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fraktious · 23/06/2011 13:07

So we don't scare the viroids on the antenatal thread with horror stories of no sleep, chomped boobs and endless laundry or make them envious with tales of cuteness....

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Eskarina · 26/02/2012 07:32

Ahh. 3am meltdowns, how I've missed you.....NOT! Dd was up for an hour and wouldn't settle without bf. We were trying to train her out of that one this weekend, but clearly she's not ready for tha yet.

Yaaawwn!

CuriosityCola · 26/02/2012 14:16

Esk, I'm in awe of your attempt at sleep training. I'm still trying to sort out ds only feeding at night. Have put a very rambled message on reverse cycling on the feeding topic. All my usual websites say it is normal for mum's that are away from baby during the day and to ride it out. Sad

CuriosityCola · 26/02/2012 14:17

Please ignore the pesky comma. Blush

Eskarina · 26/02/2012 19:22

Nothing to be in awe of really, especially as its failed a bit spectacularly this time. Though DH did remind me that 3 weeks ago we were up every 1-2 hours each night, now it's once or twice a night. Interestingly to doesn't matter if she has a dream feed or not, she still wakes.

Happy half-year birthday to your DS today!

vallinnapod · 26/02/2012 20:48

Nawh! Half-birthdays Grin. Does my DS get one if there aren't 31 days in February?!

Sorry about the sleep. I managed not to feed DS on Friday night due to excessive, unplanned alcohol consumption but because he is cutting at least one tooth I didn't want to persist as I thought (and do believe) he needed the comfort.

Nickel I remember when DS as a few weeks old and I cracked his head on a table in Starbucks. I was distraught but he was fine once he found the boob he had been thrashing for! Horrible feeling but they are resilient.

cowboylover · 26/02/2012 22:42

Aww Nickel, sure she will forget if she has not already. DD has a very boxer eek shinney bump on her cheekbone where she sit herself with the remote control. MIL said I should be more careful and she nearly a matching one but DH changed the subject quickly!!

vallinnapod · 27/02/2012 10:48

Oh cowboy DS has a black eye from whacking it with his monkey phone (a gift from a friend from M&S...best toy ever) and the gave me a bruise on my cheek and one on my collar bone from the Wagamama spoon he appropriated....

nickelhasababy · 27/02/2012 11:05

we decided to use dd's baptism as her half-birthday - only because of her birthday being in december - it's only fair cos both parents have may birthdays.

it makes us look like religious nuts, but we won't do anything major, just a gift maybe.

takethatlady · 28/02/2012 13:49

Hi ladies. esk how's the sleep training going? And val? We decided to go down the sleep training route as commuting 120 miles three days a week and working on weekends/eves and getting no sleep was killing me.

We started on Friday. It was supposed to be the pick-up put-down method, but really we stand over the cot and just put our hands on her while she settles herself (sometimes this means her crawling about and rolling and flipping everywhere for ages!) and only pick her up if she's really properly crying. Once she's down we only go in if she's really crying and not just whimpering or moaning, and we pick her up and say 'time for bed Isobel, [kiss], night night' and put her back, and then stand with our hands on her tummy/back again. Sometimes i just leave her there if she's not upset. I don't make any eye contact.

On Friday it only took twenty minutes and she settled herself to sleep. She woke about 5 times in the night (pretty good for her!) and each time settled down to sleep after 15-20 minutes. Not much crying. Pretty pleased.

On Saturday it took about five minutes and she settled to sleep. She woke numerous times but settled quickly (again, with our help, but no rocking or breastfeeding). Then at 3am she went mental until 5am and I couldn't soothe her by picking her up. She finally went to sleep for about half an hour and then woke again, by which point I was crying too.

On Sunday she fell asleep after about five minutes with my help, woke a couple of times in the night but easily re-settled. Then at 3 she seemed mental again, so I gave in and fed her. She fed and I put her back in the cot, still awake, and went back to bed. We heard her start to cry but waited a minute and she fell asleep completely unaided for the first time ever. So we decided she'd get a 3am feed but no other feeds at night.

Last night she took a while to settle but dropped off at 8. She woke up at 4.30am. THAT MEANS EIGHT AND A HALF HOURS' SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!! I fed her and she went to sleep again, totally unaided, until 7.

I am now praying that this means the start of better things, and totally weirded out by having had six hours of sleep without interruption. Sleep training rules!

Seriously, though, we couldn't have done it before now. I think before 6 months she still had irregular feeding and sleeping patterns and needed me in the night, and then she was settling into nursery and getting colds and bugs, and it's only the last couple of weeks or so that she has been well and able to go through the night without a few feeds. But it really feels as if she's ready. Rocking and breastfeeding weren't working anymore anyway.

Interested to hear other people's progress and tricks!

vallinnapod · 28/02/2012 14:08

Yep, I found it a complete god send. Like you I couldn't have started at any other time than when we did - if that makes sense. All three of us were just ready.

We started leaving him for 5 mins then picking him up, leaving him for 5 etc. Did this for 3 days. Worked to a degree but then we went on to leave for a minute, go in and stroke his head, kiss him, hand on tummy, tell him I love him and then out. Then 2 mins, then 3. This was our break through. He still some times wakes at that annoying 30 mins after going down but now he tends to take less than a minute to settle again. Still tends to wake twice in the night but I have pretty much zero milk now so I am hoping he will realise it is futile from a food point of view. I enjoy our little snuggles though, Blush

I have been less strict over the last few nights as one tooth has cut through and I assume it's neighbour is on its way so when he has woken and sounded upset I have taken him into our room for a cuddle until he has slept. Only had to do this twice though.

He is also napping way better during the day, in his cot, which is huge for us.

He is at a really frustrating stage (for him!) he is desperate to sit. Jumperoo is fun but he wants to sit on the floor and play with his toys. I spend the whole time rearranging cushions around him and rescuing him from capsizing. He is just moments away and can manage a few seconds (way more if he is on my lap. He likes his highchair but it is a baby dan one so if I try and amuse him in there I have to keep picking toys up!

vallinnapod · 28/02/2012 20:48

Errr, ladies....my boobs have gone :( Milk is virtually not there and size-wise...well, probably the same as pre-pregnancy as I am wearing a pretty bra that doesn't have inch thick straps and matches my knickers. This is of course a plus.

Downside is I feel physically sick at no more feeding snuggles. I know it sounds massively melodramatic but there we are. Also it makes my stomach look big Blush big boobs stop the pokey out tummy....

BamBam21 · 29/02/2012 07:47

Hi everyone. Can I just sidle in here please?

DS2 is 2wks old today, and it's DP's first day back at work, so I'm feeling a bit fragile. DS2 has colic, and we've had so little sleep since he was born. I had 3hrs last night, which is about normal just now. I really hope things improve soon. Really glad things are going well for those of you doing sleep training.Smile I honestly can't remember being this tired with DS1 (although he didn't have colic) but I suppose I have baby-brain amnesia, and also this time around I have to be up and about to get DS1 to school!

Smile
FeijoaVodkaPlease · 29/02/2012 10:29

Hi BamBam and welcome to wee DS2!

BamBam21 · 29/02/2012 10:39

Hi feijoa.Smile Poor baby with chickenpox! Hope it's not too bad.

DS2 is still crashed out here. He didn't really touch his bottle earlier, so I will have to wake him up soon. Grr! I know I should try to grab sleep while he does, but I feel so rubbish if I sleep in the day, it's just not worth it. Wish he would sleep this long at night time though!

nickelhasababy · 29/02/2012 11:11

:( vallinna

One advantage is that you know that when you get cuddles, they're real cuddles, not "give me milk now!" cuddles.

Hello Bam ! Grin welcome to the post-grads! I remember that - much as I'd like to forget! the feeling that there is no end to the knackeredness!
Sorry about the colic. hope it gets better. (i hear propping up the head end of the cot works a bit)

I am happy to report that I noticed yesterday that my pubes are back to normal Grin (and now it seems TMI talking about my body, when a couple of months ago, it was the world and his wife's business Hmm ) Nice not to have hairs dangling by my knees...
On a less gross note, I also realised in the evening that I hadn't noticed my underarm hairs since who knows when? Had a look this morning, and they're barely there.
Confused
and my head hair is now back to greasy normal. every 3 days having to wash it, when do I get the time to do that??

vallinnapod · 29/02/2012 15:15

Hey Bam - I hope the colic passes soon. We were luck enough not to have it but several of my NCT group did and it just seems like a nightmare

FVP - argh chickenpox! Have both of yours got it? I am wondering when it is 'best' for DS to try and catch it. I hope we can hang off until he is done with nappies. That must be so hard for the poor little poppets! One NCT baby had it before Christmas (around 3 months old) and my niece had it at about 9 months. My brother on the other hand got it at 25 and thought he was genuinely going to die!

Thanks Nickel I am getting one tiddly feed in a day, normally middle of the night and sometimes first thing. The first thing one I don't think is enough so I offer him a bottle about 30 mins later. I am clearly producing more than I think as he never drinks more than half, still really miss it. I think I said it before but apparently the hormone changes make you really broody...I am ready to pounce on any newborn and DH Grin

vallinnapod · 29/02/2012 15:16

Forgot to say Nickel - just wait for the hair shedding :( Having lost loads between 3 and 6 months pregnant I thought I might escape but nope, when DS turned around 3.5 months it all started again. Very thin now and odd looking as the bits that are growing back from the first time around are sticking out Grin

nickelhasababy · 29/02/2012 15:21

I didn't grow any extra hair really. I have been losing hair again - oh, maybe that's it - I didn't lose any during the PG, but it's back to normal loss now.

FeijoaVodkaPlease · 01/03/2012 11:02

Val DS had it 2 weeks before DD. He got it at nursery and then passed it to her. His was mild, hers really bad Sad The nappy has been quite helpful actually as it meant she couldn't scratch down there. Thankfully she's o the mend now and sleeping normally again (hurrah I nearly feel human again). Just waiting for her to start teething again!

nickelhasababy · 01/03/2012 12:12

how much puke is too much?
this child pukes about 10-15 mins after a feed, but she doesn't burp very often (at least, i can't make her)
is she just taking more than she can digest? or is she puking?

FeijoaVodkaPlease · 01/03/2012 15:40

How much is she puking up? W~ind can make them puke, but then some babies are just puky.

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FeijoaVodkaPlease · 01/03/2012 15:44
St Davids
Eskarina · 01/03/2012 19:37

As FVP says, some babies do just posset quite a bit. Does she seem to be in any pain or discomfort? If not perhaps you just have a sicky one.

I have a meeting at work tomorrow that I'm really dreading. I'm getting myself into a state about it already. Problem is I really don't know why I'm dreading it all so much. I've already decided that I want to look for another job, so I shouldn't care so much about this one. Of course getting another isn't guaranteed, so I need to work out something that suits me and the current school just in case.

Feel sick just at the thought of going in. Sad

BamBam21 · 02/03/2012 08:25

Hope your DD is fully recovered from the chickenpox feijoa. It must have been horrible for her (and you!).

Step away from the babies vallinna!Grin It's actually reassuring to hear someone is feeling broody. It gives me hope that life might actually resume again at some point! I had a real wobble at 4.30 this morning, half asleep, baby crying again, where I started to think that DP and I have made an enormous mistake and we will never have a life again. I'm okay now, but all I want is to snuggle in to DP and have a wee sleep together, and just have some time. Baby is now 16 days old, and there just isn't any structure to the days or nights, and it's driving me a bit mad. My mum has had DS1 the past couple of nights, which is a big help, but I miss him too. Can anyone offer any reassurance that things will be better very soon please?

nickelhasababy · 02/03/2012 11:11

i don't know how much in relation to how much she's taking in.
she mithers a bit, then pukes.
maybe it's just a liquid burp...

hope your meeting goes well esk