Feb 2011 - The one where they all start sleeping through the night! (We hope)

[WanderingSheep]

Was hoping a positive title might bring us some good luck

Hi all, not much time to catch up as its been a stressful day (visiting family so H has had NO naps and is an overtired nightmare!).

ledkr deffo get yourself to the docs for a chat. Im sure that at the wedding NOBODY will be thinking badly of you, you just need to feel confident in yourself. Oh, and maybe get some good underwear and a nice well fitting outfit.

jane so sorry your df is having a hard time, but I am sure its completely normal and you are so lucky to have each other.

Me and my dh have been arguing lots recently. He seems not to see what needs doing and then says Im 'nagging' when I ask him to do something. he also always complains about being tired despite never seeing to H in the night. I even said that I might sleep on the couch tonight as he is off tomorrow and he could sort out H tonight so I could actually have an undisturbed night sleep.....and he laughed!!!!!! So annoying!!!!!

suzy-do it. Maybe he'll laugh a little less
Thanks everyone for being nice,i am defo depressed,did the assessmnet tool and it was high.I have just had a good chat with dh who tried to be nice but seems unmovable about it all and then stayed glued to the pc.
The thing with my weight is that i lost loads with my divorce and having been big for a while finally had this lovely figure and now im back to square one.I love fashion especially vintage and always got compliments on how i dressed but now im wearing size 16 frumpy stuff,its like you cant be who you really are.I have jsut told him i will not be attending the wedding if i feel this shit as they have invited new parents to a child free wedding and if i was bf we wouldnt be able to go so sod it,he can go without me.
jane sorry you are feeling helpless re df it must be so hard for you both but these anniversary's are aways hard the first time around just be there for him,
reastie hows bedtime been? The characters were silent in both paris and florida.
ponyo Half an hr in the garden in pram or arms or little chair does the trick.I have also used her little activity ring and sat her by the patio doors,havent done it tonight cos she seems to be out of the 5am habit but she seems to have been going till 7ish but she had an earlier bed tonight so ill see.
suzy am having a spray tan and will attempt some nice clothes and im brilliant with make up so am going for the false lashes etc but if im still not happy im not going.
Am trying reasties plan,have a ww meal for every night and lots of lovely veg and will eat cereal and soup in the day,will see how that goes plus shredding,even a few pounds can make your tummy look better.

ledkr Sorry to read you're feeling pants. I'm hovering around a size 14/16 too when previously I was a 12/14. I lost a bit with WW but seem to have stalled. I'm planning a really healthy week this week - fruit and veg only in daytime and then just protein with veg in te evening. No wedding at the weekend for me but I do have to go and sort my bridesmaid dress out in Manchester...it a size 14 so I really hope it fits!

Suzy it seems the time for arguments at the mo. Do you think it's cos we're all managing so wonderfully that our DP's are raking us for granted? Like they don't realise we're tired and run down because we're coping well on the surface? My DP is fab though, so I can't really complain!

Reastie Think the characters are supposed to be silent but the last time I went to Disney in Paris it was for a hen do and we got followed round and chatted up by lots of the male characters.

Jane Hugs to you and DP today. You are both doing so well, you're a real inspiration when I feel like I'm struggling.

Balls, was going to respond properly to everyone but can't see any further back as am on phone and will lose what I've typed. Hope all the babies sleep well, think I'm going to head to the spare room soon as I have a dreadful cough and think I'm waking R up. Boo.

ah thanks choc for being honest,i tend to think 16 is the end of the world but its not really is it? Am reading up on the symptoms of pms and am convinced its what i have,i have all the symptoms even the food cravings.
Am going to the quack this week as cant go on like this,am on day 3 of period and im already feeling calmer and more rational.Im going to ask for prozac cos thats what all th sites were reccommending.
Hope babies sleep well tonight

ledkr im glad you talked things through with DH, it just helps to get things of your chest. Regarding the weight issue, i am a size 18 and feel horrible, i hate my huge tummy. i have been doing the slimming world plan and i have not even lost one measley ounce! I have been shredding and going for long walks in the morning. No idea where i am going wrong. I am going to look for wedding dress next wed and i am dreading it and the judgey looks and comments from the staff.

I hope all the babies slept well last night.

reastie at your cousins stalker! im sorry but i laughed at the thought of you hiding from the computer incase we were stalkers! Hope A settled well last night.

ledkr I think (imo) the frustrating thing re: weight/situation is that it won't happen overnight and will be a long hard slog. I find I sort of want things to change so badly but because I know it will take so long, I don't know, it just sort of makes it worse. I saw your thread btw - do you feel like this at all in the other weeks in your cycle or is it just that it's always there but worse alongside pmt? I hope your gp can sort you out. fwiw I think my dh tries to understand but really has absolutely no idea. we had a chat the other night but now he seems to have completely forgotten it.

Last night another shocker. Don't know what's up with her. Keep telling myself maybe it's this 4 month sleep regression thing. does anyone know if it lasts for a whole month?

Got a hosp apt this morning and baby massage lunctime and it's going to have to be a military manouvre to get alice fed and out and happy for them. Would have been nothing to go to them pre preg but making sure she's all sorted and lugging her stuff about etc etc takes so much planning and effort (sure fellow control freak delia will understand )

jane a size 18 is nothing (says she who went to buy some jeans last week to cheer herself up only to come out in tears that the size 20 were on the tight side) - they won't think twice in the shop, you'll look stunning. I know this sounds a bit odd but I do think hormones can stop you losing weight (reasties crazy logic). Compeltely different situation I know but after my mc my hormones made me really really bloated for ages and I struggled to lose any weight, they also made me ravenously hungry . erm, I'm not really helping you in any way there am i - just trying to say keep going on it - it is making a difference . I found when I lost a few stone before the first bit was the hardest, once I felt fitter it spurred me on to do more and more. I'm just stuck at this first bit now. btw yes - I'm avoiding you all incase you stalker me - you might come at me from the computer screen

well morning all,thanks for your honesty re size,its put things in some perspective. I think the pmt is more likely than pnd cos yes its only the 2 weeks before my period and its awafull,i had it in paris and my tummy was so bloated and i crave cake and starchy food which doesnt help with the weight.I looked on net last night and i have all the symptoms,gp apointment a priority today.
Dilly slept well but was stirring at 4.30 and awake at 5,40.Dh and i actually dared to stay up to watch his new Luther box set till 12 so i am so tired now.I got up cos dh has work but im going to be dead on my feet today.My bedroom was really light this morning have to sort out better blackout blinds today.I will be doing daylight before bed,blackout and an early night.Wanted to try to re shred today but prob too tired.Have baby group too,i love it now cos she really enjoys it especially the singing.I joined her in the library on Sat,she absolutely loves books,will sit for hours on my lap scratching the pictures and drooling haha.

Morning! Sorry about the still non-sleeping babies. K was awake for nearly all of yesterday and then still would not sleep. I got him down at about half 8 but he was still up in the night and ended up in with me. Not sure about the 4 month regression, I thought it was supposed to be about 48 hours - but we are coming up for 2 weeks as well... oh well, I suppose these babies haven't read the books or googled their own sleep disorders!

Jane glad the memorial was comforting, so proud of you. Also, don't worry about the dress shopping, I'm going to be bridesmaid for my friend who is a 24, and when we went dress shopping they were lovely, really helpful with pointing out which ones would suit her. She ended up buying one that the owner picked out for her as soon as she walked in, which is completely different to what she would have chosen but really works. I say be open minded, try on a lot and see what works for you. You'll probably end up with the first one you try, that has happened to 3 of my mates! Oh, and have fun!

Ledkr I second the confidence thing, but it's hard to fake if you're not feeling it vodka? Get yourself tarted up and see how you feel. I'm sure people will accept the whole young baby thing anyway - it is difficult, like Reastie says, just to get out of the house

suzy definitely get the man on duty for a night, then see which side of his face he's laughing! We are all arguing at the moment, it seems like. We have FIL staying at the moment and he threw a wobbler yesterday because I didn't say good morning - I was in the bathroom, water running and all! DP and I have been at each other all weekend, so I'm kind of glad he's gone back to work today :)

reastie .................... BOO!

byron-i did warn you you'd be jinxed if you talked about a well sleeping baby on here,i was.Tbh i cant complain re little d cos she always sleeps about 10 hrs just likes her early mornings

Morning!

Early start here - I slept (ha, coughed more like) in the spare room and went back into ours at 5am when I heard R shouting. She was already in bed with DP giggling and rolling away. We managed to get her off for about another 30m but we were up, showered and sorted before 7am. I've only had 3 hours sleep so will be needing a nap later.

ledkr I don't get the bad PMT but I do get horrendously bloated while on. I gave myself a few days off the diet over the weekend and feel much better for it. About to go and stock up on super healthy food though in aid of operation bridesmaid...would you like me to post some no WW point soup to Cheltenham?

Byronic Boo to K not sleeping. Can you relax his routine a little and find out when his naturally sleepy time is?

Reastie Agree re the military manoeuvre. I dared to go to the HV and Buggy Fit last Tuesday morning. I had the bag packed the night before!

Jane The good thing about wedding dresses is that you can choose one that really suits your shape. I have no personal experience but all my friends who have got married have ended up with dresses which are labelled with sizes much bigger than they actually are, my friend who is an 8/10 ended up with a 14! A good reason to ignore the size labels I think.

Off to the supermarket...how glam. Then home to wait in for the gas man - I bet he comes in the middle of R's nap!

Thanks choco,you can do if you have spare few or i can buy them online? im well set up for this week tho with my ww meals. Glad im not the only opne wih the bloody 5am wake up,ive had 4 hrs sleep,no naps here tho. I think d is waking from habit,she does sleep later if bed later,what time does R go to be?

Morning ladies. Actually sniggering that we've all been totally p'd off with our DHs on father's day, yeah me too! We had a day yesterday of both feeling hard done by and a little bit fed up with our lot. It's not serious, but I still feel like he just doesn't GET what it's like having to be C's Mummy 24/7, when he gets an hour in the evening and one day at the weekend. And I probably don't appreciate how exhausted he is with work etc. as well.

Anyway, today is a new day, but crap weekend, glad to see the back of it.

Photo shoot was good tho! C was cute, and we got a good 20 mins of snaps which was a good length of good mood!

D

I'm making the soup ledkr ...not sure it would survive in an envelope :)

R goes to bed around 8. She's usually fit to drop around then. She always starts stirring before 5 but will usually stay asleep til 7. She's not hungry - just awake and ready for the day. She has started being better at naps (although she won't nap upstairs)..45m around 9, 45-1.5hr at about 2 a d 30m around 5:30. She's napping on me now in fact,..

I know what you mean D, I'm always feelng hard done by. I'm actually jealous of DP going to work!

Meant to do some 'replies' before posting but the phone rang and I just got carried away failing to multitask clicking on things.

reastie LOL re militaru maneouvre, I feel your pain.

led glad you had a nice time in Paris but sorry you're feeling crappy. It's a bit of a funny stage at the mo I think, if you're not feeling that chipper. I have had a good few weeks where I have thought my PND issues had gone away, but at the mo I am kind of feeling the relentlessness of it all. I mean we're all coping now, and it is easier than it was, but it's still in a lot of ways...well...a little bit shit as well. I think this is why DH and I have been falling out a bit. Even tho C sleeps well, we are still tired, and kind of tired of feeling tired. And feeling like we're making no progress, even tho loggically we are. This might be nothing like you are feeling, but I guess what I mean is that things feel a little bit...I don't know...stagnated at the moment.

deb either we're both doing something right, or we're both equally nuts!

Back later, C is just waking up.

D

Morning all, well a better night here, dd woke at 5am and I tried something on the link ledkr - treat early morning waking as you would middle of the night waking, so even though she looked wide awake I put the dummy in and shushed her a bit and she went back to sleep til 6 :) Did the same again and back til 6.30 then dummy again til 7

Might be a fluke but I don't care

Managed to get on a bit better with dp last night think we both made an effort.

reastie sorry to hear last night was another bad one, did the bad sleep start suddenly? If it did heres hoping it may stop just as suddenly.

choc do you fancy posting that recipe for healthy soup for me pleeease?! Think you have posted it before but would like to have a look.

delia glad to photo shoot went well - pics up soon?!

ledkr good luck at docs if you go today.

Am going to look at a nursery today - bit early perhaps but think you have to get in early. Btw am not being made redundant now - thats a whole other story for when dd isn't crying!

SOup? That reminds me I used to cook a wallpaper paste lettuce soup recipe by gillian mc-fainter-keith which was filling and healthy - should hunt that out and do a big pot for lunches

well, just got back from family planning clinic at hosp where I had an apt re: coil fitting and thought this would make you all - I think I've been mning too much - I was speaking to the nurse and asking her a question about if dh could come in to the actual insertion as I was chicken and I blurted out 'darling' instead of husband and couldn't get the husband out at all - it sounded like I was calling this poor nurse darling . I think I should start referring to dh as simply h from now on to save further future embarasement

got a sheet re: getting ready for my apt to have coil inserted and it's made me really - says things like 'allow 2 hrs for apt...some women feel faint; do not drive to the clinic; ensure you have no major commitments afterwards; take painkillers before; it#s best to have eaten prior to the fitting' - - they arn't really selling it to me - I had swabs today and I found that horribly painful (think I've got a thing now about internal examinations after really painful ones in hosp when being induced). They said given my history of csec and failed coil insertion in the past it might take quite a long time to insert . Anyone had a coil that can talk some sense in me? Plus, what on earth is the make sure you eat first point for?

pomyo I hope it's not a fluke

d any chance of seeing a photo from the shoot on your profile, pretty please? What outfit did you decide upon?

Not sure when/whether the pics will be available, will be a week at the earliest as that's when we go for a 'viewing' of them.

r on outfits, DH and I just ended up in jeans and white shirts, and C was in a cute dress with red bolero cardi. She looks well cute and the ones on her tummy she has a really proud look on her face, like you can tell it's a new thing she's learnt!

D

Well the gas man came at the allotted time soni now technically have time to do some exercise, however R is refusing to nap.

Re: soups ponyo I have a few.

There's a Chinese style one which is just lots of Chinese veggies (beansprouts, waterchesnuts, peppers, pak choi, mushrooms) with ginger, garlic and soy sauce to taste. I do that one in the slow cooker and keep it on warm for a couple of days lunches. It good cos I like
food to have a crunch.

Today's was Butternut Squash. Chop up the squash (you can leve skin on), boil it up with a litre of stock and some mixed spice, cinnamon and paprika then blitz it with the blender. Reckon this'll be especially good when R is eating food as she can have some of the same squash without too many spices.

Then there's a tomato and red pepper one. Roast a few peppers, then pop in pan with a couple of tins of tomatoes and a bit of stock. I usually throw in a few sundried tomatoes too as I love them.

I already sorted nursery...although still waiting for place to be confirmed. They obviously think I'm sorting it dead early bit getting a good nursery was key to me going back to work full time.

delia Was C good on the photo shoot? Thinking of getting one done with R but knowing my luck she'll pull sad faces the whole time!

Still no napping here, although it's gone quiet as R is glued to Rafa Nadal at Wimbledon!

chocoroo C was good really. We probably had 15-20 minutes of 'useful' time. But it was not a posed thing, it was just be, DH and C messing around on a big white sheet, trying to get her to smile and laugh, or just look at things. The thing is that because of the flash, and it was a big light palce she had never been before, she had that 'look of wonder' on her face for quite a lot of it, which is nice. I mean she wasn't really actually smiley for many of the pics, but in those kind of shots, you don't really need to be, IYSWIM. We're looking at them all next Saturday so hopefully there will be a few we can buy without having to take out a second third mortgage.

D

you were right! Now what do I do?
Thanks choc I think I was just trying to do too much around his nap time instead of getting some quiet time, relying on his newborn ability to sleep anywhere and not get distracted by blades of grass or children playing. Oh well!
Had a nice time at baby group today, I say baby but the others there today were 2.5, 3 and 5! We sat around and talked about house hunting and bitched about the in laws. Twas a bit like MN! You lot are still better though, don't get jealous!
It is getting proper hot here now, I didntwant to get on the tram with K awake and fussy so I stomped around in the heat until he passed out went to sleep. What was I thinking? Sod the people on the tram, it's got aircon!

Meant to say, delia glad the photoshoot went well, am quite tempted now but that would mean I have to do the same for any future, non-pfbs, right? Also I completely agree with the way you described how you are feeling and why. What do we do, sit it out and hope the OHs are there at the end? I know getting out and having adult conversation has helped me a lot, even if it's punctuated by the needs of other LOs!

delia im glad the photo shoot went well.

reastie i hope the coil fitting is quick and painless! The thought of having a coil freaks me out!

This bloody waiting (pun not intended!) for AF to arrive is so annoying! I cant wait to get back down to the ttc business. Although i am still having some dizzy spells and by boobs are sore so confused

jane I can imagine you're completely on tenterhooks, it must be frustrating! And really hard not to drive yourself mad with wondering if/maybe etc. Have you given yourself a 'test again' day if no AF by x-day?

D

delia i probs test again at the end of the week, hope you are all having a nice evening. Im having a boring one, DF is working away from this week .