The CRESH Creche and Spa - future home of all ESH

[Muser]

I liked the CRESH acronym more than FESH so have used it. Welcome all ESH to your final stop on the journey. Rest your aching lady bits, try one of the many gin based cocktails, and try to molest the gorgeous waiting staff.

Muse why would you reprogramme? Sounds lovely! Clint did lie in sometimes, I either lay in too or was able to have a shower and breakfast in peace. But lie-ins were my fave. Clint is too eager to get up and play these days....

Okes just noticed your 9mo potty comment, would love to try, Clint tends to poo when sat in the bumbo...or, if Daddy is doing bathtime, in the bath....so I think he likes pooing in a sitting position. He pooed in the baby pool at swimming yesterday and it floated out of the swim nappies...oh the shame. Luckily I wasn't there. But we can never go back. I think we will have to move. Poor TSF mortified.

I'm like a bus....Sitting on sofa with coffee, TSF making baby food, Clint napping. Hooray for weekends!

It's just a bit awkward doing anything. I suppose because I don't think about waking up before her. I guess if I did then we'd be ready to start the day. But I am always so tired I sleep through.

And I would like her to bring her bedtime forward a bit. Just so I could have some me time before falling asleep myself.

Muse, Clint slept 9-5 until about 3.5mo and when he went to his own room his bedtime naturally crept forward. I was just so glad to be getting sleep at night I didn't do anything to facilitate this, so I can't help with strategies, I just went the lax parenting baby led way. But in my experience, it self-corrected.

I have horribly dry hands. Crunchy. What can I do more than hand cream applying when I think of it?

I might just have to get myself up then. It'll be interesting to see if she still does it during the week when her dad is waking up for work anyway. If she does, I will get up and get ready. Will make showering a lot easier! Prospect of her going into her own room is about zero, as "her" room really doesn't have space for her. And I am too lazy to get out of bed to feed her when she wakes up.

For scaly hands, wear gloves when doing washing up. Switch your handsoap to something gentler. Apply handcream a lot. At night you can slather on tons of handcream and then put cotton gloves over the top if you want to be very poncey.

muse could you try bringing bedtime forward, doing a dreamfeed later without walking her. Hoping she then sleeps to somewhere between 6 and 7. Then get her up, and do feed, activity (which can be nappy change, washed and dressed, then some play) and then back to sleep after and hour or two awake, depending on how much she can handle. Then you have some you-time. And if you can get yourself ready while she's awake (pop her on bathroom floor or whatever), you might both be ready to go out for the day just as she needs her first morning nap: which she can have in the sling, pram or cot, according to what you have planned that day. If I am not going out I wait until that nap to have a nice long shower etc. Or even to go back to bed myself it it's been a tough night. That's a routine we got into from fairly early on, and it can be used when I am working or off.

not walking, waking!

silv I do know what you mean about feeding in public as they're getting bigger - you just can't be a subtle as when they're tiny. Aint going to stop me doing it mind, I am just awaiting dirty looks!

I went out on team night out on Thurs and got proper trolleyed. So much so that when Artie woke at 4 for a feed, I made TGO give him the ebm in the fridge as I didn't dare feed him, that's never happened before.

Had fab day out yesterday on mountain bike with a load of girls :)

Agree with VAG arties bed time just gradually got earlier and earlier.

I have never been able to bring her bedtime forward Casp. And she still only reliably naps in the sling, so we have to be ought for that first nap. I've just about got her sleeping in her buggy for the morning nap. But never ever in the house. She just doesn't nap in the house.

Ought? Out!

sorry if that's no use then. We relied on an evening nap in the cot or pram to eventually bring bedtime forward. The amount of time she was up for between that nap and her overnight sleep just got shorter, until eventually it was only long enough to feed her in her room. That became a dream feed and, just last month, a feed she dropped.

should add that we just followed her cues until about 5 months. She often stayed up until 10pm. But then my sanity slipped and I took action to get a sense of self back.

What time did you do the evening nap?

I am always jealous of the babies I meet when out in the day who have a feed and then fall asleep. Mine used to do that. Then she realised the world was fascinating and she just wants to stare at it.

yes, squeaks was like that. She woudn't feed unless in a quiet dark place with no stimulation. I hated all feeds except the ones when she was seriously knackered.

Naps were anytime between 5.30 and 7. Started as just when she fell asleep, but I gradually pushed it so it was closer to 7pm, which is what I wanted bedtime to be. And now is.

we also adopted a degree of the baby whisperer's eat, activity, sleep routine. The only feed that immediately preceeds sleep is her last one. And even that is given either side of bathtime. A few ounces before bath, then the rest in her room, before she's put down.

Oooo scorps has laid!

Wooo scorp n rocket!!!
hope we get news soon... Cluster lays are very much the ESH thing eh?

yo vag! yeah life has been getting in the way a bit. Been stupidly busy. Hoping to be around more now though,have missed y'all.

Can I have a quick sob please? Baby giant showing signs of teething, both kids have jabs tomorrow, I have to see dentist as I have a swollen face plus permanent headache which hints that summat is up with my teeth AGAIN... And mr gin left for That London this morning, will not be back until late wed night.

I'm feeling surprisingly weird n emotional about him being away. I mean, I coped when he was working til 9pm and every weekend until recently, so I can cope with this, yes? Maybe it's just cos we were so glad to have him back. And also my stupid face hurts. Someone hit me with something heavy please?

Oh has she

and relief sweeps through the ESH community! Fabulous

How's that my love? In your situation I would be feeling exactly the same so not sure you deserve violence.

Casp I have sort of been doing that routine too, although not for night sleep like you. And sometimes if I've not got her sorted for a nap in time I do a feed to calm her down more than anything. Sleep and babies is a tricky thing. I have heard from lots of people that their babies just magically started going to bed early so I am hoping for such magic.

Great news on the safe arrival of smallscorp :)

Thanks muse. He left at 9 this morning and I have been on the verge of tears ever since. Twat.

Am dreading getting both kids jabbed tomorrow. Maybe once we've got past that the rest will feel more survivable.

By the way I seem to have a baby that shifted his bedtime. Pretty much always between 8 and 9 now. Usually before 8.30. Various random exceptions tho.

We're still a bit all over the place with daytime sleep, partly because I'm not always quick to get him napping when he needs it as dealing with mooch too. Is weird though, moochy was a NIGHTMRE with sleep, this is soooo different.

Friend of mine has the same with her second gin. To the point where she says if her second had been her first, she would have just assumed she was a brilliant parent . As it is, she realises it's blind luck!

Zackly muse. I was worried it was all my soft hippy parenting that resulted in such bad sleep. Apparently not! This one sussed the idea of nightie really quickly, and I have been waiting for it all to go to shit ever since! In fact I have always been so sure about baybees needing to feed at night (mooch used to mostly wake every 1-3 hrs , then take about an hour to settle..) that I have actually panicked that maybe there is something wrong and he shouldn't sleep so well. But then I punched myself in the face and got over it :)

We just got mooch a clock that glows as a yellow nightlight from 'bedtime' til 'morning', then turns green. It works fucking brilliantly. Though I can often hear it saying 'it is 6.36am....it is 6.37am' etc as he keeps pressing the button to see what it says.