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November 05 Babies - They're here!

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rodeo1 · 01/11/2005 11:35

Well, some are here!

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rodeo1 · 10/11/2005 16:30

Looking forward to you joining us Twinkle! All the best for tomorrow!

Nova, It's the SMA Gold we use too, doesn't seem to smell as strong as some of the others. Wonder why the MW recommended it? Did she say?

Hammy, one bottle?! You lucky thing! I would
definitely be drunk on that! No chance though, not with the BFing. Hmph!

Right really must tidy up now, my house looks like a pigsty....

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rodeo1 · 10/11/2005 16:33

Just read your post again Nova - you mad woman you! I thought I remember you saying you were only having the one?! Or am I mistaken? Brill, Good on you lady! I'm only jealous...dreading when the Nov ladies get pg again, I'll be so broody!

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BEKsmum · 10/11/2005 17:28

Evening girls, just off out to Ben's parents evening so only a quickie

bloody hell Nova & I thought you were mad going for a waxing but another baby in 6 months time - Natalie really must be a dream baby!!!

I on the other hand asked about sterilisation today, the mw said wasn't it a bit soon to be thinking of this and wasn't I likely to change my mind and try for a girl - No, No, No!!! Two boys is my lot and that's a definite, she asked me about contraception too and I said abstinence as I have new born beside me and a 3.9 year old who can walk in whenever he feels like it - does nothing for the passion stakes!!!

Right got to go as Thomas is yelling, speak to you all later

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rodeo1 · 10/11/2005 19:58

Baby Update -

Rodeo's Jess 10/10/05 6lb12oz
Nova's Natalie 15/10/05 6lb13oz
Yingers's Isabelle 24/10/05 7lb4oz
Bek's Thomas 26/10/05 7lb13oz
Londoner's Elizabeth 29/10/05 7lb4oz
Laylamum's Seth 30/10/05 8lb7oz
Tex's Rosie 1/11/05 8lb4oz
Alfiesmum's Oscar 2/11/05 8lb14oz
Hamster's Euan 2/11/05 8lb8oz
Beartime's Caleb 4/11/05 8lb7oz
Diege's Liberty 7/11/05 7lb11oz
Tessasmum's Ash 7/11/05 8lb4oz
Jenjam's baby boy 7/11/05
Enthusia's Sam 9/11/05 8lb2oz

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rodeo1 · 10/11/2005 21:08

Just posteda thread on the feeding section and I think me and Jessie have thrush Bum! Nips a bit sore and get a funny 'pulling string' sensation when I feed her. She's also always had a white coating on her tongue which I thought was sicky milk Off to docs tomorrow for us then.

Saw your post Tessasmum about your sore boobs Hope they heal soon. Are they cracked or just sore? Have you got any lahnisoh cream? It's what I used and it's very good. Also my MW said to not to let them dry out, keep slapping the cream on as when they latch on they rip them open again. Horrid!

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ChaCha · 10/11/2005 22:02

Hiya gals,

Quick question about Arnica tablets. Which should i buy? I found 6c and 30c in Boots today and did not know what to get. Can they be prescribed? When should i start taking them and till when? Will they help with either vaginal birth or c-sec bruising..?

Thanks, love to all you mummies xxx

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starandsnowshaker · 10/11/2005 22:03

yay
Diege's Liberty 7/11/05 7lb11oz
Tessasmum's Ash 7/11/05 8lb4oz
Jenjam's baby boy 7/11/05
they were all born on my b-day they wil be very wonderfull children
congrats to all the babies and parents

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Londoner · 11/11/2005 10:29

Morning girls!

There just isn't time in the day is there! Nova you're exceptional....... I feel tired just reading about all the stuff you're getting up to, you r unstppable r u not? It's really lovely to hearabout all ur news in fact, I look forward 2 more [smie].
Things gr8 here, Elizabeth slept from 11pm-5.30am! So fantastic! Looking forward 2 more of that! Washable nappies fantastic, only 1 leak so far = less washing (as no pee/poo on clothes)....also I never run out of nappies!
Taking family to Colchester this weekend to see ParentsIL, will be our first whole family outing, will be like 'The Walton Family/Partridge Family" I think, lol!

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rodeo1 · 11/11/2005 12:27

Wow that is a good night Londoner! Jess seems to be waking every 4 hours at night (but wants feeding every 2 hour in the day! ) which seems way easier even though it'd just an extra hour!

Well, me and Jess do have thrush Just back from the nurse. I've got cream for my nips and she's got drops for her mouth - just given her some and she seems to love them! Was expecting her to scream!

Right have a mountain of clothes to put away!

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Londoner · 11/11/2005 18:49

Hey rodeo! LOL at you & mountain of clothes, cleared mine today too...... although of course a new mountain will be in wash basket by morning , heeey life's not dull with piles of kids to look after is it!
Aren't new babies so cuuuuuute! And tis really gr8 to have older kids to entertain baby while I quickly rush & put in wash or something & it's so lovely to see them all interact isn't it? So sorry to hear about yr thrush....ouch.....v.impressed that you spotted it as so often we women just struggle on thinking things are just part & parcel of motherhood, when a visit to the dr, dentist etc can help drastically. Hope you're both better v.soon, & you feel some relief from sore nips quickly. Well done, I'm always really impressed by women who respect & look after themselves, it's a real skill.

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novadandypowder · 12/11/2005 00:29

I love my DD sooooo much. Having a gooey moment which is quite easy when she's sleeping and DH is doing the night shift.

Still getting gifts coming through the post for her - she's got more clothes than me!!! I love choosing which outfit she's going wear in the morning, although you can be pretty sure that at least one item is going to be pink.

The HV suggested giving her a small amount of cooled boiled water during the day and that seems to have settled her a bit more, although it is still early days. She slept from 10 - 2.30 last night but because I'm so used to her waking at 1, I woke up and kept looking at her, waiting for her to stir. She still wakes for a feed twice at night but the gaps are getting longer as she's taking more food.

Anyway, must use this time for sleep not MN!

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beartime · 12/11/2005 11:32

Hi everyone! It's funny how there's less to read on this thread than the last one - we're not bored anymore

Is anyone doing the Baby Whisperer routine? What is it turning out like for feeding times? I was wondering with mine, he seems to sleep so much while feeding - I have to change his nappy, burp him, take his sleepsuit off, give him to DH, all to wake him up to get any food. But then last night he went for 5hrs between feeds (fed at 10:30 then he slept till 3:30) and at the middle of the night feed he fed for 35 mins without me doing any of that stuff. So I'm wondering if maybe I shouldn't be waking him up every 3 hrs for feeds as much cos he's too sleepy, maybe let him go longer - after all he was a biggish baby - what d'you think?

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rodeo1 · 12/11/2005 11:59

Morning!

The weekend again! Just going through a few mail order catalogues for Xmas Pressies seeing as dd1 made me realise it's only 6 weeks til Christmas and I've done nothing!! Panic stations!

Beartime - Are you mad? You are contemplating waking him in the night to feed him?! If he's going 5 hours then that's brill. Wake him in the day if you feel it's necessary but I'd let him sleep at night. Not doing the Baby Whisperer routine, but if he is a biggish baby then maybe he can take more milk which make's him go longer. If he's instigating a routine himself then I'd go by him rather than Tracey, but that's my opinion I think Nova's reading it, she may be able to give advice too but it seems you and him are doing really well!!

Right going to see if there's been anymore announcements!!

Have to say I'm getting really quite fast at this one handed typing!!

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tessasmum · 12/11/2005 16:04

Made it!!

I keep just about getting the time to catch up with the days goings on and then don't have time to post.
It would help if I could sit at my computer but futon is still out in office/spare room as DH says I'm still snoring and he keeps disappearing in the middle of the night! This means the only access to the computer is kneeling on the end of the futon and I can't do that, bf and type.

We have been getting on fine here though someone did seem to want to feed every 2 hours last night. Don't think he can believe his luck as my milk came in on Thursday night, think he just had to keep checking that it was still on tap
Bf really surprised me this time round. I had expected to know all about it and as Ash certainly knew what to do (he fed 3 times in 2 1/2 hours of being born) I didn't expect any problems. WRONG! I hadn't been getting him latched on properly so got pretty sore. Once I'd gone back to basics, re-read all the leaflets etc, got the midwife to have a look at what I was doing and started doing it right things have got better. Now my toes only curl up when he latches on and that should sort itself out in a day or two. Moral of this story is, if it isn't working, get help asap.

I'm with Rodeo on the sleeping Beartime, if he is sleeping that long at night leave him. Most of the time babies know what they are doing, they just have to get the message across to us!

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beartime · 12/11/2005 19:53

sorry I must have explained it wrong - I am leaving him at night to wake up on his own - but waking him in the day, cos they say not to go longer than 3 hrs between feeds, so have been waking him. But he seems really sleepy in the day so that's why I'm wondering if I should leave it longer - maybe 4hrs b4 I wake him during the day. Actually today I tried it, and still had to wake him after 4 hrs!!! Maybe he'll keep me up all night now If I was waiting till he woke I dread to think how long he'd sleep for!


When they are this young (1 week old) if it takes an hour to feed, burp and change his nappy (I'm not that efficient at it yet!) then how long would they normally be awake for afterwards? I missed his cues today I think when I gave him to my parents to cuddle after his feed, and he got overtired and then cried for an hour I just want an idea of how long they stay awake for b4 getting overtired at this age? I am finding it hard to suss this overstimulating stuff

Oooooooh he just woke up - 10 mins to four hours after his last feed!

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novadandypowder · 13/11/2005 11:20

Hi Beartime

I have been studying (oo get me!) the baby whisperer, but I'm not following it particularly religiously. It may be a bit different for me as I only got the book when Nat was 3 wks so haven't been able to set up a routine from the beginning. What we did do from the beginning though is write down all the feeding times like she does in her chart, and from that we got quite a clear picture of how much and how often she's feeding.

She seems to have settled herself into a 3-4 hour routine, in some ways aided by us. I find it useful to note feeding times because then when she cries we've got more of an idea why (ie: if she only fed an hour ago we know it can't be hunger/dirty nappy etc..).

I don't make her stay awake for a set time after feeding like the BW does - if she wants to sleep I let her sleep. However, I don't let her sleep past 4 hours after the last feed, but by then she's usually hungry anyway. I also make her wait if she starts fussing and showing the hunger signs before 3 hours, she can usually be pacified for up to an hour when she starts. As your babe is only a week old, he's only just sorting out this sleeping/feeding lark, and I think they're more sleepy for a week after birth anyway.

As for reading the signs - that will only come with practice, I'm beginning to be able to notice them now. The only thing we need to work on is getting her to sleep on her own in the day, she's quite used to sleeping in my arms, so i'm using the BW technique of pick up, comfort, put back down, for as long as it takes for her to go to sleep. This worked quite well for getting her to sleep in her basket at night.

At the end of the day, he's only this small for a very short time, so please enjoy your baby, spoil him if you want, it will all work itself out later. Don't be too hung up on a strict routine this early, sometimes that can cause more stress. Also, trust your instinct, mummy's do know best!!!

Sorry, this has turned out a bit long, hope it's offered some kind of help? Personally, I'm not expecting Nat to sleep through the night yet as she's only 4wks old, and I think it helps to resign yourself to that fact, otherwise you end up resenting them when they don't. She goes down from 10 - 12.30(ish) feeds goes down, feeds again at 5(ish) goes down, then is up at about 8.30(ish).

One last thing - honest - babies cry, they need to cry, they will cry, please don't think that because you've 'missed his cues' you've upset your baby. I'm sure it meant a lot more to your parents to be able to cuddle him, then if you'd whipped him away for sleep time. Nat quite often has what we call 'scream time', but we know it won't harm her, or last more than an hour.

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tex111 · 13/11/2005 13:30

Hi gals!

Rodeo, thanks for including me on the list and providing the link to our pic. I've been dying to come on and say hi but things have been crazy here.

We've hardly had any sleep and it hasn't been Rosie that's been keeping us up. It's been Toby. He got some kind of throat infection and we had to take him to casualty twice, then to the doctor's twice because we discovered he's allergic to pennicillin. Good lord, what a time we've had. Looks like things are settling down a bit now.

Very interested to read your remarks about lochia. I was starting to become concerned about mine. I think I've blocked it all out after Tobes but I'm reassured that a lot of you guys are still dealing with it too. My tummy has gone down a lot faster than it did with Tobes but I've been taking arnica and I think that's really made a difference to my healing.

We've ended up with bottles after four days of breast feeding at the hospital. I very bossy midwife took Rosie off for a midnight bottle to calm her one night and Rosie lost interest in the breast after that. I probably could've got her back on breast milk but I was just too tired. It's worked out well though. Mom and Dad could feed her while I had to take care of Toby when he was ill.

Mom and Dad left yesterday and J is back at work Monday so tomorrow is my first day alone with the kiddos. Feeling a little nervous but I think we'll just hang out here and hopefully we'll all three survive the day.

Very impressed with you guys that have started a routine. I'm hoping to get us back on a somewhat even keel this week. I read the BW's toddler book and really liked her approach but I haven't read the baby version. Will have to look out for it. I do play it by ear for the most part though, especially the first few months. We ended up co-sleeping with Toby simply because he would sleep through the night in our bed so we all got a lot more sleep that way. It was really lovely too. Nothing like having that tiny warm body snuggle into you in the night. Don't know how it'll work with Rosie yet. Guess we'll just wait and see where she sleeps best.

OK, going to try to get some lunch together. Hope you're all well!

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beartime · 13/11/2005 18:19

Hi Nova - that was really helpful, and seems like it might work well for us to try not letting him go beyond 4hrs but not b4 3. I'll have to see what it turns out like

And the crying thing was reassuring too - we had a 'scream time' this morning!

I may try writing feed times down etc. to get an idea as well.

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goldenoldie · 13/11/2005 18:26

Nice to see you all again on this side.

I had two boys at 36 weeks on 11.11. Both coming in at 6lb, 6 - 8oz. No names as yet................

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twinkle1 · 13/11/2005 19:00

yoo hoo, congrats golden oldie
just to say hi and officaialy join the post natal group, Joshua william arrived on 11/11/05 at 12.50.He has strawberry blonde hair and blue eyes,he weighed in at 6lb 7oz
twinkle

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novadandypowder · 13/11/2005 20:03

welcome to the new mummies .

i enjoy my dd more and more, i like it now she's a bit more alert during waking hours.

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rodeo1 · 13/11/2005 21:03

Rodeo's Jess 10/10/05 6lb12oz
Nova's Natalie 15/10/05 6lb13oz
Yingers's Isabelle 24/10/05 7lb4oz
Bek's Thomas 26/10/05 7lb13oz
Londoner's Elizabeth 29/10/05 7lb4oz
Laylamum's Seth 30/10/05 8lb7oz
Tex's Rosie 1/11/05 8lb4oz
Alfiesmum's Oscar 2/11/05 8lb14oz
Hamster's Euan 2/11/05 8lb8oz
Beartime's Caleb 4/11/05 8lb7oz
Diege's Liberty 7/11/05 7lb11oz
Tessasmum's Ash 7/11/05 8lb4oz
Jenjam's baby boy 7/11/05
Enthusia's Sam 9/11/05 8lb2oz
Twinkle's Joshua 11/11/05 6lb7oz
Goldenoldie's baby boy 1 & baby boy 2 11/11/05 6lb6oz & 6lb8oz

I've not missed anyone off the list have I??

Twinkle, have to agree with the others you both look lovely & Josh looks so cute! And he was born the same time as Jess at 12.50pm! But her birthdate is 10/10 not 11/11!! Cool hey?

Nova, maybe you should pen your own book!! You sound such an expert - loved your post! My thoughts exactly but you a lot more articulate than me.

We've been to a garden centre\working farm this afternoon to feed the animals. They had some lovely black bullocks which were my favourite and got a huge male pig who the kids loved but it was sooo cold! Returned to a lovely Sunday dinner so feeling quite content now. Dp engrossed in Top Gear at the mo, oooh could just do with a Ripple and a cuppa!



Right Lost is about to start! x x x

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beartime · 14/11/2005 08:01

Congratulations Golden Oldie and Twinkle!

By the way Twinkle - you were way better than my midwife when I was in labour - I said to her a few times that it was difficult to get in a good position and she didn't help suggest any, but just said every position will be uncomfortable!! So thanks for the help!

By BW definitions we have a touchy baby - have to catch him on the 1st or second yawn and put him down for a nap or he cries for an hour!

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novadandypowder · 14/11/2005 12:07

i think we have a spirited baby, with a bit of the touchy for good measure!

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tessasmum · 14/11/2005 15:00

Afternoon.
Dh has taken Tessa to Tumble Tots and Ash is asleep so I can get on here and catch up for a bit.

Not sure what BW would call him but we seem to have a laid-back one at the moment-cries if hungry or preceeding a poo explosion but otherwise is content to survey the world around him and look adoringly as big sister entertains him.
I remember watching BW programmes when Tessa was tiny and I really liked her approach - gentle and common sense. Haven't read the book but I'm following the discussions here with interest.

Tessa's experience of the birth is coming out a bit now, when I was getting her dressed this morning she sat with her legs apart looking at her bottom saying 'here comes the baby" then bringing it to me to hold! Its all very calm and matter-of-fact and that was the position I was in when she was brought down after Ash was born - sitting there waiting for the placenta to come out!

Seem to have got the bf sorted now, hardly even sore when he latches on anymore thankfully.
All I need to do now is to start leaving the house!! I think because the birth was all so smooth and easy I have really taken my time about getting back into the swing of everyday life, not wanting to screw up a really good experience by rushing around and trying to do too much. Hence I've been really lazy, let everyone come to me and am having a great time! Could really get used to it so this week I need to get moving a bit. Almost went to the park this morning but couldn't coordinate a toddler who didn't want to get dressed and a 1 week old who would be needing a feed. Must try again tomorrow

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