Jan 09: Spring is in the air and baby mj is due (and some of the others are going to the loo)

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a nice and new and shiny one

Your right HKZ, it does seem insignificant but maybe it will help.

I would vote for poetry rather than knitting as I can't bloody knit!

Hope all goes well with J on tuesday, try not to think about what might have been if you can. Hard though, I agree.

Dog, glad to hear she is feeling better, does sound viral. Hope the grotty nappies stop soon. I will message her in a bit, just like you said, better to say something and I will tell her the whole thread sends its love.

Dog, I know what you mean. meant to say I am glad to hear I is feeling better.

Pat, I always picture you sitting at home doing a spot of light knitting of an evening, you've shattered my mental image!

Off to kiss my babies again and watch some friday nigt tv.

Yes, sadly off to blub a bit at comic relief now. I am a mess tonight!

Lots of love to all the little ones tonight xxx

P.s I can cast-on and cast-off does that count?

I'm sorry- my post earlier was highly insensitive, but I just wasn't thinking straight; I am so upset by this, but I know my pain is nothing compared to hers, and the pain and fear felt by you HKZ for Jude.

I know she wasn't a regular Jan 09er, but it makes no difference - my heart goes out to her and her family; life is so fragile and I am thankful we do not get reminder of that more frequently.

DS was overtired and waily tonight, but I just couldn't put him down and sat in the dark with him on my chest like he did as a newborn, patting his back, and stroking DD's hair with my other hand.

Thinking of you all x

I came on to brag about another poo run at the pool and followed the thread over and read the whole thing and went in and woke up DD to give her a big hug and kiss and tell her I love her and she said 'OK mummy' and rolled over and went back to nap. What a sudden thing to happen. Condolences for the family. Can someone find out about funeral and we could send some flowers or donate something to the hospital or some organization that Edgar likes or something, in our Jan09 name. Just a thought.

She was on the diet thread, posted a couple of times on Postnatal and also Tree's Tree Range Eggy thread. I hadn't made the connection because she's name changed a couple of times.

I can't knit either, poetry sounds like a nice idea though.

As Pat said, HKZ, hope the appointment goes ok on Tuesday.

Dog, its good that its not still white. There seem to be a lot of gastro bugs around at the moment. Dh, dd and I have just had one that came with the most awful painful cramps. If the diarrhea is light yellow and frothy then gastroenteritis is the most likely suspect. Hope she's better soon.

Sorry, I can't think straight to get the right words out. Really bad day with ds1 and school, but it just pales into insignificance when I think of Edgar.

Am purposefully avoiding comic relief.

I'm lurking, I have read her whole thread several times, I feel shocked and numb but no tears here. But it has made me realise no matter how much DS is driving me crazy (5 time outs today) I have a lot to be thankful for. Poor poor Edgar her eldest DD, her H, and the little 7 month old DD. Horrid situation and such a painful loss for them all

Oh no, what shocking and heart-breaking news. Just got in and read the whole thread - it's so terrible the way it starts out as a worry about an ear infection and ends the way it does. Thanks for letting us know eppm, I had no idea she was a Jan 09-er.

N just bumped his head on the edge of his bed (messing around with DH, still up!) and burst out crying, and ran to the top of the stairs so I could kiss it better. Such a simple way to take his pain away. Heart-breaking to think that she couldn't just fix her baby boy and that he will never do so many things.

Thinking of you all and our precious babies tonight x

Oh God I don't know if I want to read the eggy thread or not. I sort of do, I want to reacquaint myself with EdagarAllenPoo properly, as I remember her. Maybe I'll read it when the news sinks in a bit. I remember her as supportive and bright and bubble, I wonder how she will be from now on? Oh it's an unbearable thought, to go through this nightmare.

Love to all.

I went and found the eggy thread, Edgar posted lots. I've dedicated it to her Darling Son, which is cheesy but well intentioned and as the thread ends in new life, maybe it is somehow ok. I don't know.

Good grief it's so shocking.

Hope you are ok MissJ and GotArt, pregnancy can be a hard time to hear hard news. HKZ in particular, lots of love to you. Thaks for letting us know EPPM, I had missed the whole thread and would have hated not to have heard. x

I think one thing learned from her story is that we do know our children better than the doctor and when something is going on a little too long, we need to stand up tell them that something a more needs to looked at. He just seemed to get worse since November, but kept getting passed up by doctors as him just having fluid in his ears. Such a shame. It also upset me that even after getting an OK for CT scan, they didn't feel the need to do it right away. He should have been admitted immediately with everything else she'd said he was experiencing. I think I am more mad than sad TBH. No tears either. Just a little

hello eppm.. good to see you. I would very much like to contribute something to whatever you choose to do. I'm still reeling from it and can't quite take it in.

Hello everyone.

Still a bit shell shocked here.

Dog - sleeping arrangements sound perfect to me. Hopefully Edgar is getting similar healing from her dd. I think she is pretty young too.

GotArt - I thought that but had to stop or I'd have gone insane. I didn't read the whole thread, knowing the outcome, it was too much.

Wonder if we should a thread thing? Maybe post it to towers for them to forward, if the are able. Card or a something?

I can only imagine how difficult it is for the family right now, but I sincerely hope they have a legal enquiry into the care. The more I think about it, the more I see malpractice. It was all so sudden after the operation as well, and everything was 'fine' until that very moment. I reckon there's lots she isn't divulging due to not wanting to relive it moment to moment, but I hope they get closure.

Well, its cleaning and shopping day today. DH has asked me to pull something out for dinner from the freezer. I hate that. Anything I pull out or pick up at the shop gets a question like, "Chicken? Really?" He was grateful to have the car to take to work today. Its dry out and no rain in the forecast, so DD and I can walk to the store.

Am pining for this strollerr

Have just read Edgar's thread, her beautiful post made me weep in the hairdressers. So terribly cruel. It certainly makes you think how fortunate you are and how easily it can all slip away.

Hope Tuesday goes well for you HKZ. So glad that card meant a lot, at the time it felt so insignificant, so perhaps it would be a good thing to do something for Edgar.

Am checking in on you MissJ, with baited breath. Wishing you all the luck and love needed.

Sorry for my absence. Work is crazy but so much fun, I actually love it, I look forward to going every day. I never thought I'd say that post babies but it is such a great role, every day is mad and different. And I'm getting massive job satisfaction. Plus I'm so much happier, DH and I are happier, more love around (and more sex!) and the babies are loving spending time with their Dad. And an added bonus, I've lost 16lbs since I started in Jan and have started running again. I realise I had actually lost a bit of myself among all the baby making and day to day stuff, and it feels fab to be something/someone else again.

Dog I know I shouldn't speculate... I think its just my coping mechanism. I did go through a sudden situation with my father that ended in death and it was found there was an incredible amount of neglect going on in terms of the care and not listening, passing off what was wrong with him as 'just an everyday cold'.

Yes we have Phil & Ted's here. Do they have similar ones. These ones seem around more. I'd have to sell the Quinney though, which I adore because we have the trail one which is great for the island... you should see the places I can go with that thing.

Lenni Yeah for more time for yourself and sex. I read recently that being intimate with your partner 3 times a week is equivalent to making $75000 + salary a year regarding happiness and it just keeps growing. I know for me, just getting out for an hour too every other day for some physical exercise is the best medicine. Plus when I come home, DD goes crazy for me. Its very sweet.

Evening

It is so horrid and sad!!

Did well with nct sale today

I wasn't offended Dog, honestly. I'm just tend to be reactionary when I hear stories like this.. especially as I've been through neglectful care on part of doctors and hospital... is was hard for me because I live so far away from family, but it was the closure I needed. I spent 10 straight days in ICU with him. Turned out his everyday cold that he argued about for a month was SARS topped which ended getting topped with pneumonia and a bacteria that was actually a mutated skin rash in his lungs. I'd be the same if I'd heard about it on the news and was a complete stranger. I reckon Edgar is thinking of other things right now and being with family is where she's at. There are steps to grieving, I think I go to anger and tend to stay there till satisfied... Anyhow, I don't want to dwell on it. I wasn't offended.

We have this [[http://www.sears.ca/product/quinny-freestyle-4xl-travel-system/632-000479196-01481CAPG Quinny] in green and with the car seat. Its brilliant. I little heavy compared to most but maneuvers like a dream over the trails... I barely have to push it really. It has a big under space to for loads of groceries. I thought of getting a step for it for DD as she prefers to walk most times now, but think if we were out on trails, it might be easier for her to have the option of a little seat to rest on.

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