March 2010 - Babies: "Climbing like an evil genius". Mummies: "Avoiding the Shred DVD"

[Arcadie]

Welcome to those with a March 2010.
Happy Easter from me....
Unwrap it quick!..

Oh, it's a new thread. I was hoping for chocolate.

Fingers crossed for you Siamese :)

Oooh exciting stuff then Siamese

Fingers crossed for ya mate!

Lovely meeting with the Supervisor of Midwives yesterday to prepare my management plan :) She seemed even less concerned about my PPH risk than me, and she was very supportive of me wanting a physiological third stage to give myself more time to get the blasted placenta out this time. I was so prepared to have to battle to get support for a homebirth plan at the start and I am seemingly very lucky to have been massively shocked by the immediate support given by the MWs here

Baby is no longer coming arse first (hooray!) however I am measuring 3.5cm large. Allowing for 2cm extra 'normal' range, then that's still 1.5cm more than they'd expect, although she thinks there's a fair bit of fluid and this is a 'nice sized' baby . DD was a long bugger so I suspect that this one will be too.

I'm off for a growth scan on Monday, although I have to say I am not really that concerned in the slightest (it felt like she was measuring a bit too far down, rather than being quite at the top of the bone) but I've agreed to the scan just in case.

Then again, I know even they're not accurate so might not tell us much. Still, I didn't expect to see this one again until it was born so it's a chance to get another peek.

How are we all? Prepared for the next dumping of snow?

Huh? More snow you say? I do hope you're mistaken...

But great news on the meeting with the SoM! Are they prepared to let you go over 40+14 for a hb? I mean, I know ultimately, they can't exactly refuse you - but they can certainly advise. What say she?

She just said that if I got to 42w again then I'd be advised to speak to the consultant (to make sure I was aware of the risks) but that expectant management would be offered if I refused induction, and that it was really a case of how far was I prepared to go?

She said that she personally had delivered someone who was 20 days over, but I didn't think to clarify if she meant 40+20 or 42+20, because technically you're not over until 40+14 anyway.

She did say that I can effectively carry on with my HB plan until I am admitted to hospital for induction, so I suppose if I don't agree to induction, I can carry on with the plan and be supported in that. Induction is just another risk factor for PPH and retained placenta, so I've had no intention of agreeing to it since DD was born. If EM scans show a problem with baby or the placenta then I will refuse induction and consent to a CS.

If there's a problem then I can't see them saying if I won't induce then they'll sit on their hands and do nothing, and if they do then I will take that as meaning the problem isn't actually all that big IYSWIM?

It's left me feeling much more relaxed. Now I just need to get through the dentist this afternoon, ideal time to try out my hypnotherapy techniques!

Oh please no more snow.. although I think it was actually warmer when it snowed, and it's so cold now that I'm trying not to leave the house, but going a bit stir-crazy indoors. And how, how do you cope with morning sickness and a toddler? I feel horrible today and Cbeebies and Mickey's Clubhouse have picked up a lot of the slack I can't keep that up for 6 more weeks though. I'm sure morning sickness with Izzy wasn't this bad; I have got a cold though, so maybe that's exacerbating it.

Self-indulgent moaning over :) Really pleased you've found the MWs so supportive Fliss, the last thing you want in late pregnancy is to have to worry about fighting your corner. And surely the MW must have meant 40+20; 42+20 would be almost 45 weeks of pregnancy Hope the scan goes well next week. And good luck at the dentist!

How was Chez Bruce Manda? I've heard of it, vaguely, (possibly even on here) but never been.

Afternoon ladies

Manda of chez bruce - have never been but would love to go (though as it's sarf of the river tis a bit far from north london!).

MissP sorry to hear MS has kicked in - praise the lord for kids TV! I never really got MS, just nausea and tiredness, and I found this time that cycling (I was cycling to and from work until about 22/23 weeks) really helped me feel better - would last for a couple of hours and then I'd feel hungover/rough again. Hope it passes for you soon.

Fliss great news about the supportive SoM - I've found the more experienced the person the more supportive, though the consultant midwife at the birth centre did draw a very good sketch of the uterus, with the 3 different types of muscle, to graphically represent the risk of uterine rupture. She also said she thought I was mad to refuse CFM but was still v nice and supportive iykwim.

Flying visit as DS is napping and the house is a tip. We've been housebound for a few days, as he's had a vomiting bug with high temp. Though he's on the mend (no temp today) so will be off to the childminder's tomorrow as I have to go to work - 3 weeks til maternity leave and heaps to do was not ideal to have to take time off with a sick toddler this week!

Am 34 weeks tomorrow and baby was breech at the scan last Friday. I was quite stressed - instantly bought a hypnobirthing breech turn download and ordered moxa and did some of the crazy spinning baby tilts and inversions (causing much hilarity for DH - honestly, who would have thought lying on an ironing board while watching call the midwife could be so funny ).

Aaanyway, have decided to chill out about it. If baby turns, baby turns. I have a scan at 36 weeks to check. If baby's still breech, then I'll try an ECV and if that doesn't work then I'll give up my longed for birth centre vbac and have a c-section. Numbers are on my side (the percentages of babies breech at term are tiny) but I just don't want to spend my last weeks of pregnancy, and of DS being our only child, stressing out about something I can't do much about (though will continue with all the quackery I'm doing now!).

Well, Chez Bruce was... ok let me copy and paste here what I said on another thread:

dinner turned into a bit of a wet squib. I got a couple of calls as I was getting ready that I didn't answer because... I was getting ready! If I get distracted, it's lethal, so I just ignore the phone. I listened to my messages when nearly done and it's maitre'd at the restaurant saying they've been informed the power is being turned off for the whole street at midnight and so looking to push my table earlier to avoid curtailing 'the experience' (their poncy wording). Next message is the manager who sounds a little like Basil Fawlty saying they've now been informed it's going off at 10.45 and it's becoming a fiasco (his words ) our experience would have to be cutrailed, they certainly would only be able to manage two courses (NO DESSERT?!?!) and so perhaps we should reshedule?

So we're going Sunday evening now. Apparently there will be a note in my history of what happened last night so I'm hoping we at least get a glass of something fizzy upon arrival I'm allowed one !

Rest assured I'll report back (probably monday).

MissP Well, having done it twice now in the last year I can say you don't cope with a toddler and ms! I literally had to accept that I could only do what I could do and NOT feel guilty about the tv taking up the slack.

flip Here's hoping baby takes note of your username and does likewise! Failing that I have a contact at Cirque Du SOliel if you wanna hang upside down on the trapeze?

MissP agree with not feeling guilty about doing whatever is necessary to get through MS with a toddler. If CBeebies is what you need then use it. The toddlers were highly at the sight of me running out of the room every couple of minutes and trying to fight through the maze of stairgates when I was working. Fortunately my mindees mum was very understanding of my TV use at the time being pregnant herself.

Ooooh, (slightly belated) congratulations to MissP and everything crossed for Siamese.

Hope yours turns, Flip. As you say, most do. Glad you're managing to be reasonably phlegmatic about it. I got quite wound up with my first who remained resolutely breech until 36 weeks.

No dessert, manda? Was the man mad? You definitely need a glass of something fizzy waiting for you on Saturday.

People, you STILL here? Surely there must be a new thread soon. You've only got 13 more messages to go....

12

And what happened to your self-imposed MN ban? Couldn't stay away, hey?

10

I pop by occasionally! ;)

Bloody hell...the next round of March 2010 babies are probably all going to be born in the next thread....

Look what I did : come over to our new humble abode, with toddlers and bumps - there will be gin and gingernut biscuits .

Lovely to read about your bumps/planned births etc - glad to hear you are doing blooming well. Well, maybe apart from MissP - hope MS passes v soon.

I took boys swimming today (half-term here), came home to find house full of smoke: DS3 had switched oven on before we left and must have happened upon the 'self-cleaning' program which absolutely incinerated everything inside the oven which included some silicone caketins. V v smelly house, but as I said to DH nobody died, no real fire and no black walls. I am very relieved indeed and feel absolutely stoopid to have only checked until after the event how to set the childlock on said all-singing-all-dancing-oven.

Also has DS2's friend over for a sleep-over: tent is pitched in the living room, had totally overexcited boys, 'midnight' feast was had - and then it got a bit emotional as friend did not want to actually sleep in the tent and DS2 felt abandoned and no, they were not at all tired.... they are now mercifully asleep. Wish me luck for the rest of the night.

I really hope the headgirls won't feels I've muscled in on their territory with the new thread

how VERY dare you..... will toddle over for a look at the new thread!