Feb 2011- a bit late, but we're finally in post natal!

[debka]

Welcome everyone!!

a bothing microwave meal? what's that?! I think I meant boring

Hi all, thanx again for support. Hv quite helpful, made me realise that its the tiredness that's getting to me and that I need to let dh help. It's no use me telling him he's fecking useless apparently and I have to let him learn for himself! Do feel a bit better especially as Noah seems a bit more settled today, really hope we have a good night tonight!
Ledkr, oh no the dreaded four month sleep regression! Hope Noah sleeps a but better before then so I can grab some sleep before it all hits

Emski76 Great that the HV was useful - agree with her, you need to leave dh and Noah alone and leave the house for a while. All mine are always better/easier for Mr W if I'm not there

is the dreaded 4 month sleep regression an urban myth or does it actually exist? . had never heard of it before.

ems so glad you're bit more positive now and your hv is right - hope your dh pulls his finger out and helps out more.

Hi all. Contrary to popular belief i was not "collapsed on the floor from shredding" I was in fact CYCLING to ballet with Ella after a big walk in the park with the pram and stopping to read the paper on the bench and drink my coffee I am loving the shred.who was it on here that does it was it you 40?
I am afraid the 4 month sleep regression seems to be a reality.Not that i have been googling it all day its linked to growth spurts and developmental changes which make them abit anxious,people wean early or stop bf to try and stop it but it isnt that.I too was worried about it as Dilly was sleeping so well and it looks like ive been cursed with it. Am kind of dreading tonight but dh has offered so hey.
Emskifor some reason im a bit weird sbout letting dh take over,im not sure if its martyrdom,stubborness or guilt but i have been thinking-look what i went thru (thanks wiggles for the ackowledgement) to have her and she's his too and the fact that i am a great mother and nice person as long as i get my sleep,like you i am very affected by lack of it and dh is not so in future i will be leaning heavier on him i suggest you do too
Am approaching tonight with some trepidation,was it a one off?or is it regression?Time will tell.

Emski So glad you're feeling better. I can definitely 2nd (or 3rd) the idea of going out and letting DH take charge. I took it to extremes and went on a hen do for 4 days but I reckon just the hairdressers and a nice cup of tea out should do it :)

ledkr What is this shred you speak of? Does it allow me to lose 3 stone before I'm a bridesmaid? I would LOVE my dress to be too big for me and have to pay to have it altered. (Disclaimer - I'd pay, not the bride!).

reastie I grew up in a half hourse town. Well, village really but we did have a Chinese take away. No cash point though... I live in the city now and wouldn't leave it for the world (except to another city). In fact I can often be heard whinging that there's not enough to do here and it was better when I lived in London (all I did in London is get drunk!).

I'm thinking of having a las minute trip to the Baby Show at the NEC tomorrow. Does anyone know if it's worth it? I was thinking of getting weaning stuff in...

High everyone

ledkr I think it was a one-off and Dilly will be fine for you tonight.

emski much sympathy coming your way- I am sure it is the grinding tiredness that is making you feel so awful. DH MUST help out, or MiL, and you must LET THEM. I'm also terrible at letting go of my babies (ok, not the big screamy one quite so much), but if you let DH or MiL take him for an afternoon so you can just turn everything off and SLEEP you'll feel a whole lot better. And do it again the next day if necessary. You have to think of yourself, unfortunately when you're the Mummy no-one else does that for you. [bitter expression]

So, we had our day in London and our appointment, it went well, and Sabine is in the standard group (phew). So no early weaning for us (double phew). She was weighed, measured, examined, etc etc, and they had to take 10ml of blood, that was grim. I nearly told them not too. But we did it. Now I just carry on as per govt guidelines- ie ebf till 6mo and no allergenic foods till 6mo if we do decide to start weaning earlier. I have to complete a questionnaire every month until she's one, then every 3 months till she's 3, and she has another appt at 1 then at 3. Then that's it.

A few interesting statistics- although govt guidelines say no solids until 6mo- less than ONE PERCENT of babies are still ebf at that age!! And the average age that solids are first given? Take a guess. I'll tell you the answer tomorrow!

Hope you all have brilliant nights, especially you emski. xxxx

Deb i reckon its 15wks. Im not so sure about the one off thing,i put her to bed at 7 and im sure i can hear her on the monitor already,This is just my luck that she's going to really milk the regression thing,Sister didnt apologise but was obviously sheepish and bought me some info on regression.
elles im liking your style, I am sat here now booking a trip to paris for me and Ella. I have no qualms about having some time whilst dh has her,i reckon its good for them both.
The shred is a 20 min a day intensive exercise dvd.Its that shouty bully woman from the biggest loser.The idea is 20 mins a day for 30 days so can lose up to 20 pounds. Have a look at the thread,its very interesting.Im on day 2 aching like buggery but i love it especially as i was warned not to do it so soon after baby and i can!! Give it a go,its only about 5 pounds from play and even if you dont lose weight it really kickstarts your fitness.

High!

Had a day of cleaning then meeting 2 (childless) friends today, was very nice but can't believe how late it is already. Actually, can't believe I think 9.15pm is late nowaday

deb I am guessing 18 weeks. And I don't bf but am still at the 1%, wow. Was it you that said you have family in Loughborough (sorry can only see this page) Let us know next time you're in the area!

ledkr is the shred worth doing even if you don't do it every day then? Am quite tempted, I like either chilled out exercise like yoga or really knackering exercise where you can feel it the next day so might be good for me. Not that I;m a fitness fan by any stretch of the imagination Hope Dilly-o sleeps well tonight.

emski glad your hv was useful, maybe you will have to let your dh learn for himself. I was a bit funny about leaving dp with dd but then had to think - "whats the worst thing that can happen?" And he'll definitely learn when faced with crying baby - he'll have to! Wishing you a really good sleep tonight, you deserve it

Elle if you do go to baby show will you report back?! Sounds like it could be good, or a nightmare full of other peoples screaming babies

Can't see other messages cos you've all been so busy chatting so sorry if I missed anyone :) Heres to a nice big sleep everyone

WTF?! 20lbs in a month? I've just ordered it from Amazon. If I combine this and Weightwatchers I assume I will be a skinny Minnie in a mere fortnight!

ledkr Hope D settles down properly and is just pretending to regress. I'm now paranoid about this 4 month regression lark. R is such a good sleeper we would have a massive shock.

Debka I reckon the average weaning age is 16 weeks. I'd be surprised if it was more than that. In going to try and hold out until R's at least 5 months. Need to get her sleeping in her own room first. One major milestone at a time is quite enough for me!

ponyo I hadn't factored in other people's babies. If I do go I'll be going on my own more as something to do (obviously the NEC is just down the road). If it's a nice day we won't bother - we can just walk in the park and glare at dog lady instead!

I think the whole point is that its short time but every day but some dont.
Im stil debating the own room thing,esp as she is at the mo,im wondering if it will make her sleep better or she will still be regressing and ill have to move further to see to her.
I went to the baby show last yr when pg,I took Ella.It was nice but just lots of shops really oh yeah and Mylene Klass she was everywhere i tell you. It was massive and i didnt get that many freebies apart from lots of chocolate as me and dd kept walking past,I got the coach up and couldnt buy much cos of carrying. It did turn into a big saga as wiggles and reastie will remember,i missed coach and had to wlak miles and miles with spd then cab it to victoria and tantrum my way onto a coach which was coming home the really long way and it was packed and an old fart wouldnt move to let me sit by dd -god it was a nightmare

i had the best sleeper on here do you think im being punished.

Christ Ledkr remember that, when was that? I can't believe I was pregnant with Anna almost a year ago, know we were saying that they'll be a Feb 2012 thread soon but I need time to slow down a little, I'm already finding it hard to believe Sofia will be 6 in June and she's already nearly done 2 years of primary school

Anna has started screaming demanding that she be allowed to sleep on her tummy, Sofia was exactly the same Mr W was off today and we had one of those days where we got loads done, silly arsey things but have that lovely feeling of satisfaction. He's watching the Apprentice on catch up, I am cringing on the sofa, I can't watch real people on tv, I get too scundered for them .

I'll guess 16 weeks too, because we've had family suggest I give him baby rice at 8 weeks "to help him sleep".

Hopefully we'll all have a peaceful night tonight. L ate more than usual tonight and was fussy while bfing which usually means he's hungry. Crossing my fingers that he's satisfied for a while and not going to wake in an hour!

it's not just dilly ledkr after a week of freya sleeping half 7 till half 6 then back off till 9, last night was horrendous every 2 hours she woke and dh slept through all the muttered curses and elbows to the ribs. She has fed so much and has just woken for another feed after going down at 8. Dh doesn't even offer to feed her and is sat downstairs watchin comedy gala which i wanted to watch and finish my crochet giraffe. We still haven't done the deed and he wonders why i say i'm tired. I swear sometimes men just don't think. Twat.

Posting from phone but you lot talk too much for me to write to individuals so it's all me me me for now until i charge the netbook

Hello, I reckon 13 weeks or sooner, (though not in this house) Have just had a 3 day catch up on all the happenings. DH has been away for 3 weeks so no time for MN, he is now back reading stories , changing nappies & washing up, (nothing like guilt !)

ah yes ledkr - I remember the baby show trauma well . Didn't you lose something you bought there too?

I have no idea what av weaning age is - but now it's really annoying me and I'm desperate to know . I honestly thought besfore I looked into it more that everyone waited until 6 months a la NHS advice, so all this weaning at 4 months (or even earlier if ledkr style) is all new to me. If I'm honest I'm really quite :( that alice will soon be having real food and not just milk - not a tiny baby any more .

Scundered, what a great word. You have a super vocabulary wiggles

How was your night emski mine was dreadful for the record, so you're in good company

Hadn't heard of the shred but may have to buy it! That sounds great, 20lbs in a month! I have lost a few pounds this week, not sure exactly as am resisting the urge to weigh myself EVERY day a la Bridget Jones.

Right hav to go and get boys ready for the preschool drop off. I know what you mean about time flying by wiggles my ds1 has one more half a term at preschool and then it's the big guns in Sept and ds2 will start preschool. Half of me can't wait for the break and the other half doesn't want them to get big too quickly

Got distracted from RL and had a look at shred DVD. Omg! The reviews were all brilliant so have ordered it!!

Mikey has a cold as so now have a snotty boob. Sorry if you're eating brekkie

40Weeks Scundered = being embarrassed but in a working class Belfast way , also "hitting a redner" . Anna snuffy and snuffly past few days but nothing has appeared. Its so strange they started reading properly this year in school and one week Sofia could sort of read and then the next week she was reading away, I will admit to crying profusely Of course the downside is the flipping robots etc you have to build out of cardboard boxes, start collecting those cereal boxes now

I nosyed at the Shred on Amazon last night too, think I might order it, so it can gather dust beside Davina.

Mr W overindulged on the old wine last night, can't decide whether to make him suffer and get him to change Annas' nappy or whether to smile beatifically and make some tea

Emski hope you got some peace to rest x

Morning, I'm another one who is going to order the shred today, a fiver on play so even if it does sit gathering dust I won't feel bad :)

I'm tired today and didn't have too bad a night last night, heres hoping emski and ledkr aren't feeling too bad this morning. ledkr you are not being punished, I worry about that too as dd has been pretty good with her sleep, I worry I don't "deserve" such a luxery of good sleep

I have been googling 4 month sleep regression like a madwoman which is daft, its not helping is it. Am a bit confused as to whether I should try and stop swaddling before then, or carry on as it might help, etc etc

wiggles have you gone for tea or nappies for Mr W?

Where is deb anyway I want to know the answer to the weaning q and find out who wins a prize

High all

ledkr how was Dills last night? Maybe if you get her to do the Shred too she might sleep longer

So you lot are obviously not as naive as me- I was tres when my friend posted a pic of her 15mo eating banana on FB. I thought most people actually did as govt said and waited till 6mo! No- 51% of mums start weaning at 3.8mo- I guess that's about 15wks so Mama Ledkr wins the prize :)

I knew nothing about this 4mo sleep regression when I had Imy, and she didn't regress, so step away from google, ignorance is bliss!

Morning ladies, Ohh think i might buy the shred too! Just popping on to say hi, hope everyone is ok.

deb I was same as you exactly - thought everyone followed govt advice re: 6 month thing. Defo made me about when to start weaning alice.

Hi jane was wondering where you were... sounds a bit stalker-y... glad you're ok :)

reastie TBH I don't think it really matters all that much. 51% of babies aren't ill or whatever from their 'early' weaning, I'll wait till 6mo because I do BLW and they can't really before then. And I'm lazy!