Feb 2011 - The one where they all start sleeping through the night! (We hope)

[WanderingSheep]

Was hoping a positive title might bring us some good luck

jane It's been such a short time since Zoe died, you'll always be her Mum and she'll always be your daughter and if anyone else says otherwise I'll hop on a plane and "knock their melt in". I haven't been in Glasgow since my sister moved - any excuse

tad in a word yes, series 2 has just finished. I think series or should that be season 1 was slightly better but I heart Idris Elba said it once, will say it again - sex on a stick [swoon]

Anna's five and a half going on 15 or 2 depending on which end of the dramatic scale she's on at the moment! Not staying in more than one night as it's about a grand a night in the hospital! Hoping the insurance will pick up most of the tab....

Trying to cut down on FB at the moment but will happily join a group.

Well done on the potty training Hubbard and for the weight loss ledkr. Love the baby sensory stories reastie. Apologies if I've missed anyone.

tad grand a night, I'd be looking a jacuzzi, massage and Idris Elba for that much!!! Sofia is 6, going on 13, she's at a delightful eye rolling stage at the minute, but I think she might get that from me Having flashbacks to being told by many a teacher and of course my mum "don't you roll those eyes at me young lady!"

reastie also meant to say loving the baby sensory stories, I'm such an unsociable bugger that I take my hat off to you. I did Jo Jingles with Olivia, the longest 45 mins of both our lives, so we decided to ditch it and mooch around Tescos instead, followed by breakfast

Well you do get free room service between 5am and midnight and the food is quite good. But yes, infinity pool, Margaritas and free spa treatments could surely be had for that price!

wiggles i'd love you knock their melts in! Where in glasgod did your sis stay? I used to be over in Belfast loads when DF's sister stayed in Carrickfergus and my Big cousin stayed in Hollywood. Not been over in 2 years and miss the Northern whig!

I would want Jared Leto for that price! On that note, have you seen him in the new hugo boss ad? He is HOT! If anyone wants to add me on FB my name is L.i.n.d.a s.t.e.v.e.n.s.o.n (with the dots, hoping my name doesn't come on on a search) My profile pic is of Zoe's name in sand.

jane you won't believe this but my sister manages bars - she managed Waxys in Glasgow until about 6 years ago, and she moved home and managed the Northern Whig until last year Freaky deaky!!

Weird, Waxys was my old student haunts! I prob spoke to your sis at some point

Right off to bed, have a feeling we won't be getting another lie in tomorrow!! Also digesting Janes and I interconnecting places to get drunk Hope we all sleep well, jane great to see you back, although we all understand why it might be vv difficult for you, we all missed you

yep it would be ds i'm potty training, it's going quite well. Bribery seems to be working very well as he is now the proud owner of jupiter which he is currently cuddling in bed. We had no accidents today, including a number 2 in his potty. He gets stickers each time and when he gets 20 he gets a new toy. It was 10 but he got that in 2 days and i really can't afford to keep shelling out on new toys. So i'm making it a bit harder.
What is this luther??
Jane your grief will never leave you, but one day you'll find it a little easier to carry. No one had the bond you did with zoe, you knew her like no one else so your grief will never be like others. I really admire your strength and it's that strength that will carry you through the dark days.

Morning all- heard a few screeches from Sabine's room at 5.30 but quiet again now, of course I'm still awake , this is momentous though as she only had ONE FEED last night!!! Had to get up though to check if i'm a millionaire!!!!...... I'm not.

hubbard tres impressed at the potty training, how old is DS? (please say older than Imy please say older than Imy...)

jane glad you're back :)

reastie I'm on FB (as DH, bit confusing), would be happy to joing A Group although don't really know what one is....

borg I thpught at first it was a fake cough but I think it's real now. She's been doing it for a few days, she is perfectly healthy otherwise. Heard her coughing during the night last night too

Wiggles sorry did not get your street slang, you are indeed down with said kids . We tried Jingle babies, Nate loves it but he loves all his classes. He is such a spod, he always wants to sit near the "teacher", will smile at them the whole time and starts to breathe fast and shakes his arms until the next song starts like he's getting really impatient.
Jane glad you're back!
Reastie I think I'm on FB but not been on for about 2 years
Wandering what was your mamas& papas problem. Was it you with the Sola? Mine has a dodgy wheel and it's like pushing a supermarket trolley now! I bought a snooze shade but realised there is a stupid clear panel above his head so useless blackout purchase. They have the most unfriendly staff ever too.
Deb cough is annoying, probably just the remnants of a virus, coughs can take AGES to clear in babies. I hated it when Nate had a cold (the most minor actual cold ever, not ill at all) it just messed up his sleep and everything for ages.

We were up at 5am today, nothing but nothing would persuade him to go back to sleep, Grrr

after going to bed at 8, freya woke at 7, fed and is still asleep.
Ds is 2.7. We had tried before but it normally led to the potty being thrown at us.

Morning all,had abit of a night of it with my darling dd she kept waking up and was very restless.She had 3 great nights in the travel cot but last night she was thrashing about and kept going onto her tummy but not being happy about it.I woke up with a cracking headache good job dh is off today.
Jane i did wonder if you were finding it hard being on here and i dont blame you,it must be very hard hearing about all things that Zoe would be doing,did you find it helped not being here? Never think for a second we forget about Zoe and that we dont appreciate how lucky we are. In a way it might be positive to stay here with us cos its indicative of your pregnancy and of Zoe's existence.And we are your friends now and want to help you thru this and share your wedding and next baby
I couldnt find the mesh thingy at all.
I am sad that Luther has finished,who ever heard of only 4 episodes?He is sooo fit.Any wire fans can you reccomend a new series we can watch.
I dont do face book either,i cant stand it,people knowing my business.I would get too wound up by ex h too,announcing how he's "spending time with my special girl" his 9 month old dd,whilst he practically ignores our children,id end up killing him.
Ella had a brownies pj party last night she loved it,brownies is so good,its only 15 pound a term,not much you can do for that.Will the girls be going wiggs
I give d rice and fruit with her meds at 4,30,she's not that bothered tbh and its tricky with the cleft.

I just have to have a little boast...I am sitting on the sofa, drinking hot tea and eating buttery crumpets. Peace and quiet. DD had a sleepover at PIL last night and I haven't collected her yet. I do love her to pieces but this is bliss!

ledkr I had a feeling you'd be in the hate fb camp . Well, I have no idea how to go about doing a group on there (or how to find anyone) but if anyone is more literate than me in these matters I'd be happy to join

brownies is ace - but I would say that as I used to be a tawny owl . There are a breed of quite......odd brownie leaders though so I hasten to add I wasn't one of those. You know the sort - old skool and love a spot of camping and the type of person to have a poster saying 'you don't have to be mad to work here but it helps' up and think it's hillarious

Hey all, well dd has been rolling onto her front all morning, sometimes she's fine and lifts her head up, sometimes she rubs her face into the rug and cries She's currently asleep on her tummy :)

Hi jane, glad you're back, I can only second everything ledkr has said, can't imagine how hard it must be for you sometimes hearing about the babies. Your family and friends may have moved on but don't feel there is any rush for you, and if anyone is telling you that you should be feeling better now I will send wiggles over to sort them out :)

Borg I have the bloody Sola with the bloody wonky wheel!! Its such a pain - took it back to M&P and they said they could order me another wheel but don't know if that would help? How annoying that yours is like that too, most things from M&P are poor quality I've found. Loved your description of N being teachers pet

deb could you take her to docs re: cough? I know that might be seen as over reacting but I rememeber taking dd about twice a week for the first couple of weeks - could be worth a go if just for peace of mind?

choc I do hope you've had a nice big lie in today too :)

ledkr sorry about your rubbish night, dd was thrashing a bit last night too and at one point I went in and she had both legs in the bars of the cot but she slept til 7 so I'm not complaining. Hope you can get some rest today if dh is off.

Better go and do something useful whilst she is still asleep - hi everyone else hope you are well

ledkr there were 6 episodes of Luther - you're missing some , girls will be joining Scouts they take them from P3 (about 7), well Sofia is dying to join, Olivia not much of a joiner - pup out of her Mum. This pre/antenatal group is my longest relationship apart from Mr W!!

A was up at 6am and like Debka only up once last night, I actually think Anna was up for a bit of a moan as opposed to actually wanting a bottle.

reastie Anna would have 5 feeds a day and would nap for between 2-3 hours a day, does that make me a Gina Ford devotee, who'd have thunk it Ingid pah you hater, see borg I'm still keeping up/down? with the kids!!

chocoroo glad you're enjoying the peace I can't actually remember the last time I read OK National Geographic, or had hot buttery crumpets!!

Oh I don't do facebook, not encouraged re Mr W job. Besides someone I went to school with might track me down - a fate worse than death

debka no Euromillions for me either

Reastie, I would say the naps are def a problem. Noah has around 2.5 to 3 hours sleep a day, and feeds every 3 hours ish, with porridge and banana at 3ish.
Jane, I'm glad your back, hope your ok.
I'm on fb a bit, not sure how to start a group tho.
Reastie, help out at Rainbows, haven't since Noah was born but hope to go back after Summer. I really enjoy it!
Noah wakes at least twice a night with a really blocked nose. He's fine all day apart from when he sleeps! Can't understand it. He gets so distressed. Ended up bringing him in with me at 4am. Am getting him weighed today so might mention it to the hv.
Hope you've all got sunshine wherever you are.

Thanks ledkr i was finding it hard but found it harder not being on here!
I missed you all, and i do like to hear about the babies although it does hurt sometime. Hope you get some Me time today with DH being off!

reastie at just 17, Jared Leto is in the band 30 seconds to Mars and still super hot!

debka well done Sabine

Welcome back jane so glad to hear from you. Jared Leto....yum! I was so obsessed with him when I was about 14, might go and google him now......

reastie when you first posted your routine I thought the frequent feeds might be the problem, but didnt want to say as I am no expert! Harry has 4 feeds and 2 sometimes 3 naps, totalling no more than 3 hours. However, we are deffo not perfect so take what I say with a pinch of salt!

Thanks for the advice re: rice, I am giving H bits and pieces ad hoc throughout the day and have no real solids routine, oops! H has had more banana in his feeder today after brekky as he downed 9oz! he is such a fatty!

I am still in my pjs and eating biccies while H nap....have watched Jezzer Kyle and am now watching This Morning....does thtis all make me a lazy bad mammy?!

emski H has a blocked nose at night too, sometimes wakes him up at 4/5am altho he does settle back off again, it can make him quite upset poor thing!

Hubbard I have no idea what a cuddly Jupiter could be, but so glad DS is doing well.

Jane sorry to read you've been having a tough time, I think of Zoe, you and df lots. You take as long as you need, you have been such a strong lady, Zoe must be do proud of her mummy.

Suzy and D sorry you are both having tough times, I know what you mean about deciding whether or not the trip is worth it, as Z is awful at sleeping in the pram these days.

40weeks well done on the tv interview, you did a fab job. Mikey is georgous and you look stunning, who'd have though you'd just had a baby!?

deb I love the weaning pic, the cake you made is amazing!! What flavours were the sponges?

restie so sorry you are having a tough time in the evenings. I think the key is choosing a technique between you and DH and sticking with it for 2 weeks, by which point the problem should be long solved and if not then you can reassess. I think alot of the time we jump from one idea to another and it confuses things. Re feeds and sleep, Z eats approx 7 times a day, I think breastfeeding isn't taken into consideration by lovely Ms Ford. He has also sleeps between 4-6 hrs split between 3 naps per day -at night he goes down at 7.30, I wake him for dreamfeed around 11, he wakes at 5ish for quick feed, straight back down until 7.30 in my previous exp sleep breeds sleep. If he wakes in the evening I pick him up, cuddle and calm, stood right next to cot and put him back down, all without talking, other than shhhhh, no eye contact if possible, I then leave the room - I may have to do this several times before he goes back off - this is just our chosen technique, obv won't work for everyone.

ponyo how are you getting on with the mobile? We have that one too Z loves it! I especially love the rainforest sounds option.

Sorry to hear about the rubbish m&p service. We are also having issues with out P&T, it's broken and been fixed twice since we got it, the shop wanted to give us a new one, but the powers that be have decided to send a new break to be fitted.

I've not been able to post in ages, I was finding it hard to catch up as every time I came back there were more pages to read, but finally have! Having a tough time here again (still?!) mil is being an epic bitch, Im just not getting time to recover and process the birth as she has been even worse since I had Z than before, I could rant and rave but won't bore you all.
I also received my labour notes which I'm not sure was a good idea, found out the reason that we kept loosing Z's heartbeat throughout labour and was unresponsive and blue at birth was because he had his cord tightly around his neck, this also explains why it was instantly cut, but has lead to even more nightmares and what ifs, perhaps ignorance is bliss. A bit of the pain and damage was explained, not only was he super baby (born with an arm with head) but he was also born back of head first which I'd not been told.

I've been reading Life After Birth, thanks to whoever recommended it all those months back, sorry, I forget who that was!

OH suggested I had pnd last night, which made me howl even more, surely that's impossible now, I mean, Z is 5 months and I love him to bits. I think my problem is just mil and that family.

Hope you are all well x

Wow, sorry for the huge post