:58

I dont want to jinx things but I think sleep might be improving with A, for the past 2 nights he has slept 8pm-3am-5am-7/8am-ish - almost back to his old sleeping habits. His naps today though have been a bit crap.

Re: weaning Arthur is keen to put EVERYTHING in his mouth but I don't think it has anything to do with food. He is one if the youngest here too (30 March so only 18.4 weeks), however HV told me that the new weaning study was showing that earlier weaning (ie 17ish weeks) was showing to lead to less allergies/intolerances etc... and that the final results would be published next year but she said to wait until 6 months. We have the IKEA Antilop (sp?) highchair already which we use a bit for playtime in the kitchen when I am cooking. I have covered the plastic insert with fabric to make it nicer but thats on the basis that by the time I actually give him food he wont need the insert anyway.

Talking of weaning, I spent some time with twin 1year olds yesterday. I don't know if i need to loosen my judgey pants, but neither of them appear yet to eat anything "solid" - their food is still blended to liquid (not even lumps). There is no medical reason for this (and both babies have lots of teeth, not that they are needed as BLW-ers know!) - is this normal? Also they weren't allowed to touch their food (ok I haven't cleaned up a weaning baby yet!)? Hmmm think I am feeling a tad judgey but maybe because my friend was clearly so uncomfortable with me bf-ing and kept sending me to another room with the pretence of my comfort (I dont know why as she did consider bf-ing herself but chose not to, oh and she's not remotely prudish!). I gave up assuring her I was comfortable in all senses feeding anywhere, nodded, smiled and thanked her for putting me in a room on my own. [sigh]

Arthur rolled front to back twice today Grin. Over the last couple of weeks he has turned into a different, much much happier baby and is genuinely a delight to spend all day with (I was already enjoying being a SAHM, despite it being v. hard, but its doubly enjoyable now). I dont think he enjoyed being a newborn much and is much happier in himself as he gets older.

Signing off from my mammoth post now Blush, love to everyone, new and old Grin

Coconutmummy · 07/08/2011 21:16

Hello again,
Thanks Ladies, going back to work was easy to start with, hubby works from home and I have live-in help, however, baby would not take bottle so had to take her and sitter to work first 6 weeks it was Very stressful, although grateful to have ha the option. She grudgingly takes bottle now p, although nit from me. I still breastfeed during lunch. I use formula now, introduced in the last 4 weeks. Honestly could not get myself organised to express.
I have a 3 .9 old girl so now the summer holidays are here and she is off play school it's been exceedingly exhausting. My 5 month old, who until recently was sleeping well, has started waking up 2-3 times a night. I barely have time to breathe it seems now. I have finally asked to cut down my days in work from 4 to 3. I am truly exhausted. I can't catch up with anything, especially reading which I miss a lot. I hope they agree. I asked last Friday. Sorry to ramble. Just read over this, I sound like a moaning mini so will stop. Have not started weaning yet. She will be 5 months on Monday although she is showing interests I may start creamed rice this week.

Coconutmummy · 07/08/2011 21:18

Do pardon, my spelling errors. I am literate usually when I get some sleep:)

Cheeseandbiscuits · 07/08/2011 21:29

Oh cherub we are close! I will try and work out who you are on the FB group and vice versa and maybe we can organise something.

I have worked out how to get the straps off my highchair and its dead easy. So now I can safely say I love my highchair!

petty glad things have settled now, it does get easier doesn;t it? Phew...!

I agree with muser. Good firends of ours were very smug with thier first baby. They did Gina Ford and she slept through the night from 8 weeks. The tried everything with their second and she is now only sleeping through at 8 months. So I think each baby is very different.

pettyprudence · 08/08/2011 08:39

Arthur slept 7.30pm-4.15am-7.15am last night! I have never been so excited in my life (although not daft enough to get my hopes up that this is how it will be now!). I still woke up at 1.30am though, and when Arthur did wake at 4.15am my body hadn't had such a big chunk of sleep in so long that I thought it was time to get up and play and took over an hour to get back to sleep. Not grumbling though.

Off to meet some friends today and I will be braving the buses again - 2 buses each way. Worth it though!

Lozario · 08/08/2011 09:00

Morning all,

Just put Lara down for a sleep and DS is in front of Bananas in Pyjamas so I have a second to catch up.

Am so stressed out at the moment, it seems Lara is on a full-on nursing strike. She just doesn't want to feed, even when she's starving! I've had to rock her in a darkened, quiet room just to get some in to her. It's messing up her sleep too - normally she only wakes once overnight for a feed but it's been twice for a couple of nights now. It's so upsetting to put her to the boob and have her just squirm and cry :(

petty Good news on the sleep front! Go Arthur! With the buses do you pram it or sling it? Have a good day. Oh and re: the solids for one year olds - that IS weird! And not good for their speech development too - apparently the different textures of lumpy foods help with that. (Not sure why!)

coconut It's so hard with an older one running around too isn't it. (Thank god for telly!) We're doing lots of playdates with the other kids from playgroup so they have some variety and don't forget who each other are in September!

Muser The baby led weaning sounds fun. I'm going to do a bit of that I think, did a mix with DS too. I think it helps with the textures stuff, getting them used to different textures in their mouths.

OK Bananas has finished so I better go! Have good days all x

Jupiter118 · 08/08/2011 09:42

Morning all - DS at nursery and E napping so time for a quick post...

petty fab news on the sleeping - yeah!!! Re: your judgey pants (love this expression btw) I also think it is weird - sure you need to include textures from 7 months or something (quite quickly after starting food anyhow) otherwise they get more fussy than they will already be anyway (iyswim). DS also wanted to feed himself from about 11 months - hideously messy, but did mean that he ate something.

lozario sorry to hear you are stressed - Bach rescue remedy is good stuff if you don't already have some - alternative, but actually very calming (I am a sceptic - spelling?) The feeding strike sounds bad - we are on bottle not boob but E has been v fussy with feeding the last few days sometimes just screaming and writhing. Is it the age (E is 22nd March)? Or just another phase in the endless series of phases that children have??

cheese glad not just me with 'hair' issues. I don't think we have Gymboree in the provinces (not heard of it anyway) - we have Rhythm Time which I quite enjoyed with DS and might do with E in the Autumn. Missing Buggyfit at the moment as it has stopped for the summer.

purple I wouldn't worry about the rolling and enjoy that you can walk into the kitchen to get something and know she is still where you left her. She is doing fab on the weight gain - hurrah.

coconut hats off to you re: work and having two. I am in awe.

jojo nice to see you and the night out sounds great.

kpidgeon I'm with others don't get pressured into weaning - do what is right for you.

muser mmmm broccoli - sounds as if the weaning is going well.

halo good for you re: earplugs

cherub - so the tripp trapp - worth it or not compared to similar, but cheaper brands? We had a wood chair and table for DS which was great if he was eating in the living room or something, but hopeless if you stacked it together and tried to get it near the dining table. We binned it recently as it was grim (food wedged in impossible to reach places). We want something this time that goes up to the table - am quite tempted by a cafe style one (like they have in pizza express and other eating establishments), a baby dan wood one or a tripp trapp.

buses I have bussed with the quinny buzz a few times in Brum, but when I do I tend to go on a particular bus which is always quite quiet in the day (also means less weirdos trying to touch/breathe on your baby!). Is ok though and have done it with DS in tow as well, which was a bit nerve wracking, but he is 4 so reasonably trustworthy to follow instructions (aka me barking at him) Grin Grin.

Right best get dressed before E wakes and then we are off to baby yoga.

I was thinking about tooimmature and spilt over the weekend if they are lurking. Hope you are both doing ok you are often in my thoughts.

I think spilts due date is coming up so wishing her all the luck in the world.

Oooh have written loads - didn't mean to. Sorry.

x

edeluna · 08/08/2011 10:30

OMG, after a serious bedtime meltdown last night, Sabine slept from around 8pm until 5am, then from a little before 6 to almost 8:30 this morning! AND she just went down for a nap!

I'm feeling almost human again right now!!! petty glad to hear you and Arthur got a bit more sleep, too.

KPidgeon · 08/08/2011 16:49

I'm afraid I am weaning. Part of me really wanted to wait, as they suggest. But I went with my instincts and gave him a little bit of pureed soup (made by my turkish friend- no salt but lentils, leeks, carrots) and he loved it. He ate a whole little bowl full! Lapped it up. So today I made him pureed pear with baby porridge (mixed with my breast milk) and he ate the whole thing up again. Tomorrow he's having carrot.

We've got a highchair- mothercare little teds one- very comfy. But I've been feeding with him sat on my lap as I wanted him to feel safe.

I've been in two minds about weaning but have decided to fully go for it and E seems happy about that decision.

Halo- I'll let you know if it makes a jolt of difference to the sleeping! I suspect not!

Also halo I've been wearing earplugs since E was born! At first because he and my husband snored, now E doesn't anymore but I'm used to them and I still wake each time he shouts out/cried for a feed.

My hair is also falling out big time- helped along by little hands clutching at it and giving it a big yank!