September 2010 - meet-ups, pram addicts and the cutest babies in the world!

[Chelle1986]

Am taking the innitiative and doing the new thread! Bombs away...!

I think as long as it's not every time you put him for a sleep it's ok dixiebell, so the daytime when he's not asleep will be enough to teach him to settle. Luke is still so varied in what he does that he doesn't always fall asleep when I give him his last feed and as long as I leave the hall light on so he can see his mobile he settles himself fine and also does for a morning and afternoon nap, by 4ish he cannot settle himself for that last nap so I tend to feed him to sleep and he sleeps on my lap. Seeing as that was the first nap ds1 dropped I'm not too worried about it. It depends how long you want to bf him as to if you can always feed him to sleep!! My neighbour always fed her daughter to sleep when she stopped her last feed at 18 months she had to teach her how to self settle then which was hard work but I'm sure others will have different experiences for you!

dixie someone asked if id named him after a minor character in hollyoaks i dont even bloody watch hollyoaks!

Morning all, Grace is still saleep after finally going down at nearly midnight. She was coughing a bit during the night but not enough to wake her up. I'm going to wake her up soon as these late nights are killing me and need to get her back into some kind of routine so she hopefully goes down easier at night. We're on nearly 2 weeks of very late nights now and i'm exhausted!! She's not really waking during the night apart from Sunday when she did but i can't handle going to bed at midnight every night and having no chill time in the evening.

Dixie we feed Grace to sleep at night, it is literally the only way we can get her to sleep!

I feed Aohra to sleep every night too, Dixie, though I have wondered slightly about it as you say! I fear that even during the day I feed her to sleep at least some of the time... Hmm...

Aphra I mean! Wish autocorrect would pick that one up rather than the silly "corrections" it does.

Aphra 19 weeks tomorrow. We're off to see The Kings Speech at the Big Scream today!

Dixie and clumsy you probably have seen it but there's a toy at M&P called Arlo. And clumsy what kind of loser do they think you are that you'd name your child after a minor character in hollyoaks?!?!

OMG I've just had an hour battling with Mary to get her to go down. After 3 stop-starts with putting her down awake, I gave in and fed her to sleep :( Maybe it's the after-effects of the jabs still??

She was awake at 3 this morning and at 6 again. I gave up trying to sleep and took the dogs out for a walk.

clumsy I'm in Swindon, so I was toying with the Bath classes or else offering to host one here. Which were you thinking of? x

dixie it sounds as though I do the same thing as you every night. It doesn't matter where or when I feed her, she will only go to sleep if she's had a bottle and always falls asleep as she finishes it. So I always have to put her in her cot when she's pretty much asleep. I have wondered whether her sleeping would be better if I did it differently but I've never managed it.

Orlaith was awake at 3 and 6.30 too jessemy . I'm wondering if it's the injections too, or maybe because she's still got a bit of a cold.
Normally she has a feed and falls back to sleep no problem in the night, but at 6.30 she only managed to take 2oz with a lot of effort from me and then just kept crying for ages.
I ended up rocking and patting her to sleep. She kept waking up and crying when I tried to put her in her cot so I just got her into bed with me and had a nice cuddle. Then she woke up at 8.30 all smiles and like nothing had happened.

jessemy and clumsy what made you decide to train as a doula? Did you have doulas for your pregnancies?

newmum glad Grace slept last night. I'm sure her bedtime will get earlier and earlier.
Well.... Jack's first night in his own room last night He settled as soon as DH finished reading The Velveteen Rabbit to him at 8.15pm then slept til 5.30am. Great except for the fact that he was then awake for 2 hours He did have another hour at around 7.30am and has been asleep since 10.45am.
Hoping as he gets used to his cool new room he'll drop off after his early morning feed so my day doesn't start at 5.30am Though I did stay up to get my Matt Damon fix last night.
I waited in ALL day yesterday for our Urbo as it's supposed to be coming 24 hour mail but no joy so I'm still waiting and feel incredibly house bound. It'll no doubt turn up if I go out so I'm staying put!
Dixie and clumsy I absolutely LOVE the name Arlo! Only muppets would come out with silly comments about it. I asked DH if we had another if he'd like the name but apparently he's too Yorkshire to pronounce words ending with 'O' I don't think he is but his folks definitely are! Also why names beginning with 'H' were ruled out.

Anyone watch One Born Every Minute? It helped me make my mind up about a sibling for The J man! Will grin and bare it at least once more though am bridesmaid this summer and next so maybe after that

Good lord, how are people thinking about having another so soon. We've decided to wait until Grace is about 6 the labour bit didn't bother me but these last few months have killed me. Although i do think we've been blessed with a rather difficult baby!

Beadit i was i was getting another new pram, we've got a Bebecar Vector which i love but it's very heavy and doesn't fit through small shop doorways and we've got a Chicco Liteway Glamour (i don't know how to do links) the Chicco one is lovely and so light so i use that one for shopping etc. I am a pramaholic though and would deffinately get another one if we had any spare space at our house to keep it!

Hi saiorse, it's unusual for Mary to wake quite that much - normally she'll either sleep straight from 6.30ish to 6, or occasionally she'll wake when me and DH go to bed and, make too much noise! :o But for her to wake at 3 for no apparant reason is highly unusual. Plus the fight to get her to take her morning nap is also not like her. I'll put it down to the jabs again and see what she's like tomorrow!

I'm going to clear out her big cot over the weekend and next week I'll start introducing her to that. It's in DS's room, and DH is worried that DS's gerbils will wake her in the night, so I've suggested we start her napping during the day, so she gets used to the noise. They're less intense at night, so logic suggests if she can sleep through it during the day, night-time will be fine.

As for the doula training, yes, I had one for this pg/birth. She inspired me so very much. It's also something I can work around the kids when they're at school (she has a youngster herself, proving it is possible!), and an added bonus that it doesn't require too much in the way of handiwork - I lost my job last year as I get terrible trouble with my hands. (I now know I have cysts in my carpal tunnels )

Hey everyone. Can I ask for your opinions? What would you do in my situation? I'm just wondering if I should make an appointment with the health visitor, or my GP, or not, and just get on with things... There's not one specific thing really, but lots of little ones that individually I would think were probably normal, but all together have made the last few weeks quite a bit tougher than before, just when things are supposed to be starting to get a bit easier. I've already posted about Louis' sleep going down the pan - he's still waking up to feed every 1.5-3hrs, but now we've also been having a really hard time settling him - over an hour on 4 of the last 5 nights with much more intense crying than we've had before. The same thing happened when I tried to get him to have a nap yesterday morning. Until recently it would sometimes take a while but was usually more grizzling than screaming. This on it's own isn't great, but the last couple of weeks he's also been much less smiley and jolly, he often wakes up crying and gets whiney soon after he wakes up. Also, he's been being sick a few times a day - not much but he was hardly ever sick for the first few months, and I think his poos are smellier. I've taken his temp a few times and it was normal, and he doesn't seem actually ill, but maybe I just can't tell. I've also given him calpol and teething gel but they didn't seem to make any difference. It's just making me feel like such a failure when I can't seem to cheer him up.

Sorry for the mamouth post, I just don't know what to do.

Luke often goes back to sleep after his first morning feed beaditAli but he's been in his own room since day one. I'm worried that it won't be the case once it's lighter in the mornings though. Ds1 was a late April baby so he got used to getting up and going to bed in the light from the beginning, so it is something I've been worrying about! He's so random though last night he went to bed at 6.30 was up at 7.30pm, 1.30 and 4.30 then 8 the day before he went to bed at 6.30 was up at 9.30pm and 5.45 and then 8.30.

I would suggest HV for your first port of call mapletrees. I think I have mentioned this before but I have The Wonder Weeks, which explains the developmental steps which can have an effect on your child, such as sleeping, eating and behaviour changes. There is one at 19 weeks which can start to have effects from 15 weeks. I'm not 100% convinced with all these theories but if there has been a change it may be worth a read, it talks about the 4 month sleep regression too.

Newmum if you take a temperature under the armpit you nee to add a degree so if it reads 36 its actually 37. Ds1 has been poorly with croup. As he's 2 I was able to check his temp in his mouth & it was 39.5 under his arm it was 38.3. I've just bought an ear thermometer off ebay. They £10 but quicker & more accurate!

mapletrees i agree with cinnamon, speak to the hv although whenever either of mine change behaviour, I spend 2/3 weeks trying to work out why or change it back & it just stops itself! Could he have a bit of colic or something?

Well, Olly survived his last jabs ds1 nearly didn't tho. He's really not too well & took himself back to bed this morning so I had to wake him up to go out! He had the most horrendous paddy at clinic when I was getting Olly weighed. I physically had to force him back into the pushchair & with all my weight hold him down while I strapped him in! The whole waiting room could hear so after I'd got him in I stuck my head round the door and proudly announced I'd won! I never realised how strang a 2 year old could be He certainly didn't get the choc choc he'd been promised!

Olly 19weeks 15lb 6oz!

Hello folks, went to see doc yesterday about me lady bits and as I feared I have to go to gynaecology and they will more than likely want to operate why couldn't I have just mended properly?!

banana I really hope you get better news on your visit.

I am quite in awe of all of you really getting into "routines" of one kind or another, it took us til DD was nearly a year before she had any really structured pattern and I can see us being the same way with Flynn, ah well it suits us and causes least stress for us so we're happy in our flippy floppy topsy turvy world

I've lost track of who was asking about feeding babes to sleep possibly dixie ?
I always fed DD to sleep and it was never a problem, at about 11 months we toughened up a bit (what am I saying?! DP toughened up a bit!) and did a very wimpy version of controlled crying and after 3 nights she was settling herself to sleep and has been ever since, so I shouldn't worry too much enjoy this bit - it goes so fast and ultimately TRUST YOUR OWN INSTINCTS it is so easy to feel you should be doing things as you perceive everyone else to be doing but at the end of the day it's your baby, your choice, your life, do what works for you as a Mum and as a family.

I have no idea anymore how many weeks Flynn is but he will be 4 months on the 22nd

L feed Lucy to sleep in our bed. I feed dc3 to bed at about 8-8.30 then come downstairs and lucy is starving so we have about an hours feed/sleep/feed. Then I get her dressed for bed and usually take her up when I go up about 10.30 where she lies in bed with me and feeds to sleep. I have tried laying her in her cot but she wakes instantly and as we share with dc3 I don't want her waking so we just get into bed then. She likes to look at her mobile but it wakes dc3 up.
We have decided that we will take the side off her cot and use it as a bedside cot, but to make sure it is safe we won't actually [put her in it for a few nights. Need to make sure it doesn't collapse without one side.

Got her weighed yesterday and she is 14lb 1oz and 62cm in length. she is just on the 25% line so she has gone up a percentile.

we've never really 'done' a routine either,and ive always fed to sleep,i feel like it's the natural way for them to drift off into dream land,dd stopped at about 18 months and we never had a big problem phasing it out.

(but then again if id known she would be feeding to sleep for that long id have run screaming to ff!)

...we are also a bit flippy floppy topsy turvy

horses for courses n all that...

Glad to hear I'm not the only one feeding to sleep. It just works so well, he goes straight down, never cries, and sleeps for 7-9 hours usually, then back down fine again after night feed. I won't worry about that too much tgen. Now daytime is another matter! Arli simply won't nap in his cot during the day. He'll drop off fine in his pram, on the car or in his bouncy chair, but screams his head off if I put him down in the cot. Even if I feed him to sleep, when I try and put him down he cries, unless I put him in the bouncer with vibrate on. I've tried leaving him to cry but he just works himself up so much. I'dmuch rather he had this problem in day, not night, so it's not too bad, but the older he gets the more I feel it would be better for him if he could nap in a cot. Any ideas?!

maple, I'd also speak to HV. But if it helps, Arlo has also got more whiny lately - I put it down to his being frustrated that he knows more what he wants - to be able to grab & play - but doesn't quite have the co-ordination yet to do it. Also he definitely had smellier poos recently!!! They are slightly less frequent, so I wonder if that has some impact. And he's also been sick more than the early days. No other signs of being ill so I don't think it's anything to worry about.

Arli just fallen asleep on me after feeding. Don't think I can face trying for tge fifth time today to put him in his cot to nap!!

That is Arlo, not Arli!! My thumbs are too big... :)

dixie i dont even try to put Arlo down,we used to try for hours with DD and it just stressed us out,and didnt really achieve anything...Arlo always sleeps on me/in a sling/pram for daytime and evening naps!

i love his cuddles

and funnily enough we've accidentally started calling him Arlie as a sort of nn,seeing as DD is often bug or bugsy malone,it's not too far off his real name!

Jodey My DS2 had was quite refluxy too and I waited til he was 18-19 weeks to wean him even tho he floored 8oz bottles in seconds. Apparently they can be almost 6 months before the tummy sphincter is mature so it might be as well to wait a little. I introduced Max to a lot of foods etc but kept the quantities down until after 6 months. He was still very prone to constipation tho.

I give Phoebe a feed before bed but as of about 2 weeks ago I split it. So she gets almost half her bottle before her bath etc then just half before bed. Gradually I reduce the amount before bed. That said tho I think as long as they arent sound asleep in your arms its not much worry. Both boys were fine going to sleep etc until they were around 18-24 months they they both got in the habit of looking for milk or juice to fall asleep! Not ideal but I dont think its the worst thing in the world. Give them a drink and they pop off again ( or leave beaker in the room as us lazy ass parents do! ) Its better than having to lie down with them or carry them or worse get up with them! Twisted logic I know!

Thanks cinnamon, banana, dixie. I knew I could count on you guys. I've bought the book you mentioned, and will call my hv tomorrow. From what you've all said, should I take it that lots of babies go though phases like this. Am I maybe just being a bit oversensitive? (I wont be offended if you say yes )

Yes!!!!!

not at all! I still do it now. I have got a bit more used to it & chant my little self help chant! "its a phase, it'll pass! It's a phase, it'll pass!" sound a bit crazy walking round tesco clearly knackered & chanting! Although it is worth trying to work it out in case it can be sorted!

Quick question, Olly has some good cradle cap! you really can't see it cos he's got so much hair. should i be doing something about it or will it just go on its own??

banana I was reading about cradle cap because I was told Orlaith has it, although from reading it, I don't think that's what she has. Apparently it will go on its own but will take weeks or months. Otherwise you can use olive oil or baby oil, directly on their skin or in a bath, and there are special creams and oitments you can get too. I've been using Lanisoh and it's definitely helping.