September 2010 - meet-ups, pram addicts and the cutest babies in the world!

[Chelle1986]

Am taking the innitiative and doing the new thread! Bombs away...!

on his mind i ment to say.

skye

does that work?

haha clumsy - yes it does - is she singing!? hehe.

cinnamon I did the same today! for the same reason. Ds1 wouldn't get his coat & shoes on for us to go out for lunch. I totally lost it & slapped the back of his hand 5 times then his bum cos he still wouldn't do as he was told. I didn't feel too bad about that one because he has a nappy on but I'm crying thinking about the 5 hand slaps! I'm just so tired at the minute that my patience is very low. I put myself on the naughty stool after & apologised!

comix dh has eczema so I just think its that. They both started at the same age. I keep trying to stop ds1s cream but if i miss it for more than 3 days he starts getting patches again.

Melly you'll be fine. For me its just the thought that I've been messed about so much down there after having 2 dcs that i just want it to be mine again if that makes sense!

Clumsy She is gorgeous!

Awful night! Im a wreck! Tired is a town I passed thru weeks ago and am now in zombie land. Am dedicating next week or so to stringent routine in the hopes that things get better. To be fair last night was partly down to ds2 but Phoebe is waking between 4-5am regularly now. Am hoping if I stick to her routine I can be sure she is getting enough milk. Dont know - end of my tether.

newmum Phoebe naps about 2 hours after she gets up for close to an hour. and then from maybe midday to 2 or half past. Sometimes she catnaps for 20-30mins in the afternoon but never starting later than 4.30 of she wont go to bed on time. I think for this age if you want them to sleep 12 hours during the night then they should have about 3 hours total during the day.

jodey they are growing too fast I know. Seems like I just blink and there goes another week. I still catch my breath times looking at the boys and cant believe how much they have grown.

Nope,that was a tantrum,about a hat...and this is her saying sorry

Wish there was a big scream near me Comixminx sounds like a great idea!

Your daughter has the most gorgeous eyes clumsymumluckybaby!

Did you see the new report on the implant chelle1986? My friend just had hers removed after a year of almost constant bleeding :(

Ds1 seems to have totally forgotten about his smack so I needn't have worried. I told dh and he said I thought we weren't allowed to smack but then was reasonably understanding!

When dh and I decided we were going to get together I told him I wanted to get married (he's been married twice before and wasn't keen) and he told me he wanted another child and I said no way! We were engaged after 5 months, married a year later and had ds1 9 months later. I had to persuade him to have Luke though and not sure I can do it a second time. I was with my ex for 6 1/2 years and we were engaged for most of it, he obviously had no intention of marrying me (not saying your oh's aren't) and it made me realise it was very important to me.

Clumsy, for some reason i can't see your pics but i'm loving the fact you took a picture of a tantrum and then the apology

Grace is 4 months old today i honestly can't believe it! I'm going back to work in May and although it seems a long way off it'll come round so quick and by the time i'm back at work it'll only be 4 months until Grace's 1st birthday. I really don't know where the time is going!

Bit of a shit night again last night, she went to bed at 7.30 yay but woke up at 9 boo! She then went back down at 11 ish but woke up at 2.30 she went back down quite easily but woke up at 6 ish crying but not awake, she settled herself back to sleep and i got up at 7.15 to get ready before DP went to work. I'm friggin exhausted. Roll on weekend, it's my day for a lie in tomorrow. Do you think DP will be pissed off if i don't bother getting out of bed at all tomorrow

Orlaith wasn't great last night either. She went to sleep at 10.45, woke at 1.45 had 4oz and went straight back to sleep. Then woke at 4.20, the only thing that would stop her screaming was her bottle but she wouldn't drink it aaaargh! Eventually went back to sleep and then woke at 6.30 and had 2oz, then back to sleep again till 8.15.
I know it's not the worst night ever, but it's the wanting to suck on a bottle but not drink that I find hard. I've never liked the idea of a dummy but I'm desperate for her to take one now and she just won't.

Those of you whose babies sleep 7+ hours uninterrupted, what's your routine? Do you have very active days? Do you have quiet time in the evening? Please enlighten me!

Wow, I miss 1 day and there's 2 pages of posts to catch up on!

melly sorry to hear about your... ur... misplaced flap. Try not to worry too much, even if they do have to restitch you, the anticipation is almost always worse than the actual op..

clumsy I can't see your pics either (guessing it's cos I'm not on facebook) but she sounds like a real sweetie (I bet you have trouble keeping a straight face sometimes when she's having a tantrum ).

Well, just to prove you guys right (or possibly to make me feel like a fool), Louis decided to be a jolly little angel baby yesterday . He was smiley and happy all day, napped well and hardly cried at all, right up until the evening. We still had a 30 minute meltdown at bedtime, but it just didn't seem so bad after such a lovely day... (He then woke up and screamed every 2 hours all night, but you can't have everything, eh )

Hope you're feeling better about the smacking cinammon and banana. As someone else said, I'm sure lots of us were smacked when we were kids and we haven't all been traumatised by it (I know it's v different for anyone who was smacked a lot, or hard, or not for reasons they could understand etc). I hope I don't ever smack Louis, but realistically I'd be surprised if I don't loose it every now and again.

When your los wake in the night do you wait for them to really get going before you feed them?? Olly just wakes and wriggles and grunts a bit. Its always at the same time so I just get up & feed him! He takes 5-6oz so I guess he wants it but I'm wondering whether to leave him & see if its just a habit. The only problem is its so quick, up, fed & settled within 15mins, Thats much easier than laying there awake waiting!

Saoirse Olly just does it! sorry! we do different things every day & although he has a "routine" its very flexible. He has to fit around what I want to do! I'm very selfish like that! The only fixed thing is that he's in bed by 6.30!

I've managed 2 weeks of doing my Davina dvd every mon, wed, fri! & if I keep going as I am will have lost all my baby weight by next fri!!!!!

Newmum I've just had to sort out going back to work. The boys are registered at nursery and I'm going back in sept working wed, thurs & fri. Its horrible thinking about it but still seems far enough away for me not to worry too much. What does everyone do? I'm a community nurse!

ARGHHHHHHHHH GRRRRRR ARGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all I have to say about this mornings headlines on breastfeeding, bloody hell I hate the way things are reported it makes me VERY VERY ANGRY

Can already here my mother saying, see dear I told you BF was no good........

Thanks for all your good wishes to my...ahem... lady bits will prob be quite a wait before I get to see gynaecology and even longer til the op so I guess I just need to try and forget about it for now.

Sleep still rubbish here, Flynn doesn't seem to be able to go longer than 3 hours between feeds, can't believe I am functioning on such little sleep for so long with a toddler as well, the body is amazing.

melly I totally agree re the bf news. It annoys me how much negativity my in laws have about me not weaning yet (Orlaith's 16 weeks today) and I'm sure they'd have been so much worse if I'd managed to bf. Stories like this really are not supportive towards parents the way they're reported.

Isn't the report supposed to be showing that there may be no benefit of waiting till 6 months before weaning, but the way it's reported it's like bfing is totally wrong and mums are making the wrong decision.

Last night PIL's were over (uninvited as usual) and started saying how Orlaith was clearly desperate for food. I don't know why they say this, she's not a particularly hungry baby and isn't unsettled between feeds or anything. I said I'd made the decision that I'd prefer to wait until around 6-7 months, but will see how things go. Then they started saying how by this age all theirs were having the same meals as them just liquidised, including meat and everything! MIL said to SIL "that's why you've all got such good blood" even SIL replied with "what on earth do you mean? What's 'good blood'?"

They're so annoying!

Rant over.... for now....

Morning all....... spent a long time yesterday catching up on here and now can't possibly comment on everyone's posts!
Except melly sympathies for you my lovely! Hope lady flap sorts things out and disappears!

chelle remember what I said about jinxing myself! I'm a bloody psychic! Up at 12.30pm and 2.30am then 6am. The sod! After 2 weeks of 12 hours with one feed at 4am!

Also saw the news this morning re: weaning.
Wish that they'd just say they recommend that between 4-6months is the optimum time for weaning and not this month or that month! How can every baby possibly fall into the same bracket?! I know that Jack won't get anywhere near 6 months... he's got so much body to fill and is not a milky man! He definitely eats to live rather than live to eat. So the spoons are coming out soon in this house! More kitchen roll and wet wipes I foresee!

On a tidy mission today so hopefully not too tired for a bit of mega multi tasking. Oh bog! Washing has been in machine for 2 days................ ......... going now!
Happy happy Friday you gorgeous, lovely mumsnettymums

saoirse PIL sound bonkers! So were they also feeding salty gravy with their meat? Makes you wonder doesn't it!?
Only you know what's the best thing for your lo! Stick to what you want to do and sod interfering oldies

MIL did tell me that she'd put gravy in their meals because it made them more liquidy and easier to drink. Did it never occur to her that if they struggled to drink it, maybe it wasn't what they wanted or needed? I don't know if there necessarily is a link but all of her children struggle with food and their weight. SIL's are both overweight, one quite seriously. And DP eats far too much sweet stuff and apparently was extremely hyperactive when he was a child.

TBH it's got to the point that I'd rather put off weaning onto solids for even longer because I know they'll be giving her all sorts when I do wean her, and I feel quite strongly that I want her to eat healthily and not to be eating sweets and meat until she's much older.

My grandad also keeps saying I should put sugar in her water to make it taste better. She takes it quite happily so I don't understand why he thinks I should do that.

beadit good luck with your cleaning. Normally our washing stays in the washing machine for 2-3 days! I had a blitz yesterday because DP's been 'working from home'. I had a yoga class at a buddhist centre in the evening and I went there stinking of bleach. I'm not sure if buddhists like the smell of bleach!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA crazyness! Sugar??? It's a bloody good job not many men raise babies on their own!

Sounds like there could be a link if it's a trait in the family. Don't suppose anyone really knows tho do they?

I'm ok at the cleaning bit but to be honest I've got to be the world's worst hoarder and with all my jewellery equipment spilling all over the house...... we live in total chaos on a good day!

at your bleach story! That sounds very chilled tho! Wish there was a centre near me.

Well better night last night (according to DP - I was in the spare room!) He went down at 7:30pm and had a bottle at 1am. Went back to sleep at 1:30am til 6am then woke properly at 7am. Not bad - typical on my night off of course!!

Banana - I leave him in the night when he wakes until he is properly awake. Sometimes he will settle back you see. Although he defo doesnt want feeding everytime he wakes - normally feed him the first time he wakes but then if he wakes 3 hours after that I dont feed again as he just doesnt want it (we've tried and he just plays with it). Normally feeds are 6 hours apart at night.

Beadit - u really did jinx yourself there lovely! My turn for the evil witch laugh!

Saoirse - you PIL's sound nuts! Sorry but I dont think I could have bitten my tongue as long as you have! Well done! But Orlaith is your baby - tell them to sod off! I wouldnt be able to leave Olly with grandparents if I thought they would give him stuff while I wasnt there - so wouldnt blame you if you dont either!

Well Olly just had two whole spoonfuls of baby rice and didnt seem to mind it too much, thats it for today but we'll be having some more tomorrow!

Olly - 15+5

Also - I got the biggest smiles this morning because he hadnt een me all night! He kind of did this whole body tensing, excited little jiggle! Hehe...

He seems a lot happier today - hmmmmm could it be because you had a proper nights sleep Oliver!!

weaning news story...

this is quite a good,well rounded article,and its made me feel a bit less angry about the whole thing,if anyone wanted to read it...

clumsy thanks for that link, am still fuming though as the way it was reported on the news this morning was so unbalanced and people like my Mum who read the f Daily Mail will not get the the same article that is in the Guardian yet they will will believe it trustingly and without question.....I despair at the way we are spoon fed (ha funny!) news in this country, does anyone else watch Charlie Brooker's Newswipe when it's on? I reckon it's the most unbiased news out there!!
Sadly propaganda in all its forms is alive and well in the media today, I just don't understand why it has to be one thing or another - why can there not be more general guidelines to these things?! No two babies are the same and no two parents are the same, yet we're bombarded endlessy with all these do's and don'ts and expected to get it right!!

Sorry rant over! (for now!)

I leave Luke too bananastew, I know it's easier to get up straight away but he does sometimes go back to sleep and my theory is in the long run I will have less nights of him waking if he's learning to settle again. He's never totally screaming or anything just starting to get a bit louder!

I hope you are not all going to be complaining about me next week! I have agreed to do an article in the Times about the EAT study that we are taking part in. I had a reporter and photographer here today for an hour. I think the reporter was against waiting until 6 months for weaning from things that she said. I did stress to her that the EAT people believe that bm should still be the main source of nutrition but that you are introducing small amounts of the allergenic food rather than feeding them loads to fill them up but who knows how it will be written. Don't really want mums all over the country angry at me

Blimey, it is all a big minefield, isn't it. I'm sure I'll get some views from my Ma this weekend too but I don't feel like Aphra is ready to start weaning yet - she can't yet sit up by herself (though she is clearly trying to) and doesn't yet reach out for food (though I eat in front of / near her quite a bit). Once she does start doing those things I'll try a bit of BLW.

Aphra 19 + 2 days

cinnamon, good to hear you & the EAT study will be in the paper. Hopefully they will represent you well, but even if they don't we'll still love you!

I leave Aphra sometimes: recently especially I felt that I was leaping up at night a bit too much, meaning she was getting up more often than entirely necessary. I still lie there awake listening for her a but, but it's still easier than getting up & feeding her if she doesn't quite need it yet...