Feb 2011- a bit late, but we're finally in post natal!

[debka]

Welcome everyone!!

deb what a lovely photo, and hell no she look the very opposite of malnourished! So cute :)

wiggles gorgeous photos from you too, see I don't know how you do it with 3 either but it makes my daydreaming about having 3 kids even more vivid! (of course in my day dreams its all nice and lovely and, well like in your photos really )

ledkr i thought the same as deb, really like hearing about you and E spending time together, I can't wait to do the same with A. E must love it having you as a mum :)

Have been walking round town loads today so am tired, all good though its exercise isn't it, even though I didn't find a dress for Fri Also I've been grumpy pants with dp today but to be fair he's been annoying too. So am planning on having an early night as lack of sleep makes me even grumpier.

Have had a read of all posts and will catch up more tomo, dp out so when dd is in bed I can mn without being talked to

elle if you'd like to post me a large amount of free cadburys samples to test I'm sure we could come to an arrangement about my preference to galaxy . You're not going to get me with green and blacks though - I just don't really like the flavour

I wonder if being grumpy burns more calories ponyo - it might take more energy to be grumpy, in which case, by your self confesed grumpiness it means you'll drop a dress size for fri (and also explains why my dh is so slim )

reastie in that case I'll make sure I'm a miserable cow all week!

at you not liking G&B's though, why not?!

I'm so mean dp is being all nice to me and I can't be nice back

debka missed your post earlier, sounds like a lovely day, mmmm Mr Whippy.

wobblybumm I'll have been with Mr W for 20 years in June , what's even more shocking is that he has a photo in his wallet of me 20 years ago, the hair, the hair what was I thinking?

Ponyo I have found going from 2 to 3 easier than from 1 to 2, that might be more to do with the bigger age gap or the fact that I am actually getting some sleep this time but probably the fact that Fia & Liv are easily bribed children which I use to my advantage

reastie I have put a photo of myself up for a limited time only, it was just a few weeks after Anna was born, I am a dead ringer for Pippa Middleton now , oops think I may have overexcited Mr W with a mention of the delightful Miss Middleton's arse personality

Yay another face to a name! Really cute pic wiggles, you look fab. Love the pic of A holding her head up really well in the next one down too, wow!

A few people have told me having 3 isn't much harder than having 2, of course I can't actually imagine having another baby at the mo but thats something to mention to dp when he tells me we'd only have one more, if that...

Loving the photos wiggles, you and your girls are all gorgeous.

reastie i hope you get the kitchen problems sorted soon, if the workmen give you any trouble tell them you will phone Dom! Don't get done, get Dom!

deb Bina looks the picture of health in the pic, stuff the Health visitors!

Ohh what this i hear about chocolate samples? Fell free to Send some in my direction.

I have been such a grump today too, (hoping it's some pmt) packed DF off to the pub for some peace, not that he complained.

ledkr hope you and ella are enjoying your quality time, i love it when my baby sister (she is 9) comes to stay, i have an excuse to watch Narnia!

You all have some lovely photos up. I can't post any from my netbook as there aren't any on here but will try and get on the PC soon.

Hope you had a lovely anniversary 40. Congratulations on the 20 years wiggles! You look lovely in your photo but I am curious about the one from 20 years ago now!

We were out for lunch today and dh got there with the elder two before me and S and picked a table in the window. Everyone who came up to look at the menu could see me bfing S - reminded me of reastie's cover-up!

I think it is easier going from 2 to 3 as my standards have slipped I am more relaxed now! I will be breaking open a bottle of bubbly when dd starts school in September though!

All this talk of chocolate makes me feel homesick. Hersheys is not very nice and buying imported Cadbury's is expensive and some of it is Australian and a different recipe! Luckily Mum and Dad are coming out to visit next month and bringing some chocolate buttons for me the dcs!

Thank you for your kind comments, am going to bed with a slightly red face and inflated head.

tadjenny whenever my sil and bil come back from Washington, my mil always buys a big tin of Roses for my sil. She loves them, the first Christmas she came home with bil she was in awe of selection boxes. My uncle has lived in Boston for almost 40 years - my nana still sends him over a selection box every Christmas - he's 55 and she's 84!!! Just shows your children are always babies to you

Bloody hell bloody babies grrrrr

My little perfect girl NOT fed at 12, at 2, then woke up singing to herself at 4.30, fed again at 4.40, did NOT go back to sleep and we are now up. It is 5.25am. HOW IS SHE NOT TIRED?????? ledkr i'll do you a swap.

elle did not know that about galaxy , i prefer dairy milk. Do i get a free sample? I'm with reastie, don't like green andblacks, too posh for me.

reastie i haven't kept up with your DOTD but it does seem that if a thread carries on for long enough it descends into nastiness which is often unrelated to the OP. I think it's a shame they've all put you off your cover, i think it's a good idea if it makes you feel more comfortable and lets you wear your dresses.

Not sure about the grumpiness=thinness hypothesis, my DH, as you well know, is the miserablest man on the planet, and he has developed a tummy since being married to my baking me.

wiggles love the piccie . is this one that the wanted missing posters would use you speak of? speaking of old piccies - ,maybe we should all just post an old piccie of us with embarassing hair/clothes/make up/boyfriend etc - would give everyone a laugh and no one would recognise you now from it. Obv nothing like that exists of me but will have a look when I get time to see if there's anything suitable.

ponyo green and black has an odd flavour I don't really like. Having said that, if someone were to dangle some in front of me I wouldn't say no

jane I'll have to stuff dom littlewood in the cupboard under the sink and get him to pounce when the man comes back to see what we're unhappy with

deb I hope you are now sleeping soundly.

Morning all, ouch deb that was an early start. Hope you've got back to sleep since then.
tad totally with you on the chocolate thing. The Australian cadbury recipe is different (and worse) due to a higher melting point so suitable for hotter countries. It's just nasty and such a disappointment. Maybe elle can sort that out? :)
All quiet on the poo front here, and by quiet I mean no more blood, despite a thorough investigation at 3 this morning by DP with a reading light! Niiiiiiiice.
I'm up and relatively with it this morning as have to get to the accountant. Yes, Sunday morning appointment, deadline looming for tax returns.
Lovely photos up now, and I feel a bit stalkerish just looking so I'll put up some too when I'm near the laptop. Voyeurism is only fun for a while! It's nice to put faces to names

Well i got about an hour more sleep until S woke at 7 with a ginormous poo and peckish again. She's up now but yawning- bed for her again soon but not me- Imy will be up imminently. it's times like these i wish i had a DH who'd help out a bit when i've had a bad night.

ooo deb that sounds grim,do you think its regression? I do always feel for you with your dh,my ex was no help and saw nights and early morns as nothing to do with him and i worked full time!!!I think its why my dc's all were good sleepers eventually,they had to be. I had a choice between a row or just getting on with it so i chose the latter,like you,I chose the quiet option for 18yrs tbh,re his drinking,cannabis use and lack of love for me and dc's. He then cheated and i booted him out,everyone has there limits

I found that now D is 4 mos i have to be carefull about nap times,i think that bad night i had Wednesday may have been from her having a nap 4-5pm.I have not allowed her to nap past 4 since and she's been fine,did s have a late nap?She is beautifull btw.
D woke up at 6am this am but she was in spare room with dh and its very light in there as curtains thin.

Im mn whilst Ella is seeing to D's nappy and dressing her-loving the age gap.

Planning a quiet day today,bit of tv and a roast dinner,may take girls for a walk to get some chocolate and the papers,dh at work. Oh shred first of course.

Pils update.----Dh told them they will have to find a hotel for the christening as we have to be at church for 10 and im doing all the catering myself.Mil said she could helpso dh said that she never does and that we dont need the bathrooms and kitchen for hours whilst they have a leisurly morning as we will be up at dawn very busy. Im going to call her bluff and let them stay and then wake them up at 6am and start barking orders,my Mum and sisters will be here doing food so should put her to shame.
They have announced that they are camping up the rd over half term obv got the message re my b and b limits at last.Dh is working most of it so we will only have the Fri sat sun so we will see them then but at least i wont be wiping their arses looking after their needs and im not messing up D'd routine so there will be no meals out at night that we will be expected to pay for Sounds like a perfect visit,i almost feel sorry for them,it could have been so different for them had they behaved more appropriately.

camping up the road ledkr - I hope for your sake that doesn't mean they'll be sponging meals from you over at every mealtime . I love the idea of sergant major ledkr barking orders to them at 6am for christening. Make sure they get the 'best' chores to do

Kitchen man currently here discussing with DH what problems we have with it. I'm chicken and scared too busy with alice to join in so hiding in my bedroom

OOOO you should have got me round,dh cringes when i talk to tradesmen.When our kitchen was done he didnt take the old cooker,i rang up and he tried to fob me off,i told him that the next time i looked out of my window it was to be gone or they would be removing the whole kitchen as i wouldnt be paying them
Re pils,its a good starting point,i will invite them for a meal or two on my terms,when i watched dh nervously shuffling around breaking the news of their visit to me i realised i have to make a bit of an effort poor bloke I think i have made my point as they have not been for ages and are now camping instead. Am going to change things tho,not going back to the b and b crap. Off to shred now.

you're so right ledkr - feeling like you are doing things on your terms makes you feel so much more positive about ILs rather than when they invite themselves over (did you reach on opinion re: my pm on MIL btw?) Enjoy the shredled (my new name for shred thanks to wiggles good nn and the fact that ledkr started this shred crazed thread

deb have you ever dumped left DC with DH and legged it out for a quiet moment to yourself? I wonder what he'd do

Morning, ledkr don't feel sorry for them, rod for their own back and all that! Leave them to camp it up

Oh reatie you sound like me, i always leave DF to deal with the not so nice stuff, i hate confrontation.

deb what a crap night you had, pop cbeebies on and plop Imy in front of tv for an hour, you rest up girl.

I'm having a lazy day too, DF is still snoring away, i've been up since the crack of dawn too (bloody nightmares). Doctor refused to refer me to counselling as apparently i am grieving "normally". I might go to a SANDS meeting next month.

jane in complete at your GP. that's utterly terrible. Have you contacted 'cruise' (a charity specialising in berevement counselling - not just plugging it as my mum trains counsellors for them, am plugging as they are v good)?

Kitchen man back tomorrow to redo the whole thing

reastie I do feel like i am coping well but i do have my down time. I have had a good week, i can look at pics of Zoe and go into her room and smile. I love talking about her, i am proud of her, she brought so much happiness to lots of people and her legacy has helped to raise awareness and over £2,500 so far for SANDS.

Hope the kitchen men pull thier finger out and do the job properly this time!

Ladies HELP I have just had a letter saying my last smear test showed "borderline" changes and i have to repeat the test in 6 months. I am shitting myself obviously with my history im more panicky than otherwise.Any experiences of this? The letter is reassuring but i am not.Pleas help.dont want to start a thread if i can get abit of help here.

Jane I am a partially trained counsellor and just because you are grieving "normally" whatever the fuck that is,does not mean you cant benefit from some structures sessions. Yes cruise and sands good isea,research shows that people recieve the best counselling from peers.

Ledkr You're alright sweetheart, my sister gets this every third test or so, in her case it totally depends on when in the month the test is done. I know how with the medical history your mind is in overdrive at the minute, she has asked for the test to be brought forward when she has got one of these letters before but there needs to be a few months gap for comparison - hers is always put down to cell changes, my mum goes with her and feckin' terrifies grills the GP to make sure they are sure there's nothing else there. I know its easy to say don't worry - big, big, big hug, I don't care how unmumsnetty it is.

ledkr i can't offer any advice but i have heard of people getting the same letter when having a smear after giving birth. everything will be fine, i'm joining wiggles and sending you hugs too.

thanks girls,i am calming down now and my lovely best friend is on her way round with fags and coffee. Gosh just when you think your ok eh?