Crawling, sitting, standing..... any Olympians in the midst? ;)

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Newmum Sorry to hear about you sfil! A very very sad time. Mixed emotions of relief & grief make it so much harder. Thinking of you all!

I have a summer sleeping bag. I've no idea where I got it from but its not even togged! Its just like tshirt material with poppers up the front. I can't bring myself to not put him in anything, I always wake up in the early hours a bit chilly!

So it would appear that Olly pulling himself up this morning wasn't the 1st time. I was telling my friend he'd done it and she'd seen him do it on fri but thought he had been so didn't say anything! Wierd tho cos I've just looked in ds1s book & he 1st pulled himself up on the 24th June. Friday was the 24th!

Its very noisy here tonight. I live about a mile away from Waddington airbase & its the airshow this coming weekend. The planes are all practising. Don't they know my babies are trying to sleep???

I don't do that SeaChelles but anything that I do for a week would be the normal hours the child would come that week so would be 6 days. What are they for (just being nosey really!)?

Ah nothing yet cinammon - just wondering whether the two weeks would save me 10 days worth of pennies or 6! I think it will prob be just the 6 days too, but hey you never know!

banana and others who said about sleepwear.... I put Olly down in a short sleeved vest anda 1.0 tog tonight, however he just went down in the nappy and 1.0 tog yesterday. But is a whoel three degrees cooler tonight....so far! I find he has to have something on to hold his nappy in place or he leaks - I think he is like Mummy and wriggles all night long.

I slept on DP's side of the bed last night under the fan....ah bliss....DP was not amused!

I've packed Olly's bag for tomorrow and made my lunch....is all sooo real now!

I say three full days cinammon - however I may end up at night school or on courses one day a week for a while....not sure whether or !

I mean why are they charging 50% for two weeks? I always say that's it I'm not doing anymore courses (apart from those I need to keep Ofsted happy) but I end up doing more. I enjoy learning but it takes up so much time when you have a family!!

Oh sorry cinammon - Um I dunno - its just something that she does for the kids she has. Its £28 a day and then she gives every kid two weeks holiday a year where the parents only have to pay 50% for the child not being there.

No charge at all of course when SHE goes away on hols or for the week or so that they shutdown for Xmas. Pretty good all in all as the nursery we were going for didn't give you any time at 50%. Every little helps....cos we are going to be broke broke broke.....

Yeah not keen on the courses myself to be honest - but it will give me a great qualification to take away with me when I want to move on.

Am having peanut MnM's and a glass of babysham before bed....hehehe. Yes am 24 going on 70.....

Just butting in on the childminding conversation. When ds1 was with the childminder any holidays I took she charged me 50% so I guess she's basically saying that you can have 2 weeks holiday at 50%, any other time you take him out is charged at full price. I would also say that its 6 days as thats the time he's in there. Just basing that on usual holiday rules!

I used to charge 50% for full time children if it was a full week but I have stopped as I am still here and nurserys charge full fee. I don't charge for my holiday which is a hard enough loss to cope with. Even the preschool I'm on the committee of charge full fee if the child doesn't attend. I think you have to be competitive in your area rather than what you think is fair!

Do you give yourself any paid holiday cinnamon??? I know my childminding agreement was with a friend (she registered especially to have ds1) so we agreed on everything together but the way a saw it was I get paid for my holidays, as does dh & every other working person so why shouldn't she?! I get 8 weeks a year so as 4 weeks is the usual she had 4 weeks paid then the other 4 I had I paid a 50% retainer fee.

Newmum Sorry about your sfil. Am glad he managed to get home. My gran died in hospital and all she asked in the last few days was to go home.

Sassy she definitely had a nappy on so don't panic, although it was bone dry when I got up. I put a vest on her last night which was a good idea as it got chilly. She snuggled upto me in the early hours to get warmer.

Lucy is pulling herself up all the time now and is wanting to 'waddle' across the floor holding onto her hands. I have bought her some daisy roots Although I wish I had done it through Amazon as they are a bit cheaper

I charge for bank holidays and don't work them bananacurry both otherwise if I'm not avaliable I don't charge so that includes holiday, my sickness and my children's sickness if parents chose not to send their children because of it. I ahve had 2 days off sick in 3 years childminding so not bad! The thing is if I'm on holiday parents may have to find an alternative which they will have to pay for so I don't think it's fair to charge them.

Luke has some crawling shoes Debs75 but he really needs cruisers now as he's pulling himself up and cruising around as well as walking holding fingers but the best thing for early walking is bare feet anyway so I only bought them to save his socks while out and about!

I've done the same cinnamon with the shoes. Orlaith's got some cruisers now, I partly got them to save her socks getting dirty and stop her feet getting scratched all the time, but also because she kept being on her tip toes. I've read and heard from others that if they have tight hamstrings they tip toe a lot and then that keeps their hamstrings tight IYSWIM and apparently shoes help them learn to put their feet down more. I've got really tight hamstrings no matter how much yoga I do and find it really annoying so I was hoping it might help her. She doesn't wear them much though.

I went out last night at is was so nice to be out with friends, especially friends who have children and don't think I'm incredibly boring when I talk babies!

I'm the same Cinnamon I hate shoes on babies that don't walk. my rl friend buys her babies little nike trainers when they are 3 months old,yuck. These 'shoes' are really soft and non-restrictive. TBH I've only got them because we are going to my dsis's 40th and will be outside and I know I will get loads of comments about her having no shoes.

When I changed Lucy's nappy this morning it had a red stain in it, it wasn't a wet stain more powder like. Is this what happens when they get dehydrated?

cinnamon I think its rotten that you don't get paid holidays when everyone else does. I can see why parents wouldn't want to pay (although I did!) but the government should or someone.

Debs I've never heard of that. I would say its definately not a sign of dehydration. Could it be something she ate??

Banana she has since done a red poo, too much fruit from yesterday so maybe that was it

It's annoying as a holiday costs a lot more than the actual cost of the holiday!! That's the way it goes being self employed I guess, no-one pays beaditAli if she has a week off making jewellery.

Quick chicken pox question, do all the spots scab? Ds1 has quite a few scabs and his spots that haven't popped are a lot less red. Was planning to send him back to school Thursday but I think he may be ok tomorrow judging by how quickly spots have dried out over night last night.

Cinnamon from what i remember you are contagious for a while after the spots have come out so check first. Is he uncomfortable? DS was fine with the first lot but really poorly with the 2nd lot

I don't think they do all scab, some that don't actually blister just go down. It takes 5-7 days usually. I always think how I would feel if I was the other parent. If you'd be happy then there's no real reason why they shouldn't be. has Luke shown any signs??

I've had a lovely evening with Olly. He crawled over my legs and off to the tele so I grabbed his ankles & dragged him back over. He did it again so I draged him back again. The 3rd time he crawled over then promptly lay flat on his tummy waiting for me to drag him back! This went on for ages. He was laughing his head off. Its the 1st time he's played like that!

Newmum hope you're all ok.

Dh says he still looks awful bananacurry but my understanding is that once they've scabbed they are not contagious and they actually look worse when they are scabby than before so he's going to look awful!! I prefer him home but he really wants to go, maybe I'll give us another days rest!! He's fine during the day Debs75 but hasn't been happy at night, I gave him piriton last night but don't know if he was better because he wasn't itchy or because I knocked him out!

So cute about Olly bananacurry, Luke put his first stacking cup on another this afternoon and I was so excited!! He's been stroppier than normal today so maybe he'll be spotty soon too, suppose it depends of he got it from whoever ds1 did or from ds1 how soon his spots will come. I know bf gives some protection but don't know how much when it's only 3 feeds a day.

Glad you had a nice time saoirse86 :)

Well, not a bad day at work all in all. Lots of setting things up and reading procedures. Big headache now...!

Olly seemed to have a good day. Only managed a couple of half hour naps - so missed out on about 1.5 hours of normal daytime sleep, so not hopeful for a good night tonight. He also wouldn't drink his bottles - only had a couple of ounces from each. Wonder why that was? He took them ok from her last week.

Was lovely to see him when I got home.

Arrrrgh! Everything goes straight into his mouth! Grass, paper, twigs.... Everything! But no, not the toothbrush

ha mapletrees. perhaps you should just causally lie it on the floor behind him!
im having a nightmare with jacob at the minute. its been going on for about a week or so. it started with 2 nights in a row where he woke up screaming. i rubbed his back and he would do a few burps (this isnt unusual) but instead of going back down he carried on screaming, so wary of waking isobel and having 2 screaming babies i took him into bed with me. usually if he lies on me he will settle but he was wriggling and drawing legs up with intermitten sleeping all night. from then on he has woken every night. now though i cant be sure if its habit or trapped wind again. i cut out beans and eggs as he seemed to be worse on the days he had these and he did seem easier to settle for next few days. last 2 nights i have had to do the dreaded controlled crying and he settled himself last night after i only got up once. (didnt pick him up, just rubbed his back for a few seconds and then made him lie back down) just put him to bed at 7.30 and he is screaming for the 2nd time now. been up to him once. he did do about 8 burps. any suggestions? my mum says gripe water but surely he should be past that now. i seem destined to have children with digestive problems!

I would have thought he was too old for that kind of wind too sassy34264. Luke quite often burps if he's been crying as I think he just swallows air while he's crying. He's had a couple of night we he just cried, I fed him and he was fine while feeding but as soon as he stopped sucking cried again. Nothing stopped him crying other than feeding but as I soon as I put him downhe started again. Both times I took him downstairs and turned the tv on, he just laid back on me and watch tv, he never just lays on me! After a while he started rubbing his eyes and ear so I took him up put him in his cot and he went straight off to sleep. No idea why it happened, why that worked or if it will again! Babies are strange sometimes but as they can't tell us what's up we just have to try and do what we can when they cry. Luke is so different to ds1 so very often I feel I'm doing it all for the first time!!

Sassy I'd maybe give gripe water a try just to rule it out as it can't do any harm but grace sometimes wakes up for what seems like no reason. Could the heat be affecting him. I know I've been tossing and turning for the last coiuple of nights as I just can't get comfy!

Quick question re routine again. Since grace can now sit up from lying down putting her down for naps is becoming bloody impossible as the second I leave her room she just sits up in her cot and screams and I'm finsing myself having to do controlled crying again! I think some of the problem might be that she's not tired enough for a sleep and I might have to re jig her routine. She sleeps from 7pm - 6.30am and then sleeps from about 9ish to 10.30ish and from 2pm - 3pm but ishe doesn't seem tired at 2 so I'm thinking if I let her just have an hour in the morning she might sleep better in the afternoon? How much sleep do everyone's lo's have and spread over how many naps?

Thanks for all the kind messages from everyone about sfil. Mil is being so bloody strong I don't know how she's coping at all! The funeral is on monday and my lovely sister has taken the day off work to look after grace so we can be there for mil all day!

i think its a mixture of trapped wind and just habit for sure now. its just so bloody hard to know when it is which. last night he woke 3 times before 10pm (bed at 7.30) on the 3rd time i brought him down cos i was trying to watch baby hospital as a lad i use to work with -dean- was on it. so sad, we still have mutual friends and i knew he had lost 1 triplet but i was unaware he had lost the little boy. anyway, he fell asleep on me and i took him back up. about 20mins later screaming again, decided to give it up as a bad job and go to bed. picked him up and rubbed on his back and then put him down, he went to start screaming again but when he saw that i was getting into bed rather than going downstairs he stopped little sod argh. i do think the belly ache is waking him up but he wants the cuddles in bed or on me now cos ive done it too much. he keeps waking about 4/5ish every morning as well and i have to jump up if i dont want 2 babies to deal with and he inevitable spends an hour or two in bed with me every mornong at minute. cant be doing this when new one comes! i think when chloes room is finished in 2 weeks time and she moves out of babies room, i will just put isobel in and work on jacob in my room.
newmum isobel stands up every time i put her down in the cot and cries like her hearts breaking. my mum cant stand it and i have to tell her 'walk away' otherwise she would be rocking her to sleep and making a rod for my back! she doesnt cry for long though, and as usually stopped after 2mins. i hate it though, i wonder why if she goes in 3 times a day, that it upsets her sooooo much? its a mystery. i looked into naps as mine are having 2 a day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon and i was wondering if they would be at the point to have just one, but apparently its around 18months when their ready- obviously everyone is different.
my rountine is
up- 6.30
nap- 9.30/10
nap-2/3
bed-7.30
how long they sleep is usually dependent on jacob! he is more than likely to only have 30mins. it has been known alrhough very rarely for them to sleep an hr and a half. if its getting on a bit ie, nearly 4 i will wake them up as they wouldnt sleep for night time. i think mine need at least 3 hours up or they are just not tired.

Luke is being a pain too newmum001, if we are home he sleeps for 2 1/2hrs in the morning 9.30-12 but if we are out he will only sleep 30-40mins which is much better as he will then go back to sleep in the afternoon with no probs. If he sleeps for a long time in the morning he used to fall asleep on school run but he is now still awake when we get back at 3.45-4 but will have milk sometime between 4 and 5 and fall asleep then. If he doesn't there is no way he will stay awake to eat dinner and who knows what time he'd be up in the morning if he went to bed later, he's already up 5.30-6 every morning! He used to go no more than 3 hrs between naps but it is stretching out now. Ds1 dropped his morning nap around 10 months and then just had 2hrs in the afternoon. BUT as you say they are all different as he still had a nap at almost 4 which is pretty rare.