July 2010: Weaning's in full swing, the kitchen floor's covered in ming

[CakeandRoses]

And voila: our 6th postnatal thread... which neatly works out roughly one a month [maths genius emoticon]

cake don't be so hard on yourself then it's the first time for you too (well second time but I don't reckon you remember the first time too well )

mlic I wish you lived closer, I reckon our 4 would hit it off, E and L could blither at each other and W and S could see who could scream the loudest for the longest and drink the least amount of milk

cake we do naughty mat and if she keeps doing it she goes to her room. She just sits on him so I can't very well ignore that! :)

Aaaaand S is up after less than an hour...he usually has a lot longer than that so he's going to be a right pita til his next nap.

mlic I'm with you. I'd never hurt S but when he was doing his constant screaming I could totally understand how people can be pushed to that.

Mlic i totally get what you mean. When E had tge colic i said the exact same thing.
Cake you're definately not failing. It's just a blip. He'll get there eventually. You seem like a really lovely mum and this is just something thats a bit harder than the rest of it. And the same methods don't work for every child. The one day method didn't really work for felix but something else will. Anf him hitting A is just what kids do sometimes imo. It's not nice but i reckon you should.pick something like tge naughty step and stick at it.
We have hv now at 12 o clock for the developmental. Can't wait to see how much she weighs!
Very restless night for E here. She wad constipated yesterday eve but evrntually had a bit of a poo but was up screaming a few times with brlly pains and teething the poor thing.

Ack and double ack, S is off his milk today. He had a half-hearted feed at 8.30 and I attempted to get some down him just now but he's not bothered. He's eating well so just milk he's not interested in. Fine for him but I'm getting very sore and full - bfing can be so easy but such a mission at the same time

thank you everyone. what you've said has made me feel miles better about everything now. have just been baking too so that's restored me back to normal levels of cheerfulness

chulita if you guys lived closer then i'd be so jealous i wouldn't be able to 'talk' to you and tsc's head would be practically boiled with envy

sorry but i did chuckle at what you said about what W and S would get up to. i do love the gallows humour on this thread.

hope S drinks some more today

Good luck with the check kk.

mlic it's hard to know about pnd or not given what you're dealing is enough to make anyone tearful at times . worth just speaking to your gp and see what the options are?

hotg sounds as tho night feeds and the same no of feeds aren't that uncommon then. do you sometimes feel you're the only one still feeding so much in RL? I do at times!

cakes I don't actually hang out with any other mothers so don't ever really feel like I'm doing anything too much or too little. I did try going to baby groups but they weren't really my cup of tea.

The only reference I really have is my MIL, as my own parents live further away, and if I believe everything DH's mum told me then J would have been sleeping through the night for 7 months, be fully integrated on solids and no longer need milk feeds. God knows, he should probably be walking and talking by now according to her. I should have tried control crying by now with him but should only have had to do it once for him to get the jist.

Oh those rose tinted glasses, I wish I had some.

kk car sounds ace, lucky you!
woodlands hows ur cold?
needles thanks for ur words of advice re sleep training, my problem is the same as mylifes he goes down sweet as a nut but wakes up crying......however, tuesday night, after feeling so low and crying at the Docs and the doc saying he was well and no bronchialitus, i decided enouhgh was enough and we had to make some positive steps so we left him to cry! Well we did 20 mins first time till i went up to discover he had a diety nappy!!! he never has a dirty nappy after bed time but he did then. Then he cried again three times during the night, i left him twice but went in the middle time as he has turned over and i didnt think he would settle on his front but i didnt stay in there i tucked him in tightly and left the room, he cried for another 5mins and went to sleep. I actually think i drifted in and out of sleep whilst he was crying so not completly sure how long he went on for but it was only 20-30 mins each time, probably not even that. Last night it was me that woke us up, i have pulled a muscle in my shoulder blade?? No idea how i did this but OMG it was soooo painfull in the night i thought i was dying, i think it was cramping up or something. DH had to get me some tablets and see to D once. So regarding sleep im feeling much better, just cant believe this damn pulled muscle.
Mylife and chu i am going to be mean and continue with this hard line with Devon, i was so low at the beginning of the week, as u all noticed(thanks all for ur support, it really helps!) I just really dont want to visit the pit of sleep deprivation doom again,do u think that a few nights of pain might be long term gain? Our situations are so similar however u do have to think about ur other little ones. I too worry about my DH as he has a stressfull job and thats another reason why i have chosen to try it, id rather have a week of upset for D to learn to self settle than for this to go on indefinatly.
D was at the childminders again yesterday and she said he didnt cry at all, i was dead pleased. He has slept for and hour and 40 mins this morning and is having another 45mins so far now, but i need to wake him as its feeding time and i want to protect his routine so that bedtime isnt disturbed.
memphis ur teeth sound horrid, hope its not too painfull.
people who are BLW are ur lo's cutting down on milk yet, devon hasnt at all yet, well i have cut out his dream feed but hes still on 4 bottles of 7oz.

sounds like everyone with toddlers is having a hard time at the minute!
mlic normally L is up between 5 and 6.30 for the day but this week he has been going down again, hopefully W will follow suit.
we have a puppy, he is lovely already chasing his tail and lying in his bed but i got lost and the journey took an hour longer than it should have so as soon as i let him out the box he shit on carpet, it was awful but the woman did say she fed him any cheap puppy food so hopefully it will settle with the good stuff! i hate to judge but she was a scumbag, i got there at 11.30 she was still in pjs eventhough i was expected all curtains still drawn, looked stoned the carpet was sodden as she had cleaned it the night before her 2 yo was fast asleep in a dirty muddy coat and wellies ON THE FLOOR! while she had 7 dogs on the sofa!!! i wanted to whisk the pups and the baby away!

Just to say i dont know how i manage these things but i totally missed the last two pages when i last posted so i will catch up and post appropriatly. U must have thought me mental asking about milk feeds when thats what ur all talking about anyway!! haha! gots to go wake the baby, he now had an hour!

memphis how exciting re pup! hope he turns out to be a goodun. really awful sounding home he came from tho . how could 2yo end up asleep on the floor wearing all that?

mlici've done similar when someones asked if i'm ok when i've been under lots of stress before (not dc related). i've never had depression so i'm no expert but from what you say, it does sound more like you're run down and overloaded than suffering from pnd.

is there a phone line you could call to speak to someone knowledgeable?

what does your dh think?

is everything ok with your bum? sorry, no great way of asking this.

I really can't call that one mlic. You have a lot to deal with. You're not getting full nights sleep, have a toddler and a demanding baby and do absolutely everything round the house and cooking and shopping and all. My guess is that you are constantly tired and never get a break to catch up on sleep or relax. You just seem to go go go all the time so you have to be tired which really affects your mood. You've experienced pnd before so try and compare. Is there an online test you can do? really dont know how they work though or if they are accurate. If it os pnd you need to be getting the proper support for it so definately if you feel like it is then go to see hv or doc.
Vik think your definately right in doing this now. It will be worth it in the end

cake just agreeing, you have not failed when F has an accident. Seriously.

mlic like kk says, you never really get a break do you. So it's pretty relentless isn't it? I think that is probably wearing you down. I find it hard enough doing 95% of the childcare as no family here to give us a break, but the 5% of the time when dh has the kids at the w/end and I go off for an hour or two by myself just totally restores me. It does me a world of good. So I don't know if you have pnd or anything similar but I do think you may be pretty run down and low on energy reserves!

Speaking of getting away by myself, they have open-air cinemas in the park here in the summer so last night a friend and I went to see a film, armed with a bottle of wine and lots of snacks. It was fab! I have a slightly sore head this morning but it was worth it.

Oh and I meant to say mlic, on the day E is in nursery I think you should REST WITH LOTS OF CUPS OF TEA AND CAKE AND DO ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING. And yes, I am shouting.

will post properly later but just wanted to announce that...

Felix has had no accidents ALL day at nursery, he did a wee in his nappy during his nap and held it the rest of the time, poor man. They said he's def ready, he's just struggling to let go on the potty.

so when we got home i put his potty on top of his booster to try to get him past this block of using potty. He finally did a (HUGE) wee (and got cake, whooping, kisses and calling the world) and then did a second wee in the potty when it was on the floor.

and i've just been called away to hold his hand so he could do a poo on the loo which he's now flushed away to 'visit thomas'

i feel like i've won the lottery

Sounds like a good decision tsc. Maybe you could reconsider in another couple of years when C will be at school? I can't see how working with two children in childcare is worth it financially.

Viksam my cold is improving, thanks for asking! I was wondering how come you remembered until I saw you'd skipped some pages!

J isn't doing proper BLW but has been dropping feeds. Current routine looks like this:

8am breakfast
9am breastfeed
12pm lunch
1pm breastfeed
5.30pm tea
6.30pm breastfeed
11.30pm breastfeed
4am breastfeed

So still 6 BFs a day, though it feels like hardly any compared to what it was even 3-4 weeks ago! I do wish he'd drop the night feeds rather than the day feeds though. We have an ongoing battle in that he gets hungry mid morning and mid afternoon and I would like to give him milk feeds then, but he isn't really interested and would rather have a solid food snack. I do give him a snack if he insists, but am conscious that he should still be drinking lots of milk at this stage! Had lunch today with a couple of BLWing friends, one of whose babies still isn't eating any solid food at all at almost 9 months. She isn't bothered though, she's very chilled out.

congrats on the puppy memphis!

WSS watching a film outside sounds unbelievable! i feel like I can't even remember a time when the weather was warm enough to sit outside. Ah well, it's March now.

Solids - G has just started having loads more, she is wolfing it down - adn gone back to one wake up a night so I reckon she was hungry too.