FESH Spa & Creche - The Messiah is late - 'e's a very naughty boy!

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2010 - the best year of my life, for half of it I was pregnant and for the other half had my baybee.

Pol that sounds like right twatty behaviour. Stretched for time (SIL about to arrive at my house with look of horror about all the mud) but have a bit of a slap and sympathy and a shoulder to dry on. Men just don't get it, do they? Cluck and I spoke on the phone for about 45 mins last night, and about 5 mins was horsehorsehorse and 40 mins was 'men. wankers!'

We taught TT to crawl carefully down stairs. On the ground floor of our house we have a step between each room - tis the result of having a 450 year old house built in stages over centuries. We found when we put a stairgate at the top of the stairs that the only bit of wall to attach it to was the 450 yr old mud and cow shit bit of wall ie wattle and daub, and there is no way to attach a stair gate to this. We discovered this after we tried anyway and TT went flying down the stairs wrapped in the gate in a puff of poo powder and lime plaster. We decided it was safer NOT to have a gate! Kids can be taught to go down on their bottom, its just whether you want to do this. A gate is easier. Make sure you get one that can be opened easily with one hand by an adult but not by a toddler. Sounds obvious, I know......

This is all taking the . So many struggles and nightmare experiences. I don't have a lot of time right at the mo (I'm working) , but I am very serious in asking if any/all of you are up for some sort of away weekend - a night in a spa hotel or summat, where we can take turns watching sprogs while we each get pampered and then all get pissed have some lovely food and wine. I know it's no fix for bigger problems, but it's what we all deserve - "us" time away from our other halves. Who* is with me ?

*Cause I know escaping the babies isn't actually practical all round

Dearest pol, I am so sorry to hear you have hit the PND low, but in awe of you spotting it quickly and taking action. at his reaction though. I'm currently google mapping you to see how easily and I come and do some bollock kicking. I'm always here for you - you were so great when I hit my low. So just yell if you want to chat (phone or online) xxx

oh lovely Polls, sorry to hear that. THough I am glad you have recognised it and are going to get the pills. Fish slaps for TG, I hope he has now cancelled his trips.

Pol 4 out of 5? I wouldn't "let" TSF do that with a baby of 18 weeks and no toddler. Imho it's well out of order and I am happy to explain it to him with a cricket bat if necessary.... Doesn't he want to spend his weekends with his beloved family? Sorry about pnd xx

girls night in

(yes, I know, I should be working)

polly I am so sorry you are feeling horrible. I hope you are getting some support from your hv/gp/family. Can you get someone to "have a word" with your other half? It's not on to behave like a passive aggressive twat let alone organise gaming days out with such a tiny baby. How old is she now? I mean, Mr Moo barely went anywhere unless my mum was here.

curly I for one am VERY up for the idea. I am so umbilically attached to the child that will not take a bottle that the thought of a spa day is a very attractive proposition. The question will be, can we find a date that everyone can do!!! London ladies maybe we can double up for the M4 trip?

Have had a nice day but v knackering. 2 hours of walking dog, out shopping and generally sorting shit out. Luckily babymoo has slept well all day but me and the husband are shattered!

I was just trying to figure what I could cash in for 1 X day of large sporting fixture (today) and 1 X golf day and poker night that the other half has also got on in a few weeks time. Count me in. Although I would want to leave both children at home . I like that website.

pollypocket where are you??? Good on ya for spotting the PND and being brave enough to admit it. I had depression a few years ago, well more of a breakdown ( sshhhh don't tell anyone they'll all want one ) and I found it really hard to tell anyone, in fact I didn't. Someone else spotted it. Sorry to join in the man battering but how incredibly selfish. You need lots of help and reassurance and other stuff like every new momma and more so when you have a toddler already.

I had words with HI again yday and the bottom line is that men will never ever understand how us wimminz feel about being a mum and the day to day stuff. It seems we have near strangers offering to babysit left right and centre but not you know who! My parents are gonna come down in a couple of weeks for a few days so I can crack on with chores and go riding and HI can go out without the boy.

HI has improved a bit and being more proactive rather than me always asking can he do this that and the other and it's made a big difference. I mentioned today about maybe not having another as it's full on with MB and I'm not sure how "I" would manage two and his face!! He deffo wants more. Well not if things don't improve. So there. Emotional blackmail I hear you say. Yeah it is.

Casper a SPA break sounds DIVINE!!!!!! HI can fund my attendance.

Okie tossers fo' sho'. Believe it or not I gotta go back!!!

alp what about a 2 nag hoss box?

HI and* I can go out without the boy

Fanks for all the support. And the slap Boxy! Knew I could rely on the power of the ESH. I've told him he can go tomorrow and one day in march, that is it. If he put things on the fucking calendar like i'd asked him to we'd have realised ages ago that all these things were clustered together.

He did come back and apologise and we went out for a nice walk in the woods. He had treated me to a curry tonight too so the day hasn't been a complete write-off.

I like the sound of the cricket bat Vag. . moo BB is five and a half wks old and she is bloody hard work, very screamy and unsettled during the day - was hoping for another like Boo but it seems it was not to be. Or maybe it is just too early to tell. She won't be put down in the day but will sleep in basket at night. Sometimes she'll sleep all night (11 til 7), sometimes I'll be up at 3 or 4am with her. Either way night times are pretty good so I guess it is a trade off. BF is still a nightmare, she has lazy latch and chomps on me, I'm still v sore. V close to switching to FF but struggling with guilt. She is also v windy and brings up a lot of curdled milk. But she is just beautiful and gives me the most enormous face-splitting grins!

I think a lot of my problem (and I don't often admit this as I get flamed for it) is I find the newborn stage dull, stifling, suffocating. I know most people adore newborns but I can't wait for the toddler stage, and then I want to slow down time as I love that bit. .

I'm suffering huge guilt wrt Boo also. I am spending so much of my time feeding, winding and then trying to settle BB that I don't have enough time for Boo and I hate that.

silv I am in the wilds of south Somerset. Middle of the arse end of nowhere, about an hr and a bit south of that spa curls. In fact i used to frequent that place years ago when my sister worked there, it is bloody lovely! I'd be well up for that and if BB is not on FF by then I will express and leave her at home - TG is obv feeling guilty and has promised to have both the girls for me.

Ah poo my poor lambkin. At least there was a compromise i suppose. They really have no idea, bless their hairy arse cracks.

Hope all ok generally. Am back from hols. If i told you that Rastus cut his first tooth whilst we were out there does it give you a mental picture of what the hol was like?

Sorry about the holiday/teething nightmare Cunty, would I be right in guessing you need another holiday to get over it? We had our first family holiday in Cornwall when boo was 5 months - TG spent all wk resting as he was not at work. I on the other hand did everything I would have done at home and more. Came back fecking exhausted and threatening divorce!

And @ 'bless their hairy arse cracks'. You do have such a way with words cunty!

Quick question... BB slept through last night (praise be to alan) and I have therefore woken up with 2 ginormous leaky breasts. Have obv fed her from one side - should I express the other or wait til 10 for her nxt feed. Tis bloody agony!

I'm not an authority on the matter, but I would say express just enough to feel comfortable rather than empty, because you might continue to produce that much if the demand is there?
Or empty with a view to giving it in a bottle?

All I know is that when I stopped feeding, I just always hand expressed only enough to feel comfortable and all calmed down within about a week. I can still get a few drops if i squeeze though!

Glad you had a lovely walk etc pol. And a good night!

Baby free spa sounding like a plan! As much as it would be nice to meet the offspring, I think we all need a break

And, pol, please try not to feel guilty about considering the switch to FF. I know that is easier said thanb done, but it's about about keeping you both healthy and happy.

Well we have a boy with d&v. he vommed all over tgo in Ask in york, it was most amusing. tho obv would not have been amusing if he had vommed on me!

Sorry to hear that cos. I hope he recovers soon, poor little lamb.

Thanks Casp. That was what I thought wrt milk, but seem to have trouble trusting my own instincts at.

Off to the rents again today, they are going to get sick of us! Happy sunday all.

Have a good time pols

Sorry to hear about sicky babies. Hope Artie recovers quickly cossie

I know I say this all the time, but Squeaker's curdled milk vom and her unwillingness to feed properly (both me and bottles got/get chomped) were down to the reflux - which seems to have stopped now she'd sitting up! Hurray!

She's still a nightmare to feed milk to though (we've just had and "I'm hungry but won;t drink" battle). I actually can't wait until she is fully weaned. She rather eat a slice of toast than drink a bottle when fully awake. And the less she naps, the fewer opportunities I have to get a good milk feed down her

Miracle: I have been left alone in the house for purposes of unpacking boxes, so this is a very sneaky post just to say COUNT ME IN! 'Tis 2 hour drive from here. I think I might be able to swing it sans sprogs.

So excited to meet more FESHes! But aghast at how fat and unglamourous I am. You will be kind, won't you?

polls He is right out of order. I have MrP's cricket bat to hand - please send word if I am needed to join the posse. And as you know from my posts, my life atm is just one long breakdown. Keeping my head above water but that's about it.

cos Sorry about Artie's vom in a public place. (Mental image cheered me up though!)

Also thinking happy, gooey thoughts for ginhag. Join us soon.

FP you are a stunner don't talk yourself down!

can we saay bring baby if you want and not if you don't? don't want to exclude people who have to bring em along.

Hear, hear cos on both counts. I have seen pictures of fanny and she's neither fat nor unglam!

Whether or not I bring Squeaks will depend on dates. But others will also be tied because of BFing etc. Personal choice entirely! (Although I am erring on the side of ditching her, given current behaviour!)

BTW that link was to just one option. Another offers discount and free champers before dinner if 8 or more book as a group...

Maybe some differs and other ESHs will be up for it too?

And we have to decide when. March? Weekend or weekday? Ok, I'm getting carried away at the thought now, and should still be working.

March works for me, would prefer week as feel tgo would miss out on Artie time if it was w/end.

Gals advice plz - MB keeps shoving hands/fists in gob, screaming and pulling legs up. Not dissimilar to when he gets wind when feeding tho he was fed nearly two hours ago. As alps would say Teef? Or pains in tum?

I don't mind what part of the week! Whether I can come sans le bebe depends on whether HI is working or not. We may be away in March tis all up in the air at the mo.

trapped wind? tried bicycle legs?