June 2009 - terrible twos here we come

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Here we are ladies

Hello all - just a quick one as am feeling a little pooped but Otis arrived yesterday morning and was a whopping 9lbs.. he got a bit stuck so had the joy of another forceps birth - I thought that was almost unheard of! Found it much, much tougher this time round but worth it as he's a lot more chilled out than J is (for now though, seeing as he's only a day old ). Don't think I'll be having anymore EVER - until O hits J's age and I know I'll get broody again...

Hope everyone is still sucking up the Xmas vibes - opened my Toblerone this evening so am well set up for a night on the sofa with lo attached and lots of chocolate!

Take it easy all and will try to pop back and actually get a chance to read all your posts soon!

skillbo marvellous news.congrats on the safe, but clearly knackering, arrival of Otis. Fab name.thanks so much for letting us know. Now back to sofa or bed for you+ don't you be doing anything but feeding+ resting

Hi everyone, I'm lurking not posting.we are the house of the tummy bug.I was last to get it today.coupled with z being an unsettleble screaming banshee the last week between 2-4am makes a tired me. Anyway, hope you are all ok+I will sort a less me me post tom

Congratulations Skillbo and welcome Otis Glad he arrived safe and well, hope you are not too sore, you surely deserve lots of chocolate, at 9lbs he must be a guzzler!

Snow poor you, hope the tummy bug clears quickly it is tough being sick with one sick let alone two so close in age x

fab news skillbo, congratulations enjoy your newborn snuggles with O and J I highly recommend tv, chocs and feet up for at least the next week

snow, hope you're feeling better soon!

gauchita, you are clearly doing an excellent job of feeding D, he's growing up so quickly! Hope mil was behaving, not long to go now and she'll be far, far away

zhen hope all's good with you.

anyone doing anything for new year? We don't really bother and I'm usually snoring on the sofa by midnight, where did that old gimmer emoticon go

waves to all

Heya, sorry to hear you have a tummy bug snow I think I got food poisoning from a restaurant on Thursday my belly's not been right since at least I hope it's not a bug (I really don't feel sick, just belly not been right and can't face eating anything at the moment) because a couple of friends and their children are coming over tomorrow afternoon for tea for the kids and drinks and nibbles for us.

ninja we usually don't do anything either and this year decided to have some friends round for a little bit until the kids go to sleep basically, so...early new year. I probably won't make it 'till midnight anyway, so tired from xmas celebrations and having people over.

Congrats skillbo, O is a great name :D Enjoy your Toblerone, sounds yummy!

gauchita hope you're doing ok, how was meeting with mil? (mine got C another (smaller) rocking horse this year .

Hi all,

Skillbo, aw how lovely Huge congratulations to you! O is a fab name. Hope you're getting lots of newborn cuddles. Take care. Hope we can see a pic of O soon xxx

June, hope you feel better. Tummy troubles are a PITA. Oh man, to your MIL. Why why why would she give her another one? Our meeting on Wed was as usual, weird She has reached new low levels by trying to "win" M over by laughing whenever M says "no" to something I ask So of course M laughs as well and doesn't obey. She also brings 4-5 gifts every time we meet her, she swears that's the only way M will love her M doesn't mention her in between meetings and even during an outing M says "no" to things she asks her to do if she doesn't want to do them (as any child would do). The latest antic... M was drinking her milk next to me while I fed D in the park. She sat opposite us and when I looked up (I was wearing sunglasses) I saw her holding a doll and moving her mouth asking M in a sort of sneaky way to go with her

Hey everyone, tis the season to have a tummy bug I see :(

Hope everyone is starting to feel better x

I am trying out my new name in preparation for the new arrival. Have been nesting today, sorting out how to fit cot in our room and buying some bits and pieces in the sale :)

N is back eating and is making up for lost time, she asked for more dinner today

Was meant to be babysitting for SIL, but she isn't going now so we are going to stay there tomorrow to see in the new year. We will be taking our kitten with us to see his sister who lives with SIL as don't want to leave him alone with fireworks going off.

Have got scan on Tuesday (32 weeks) to check placenta so I will know then if having ELCS or VBAC. Very excited to see bump and get an estimate of how big they think she is so I can see how much newborn clothing I will need (DD was in 0-3 months after just over a week!). Not that they are always accurate, but will be lovely to see her again She is very active and spends a lot of time horizontal/diagonal still which is not comfortable with her strong well aimed kicks at my ribs or nether regions!

afternoon all

june, your fb pic is great, you've done brilliantly this last year!! I saw the rocking horse and thought how much more suitable it was then mil's one so to read that mil got another (sorry) haha Enjoy your evening

gauchita, can't you get M to ask for clothes for D from mil She sounds barmy, just keep repeating, not long now, not long now!

zhen, great name! Good luck for your scan, are you hoping for vbac? Yay for N being on the mend

enjoy whatever you're doing tonight ladies, happy new year

hi everyone
lovely to see lots of messages on here! Ninja started this thread over a year ago, we really should try and get to 1000 posts before the little ones turn 3. Perhaps that could be a new year's resolution

Writing this from the sofa. P+P on, the Keira version, and enjoying watching in peace as both DD+DS are asleep (and DH!). As much as I can't stand KK, I love P+P and read it at least once a year.

Bad night with the tummy bug.Thankfully the kids are over the worst of it. Planned a lovely meal for DH+I tonight, hoping to feel a bit better.

skillbo hope you are enjoying the newborn cuddles and breathing in that wonderful newborn smell.How is J adapting to her borther's arrival?

zhen how exciting, the nesting has really begun. I hope all goes well with the scan. I love that your kitten will join in the NYE celebrations . Your new name is fabulous, v clever.

june I hope you are on the mend . Really pleased the christmas celebrations went well. but WTF about another rocking horse. Crazy. You have had a great year on your fitness/weight. I am really going to try a bit harder in 2012. There is a gym 20mins away (about the closest anything is around here), I am going to look at doing some classes. My weight was always easy to control when i ran/gymed it

speaking of crazy gauchita your MIL really takes the . What a bizarre woman. You are coping so brilliantly, a true testament to your strength. Hope you have someone to give you a big hug and I am sure 2012 will be a much better year. D is a whopper! Go baby! Will he even fit in the aeroplane bassinette on the way home . I hope you get the visas soon, is there any hope they will process them before the end of january? 24 days to go?? Looks like I might be headed to BRZ in feb, just waiting for work to sort things-sure it will be typcially last minute as they always are.

ninja so pleased you had a nice christmas. the bob tollbox sounds fab. A was totally into opening presents this year too. My dad bought him a toddler age mechanno set, so he and DH have had a wonderful time building!

Our christmas was a mixed bag really. Some lovely times, the kids were fabulous and the inlaws are so helpful. DH on the other hand was not in good form at times. Angry, stressed and got himself stupidly pissed on the night before christmas eve when he was supposed to be on his first night duty with Z since we got back. Of course, he was in no state to look after her. He cannot cope with prolonged crying, and becomes a complete pig sometimes. I called him on it, we had a huge argument and poor MIL had to intervene. What really fcks me off is that she was busy telling me how tired DH was, etc etc as an excuse for his rotten bahaviour. I know competitive tiredness is pointless, but the man has had 3 weeks to please himself, no childcare, and only does one night a week of Z duty at best, tired my arse. I'm afraid I told her like it was, wihtout losing my temper, that her son was a difficult person to live with, that he couldnt be too tired as he rarely had an interuppted night's sleep, and that it was about time he learnt to cope with a crying child. DH, to his credit, admitted to his parents what a bstard he has been at timesetc etc. We had a looooooong, calm chat the other night, I hope that 2012 will be a better year for us

Gosh, that was carthatic, sorry everyone to burden you with that, it is just that you have been such a support, and I don't discuss my marital woes with many people in RL.

Happy 2012 juners, hope it brings much happiness

Hi ladies,

June, fab pic on your FB, I'm proud of you, girl!

Zhen, aw how lovely to get to see the baby again Hope the placenta has moved to a nice place I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Ninja, she is a real b*tch No, whatever I suggest she needs she specifically does not buy M and I made a calendar with the days and we're crossing them out Not long now

Snow, aw honey what a mix of things... I'm glad you called DH up on those things, remaining quiet and letting these things pass by is 100 times worse. And SO glad he owned up to things in front of his parents, otherwise he'd have made you look like a loon I really hope he gets his act together and starts addressing whatever it is that's making him be the way he is with you atm. Babies cry, A cried, he should be able to cope with that by now, it's not as if Z's just been born and is your first-born Here's that to a fresh, new and great 2012 for you two ((hug))

I second what Snow said in her last post, here's for a big toast to you, ladies. I'm proud to belong to this group, you're such a huge support, I can't really express it well with words.

Have a happy happy new year, Juners. All the best wishes for you and your families

xxx

Happy new year Juners!!!

Happy New Year guys, a special thought for you all, as the others have said, this thread has proved a real support in the toughest times xoxo.

Thanks for the kind messages for the weight loss and the fb pic. I'll try and put it on my profile.

snow it sounds like dh knows when he's being a prat, gosh I really hope he acts on it though and becomes the husband he can be and you deserve. Lots of hugs.

gauchita 2012 will be a better year for you. You are such a strong woman. Lots of hugs from here and can't wait to have you back.

Happy New Year everyone :)

Here's to a good year where things go right and spouses/family members behave themselves! x

We really should try and have another meet at some point in 2012 x

Morning all!

Ok, rant alert, I really need a good moan, apologies in advance.

I'm exhausted, blinking tired and this potty training step-back tires me even more.

f*cking MIL is absolutely vile. Yesterday M tripped and fell on the playground and started calling me. I heard and started walking her way only to see MIL tell her "no no, it's OK" and turn her around to start walking the other way. WTAF? So now M can't possibly need me. I seriously don't know what this woman has in her brain. Oh, another one, if I ask M to do something, she rolls her eyes and says "M, your mother wants you to put on your shoes, come on, put them on" in an oh-the-nut-that-your-mother-is-unreasonably-wants-you-to-put-on-your-shoes-not-me-no-I'm-fab-and-wouldn't-ask-you-that kind of tone. I feel like strangling her, ladies.

To make matters worse, DH told me the other day he doesn't understand why I tell him these things that happen as there's nothing he can do about it... that he doesn't know what I expect of him with this... I f*ucking know he can't actually do anything about it but I need to vent, at least, or I'll commit murder or suicide. I'm stuck here, with a toddler and an infant, with no help, at someone else's home, putting up with gazillion bollocks and now I also have to STFU??? Rubbish!!

Oh the rage, the rage!!!

Sorry, DH, if I can't be the super-woman I'm supposed to be, all poised and calm at this utterly rubbish time of my life. Sorry I can't be philosophical about it and just enjoy the blinking heat as if I were on holiday. THIS. IS. NOT. A. F*UCKING. HOLIDAY.

Sorry ladies for this rubbish post, I feel I could explode. Ignore me.

morning all

gauchita, ((((hugs)))) mil is being truely toxic, dh is just the person to be moaning at but probably a bit like my dh, he doesn't get the need to offload on someone who understands, I take it he's not moaning about anything at home then?! Can't you develop something highly contagious for the rest of your stay keep ticking off the days, you'll be home soon and mil will be thousands of miles away, never mind the time off from the dcs that dh owes you! Can you book a nice treat for yourself that involves being child free for a couple of hours once you're back? Much as I love my kids time away from them is much needed on ocassion! If it's any consolation we have driving rain and very strong winds in the UK currently, not a going out day at all. Come and offload here whenever you need to Loved your photo of D, he's certainly growing fast, he looked quite the grown up boy.

snow, hope you felt better for your meal. Good on dh for recognising he was out of order and owning up to mil, here's hoping it's the start of an improvement, life's not easy when you feel like the one doing everything child related . My dh keeps trying to buy E a scalextric (sp?) set, apparently he really needs one now the house is almost back to the usual chaos I should really get the wooden train set out again I E would love to play with that again.

zhen, hope all goes well with your scan today We should plan another meet up, although preferably when we have better weather

skillbo, hope all's well with you, healing nicely and hopefully some sleep!

june, you've done brilliantly with your weight loss, you look fab!!

dcs are back to school tomorrow, the holidays just seem to have flown by! Although I will be very glad that my days won't be filled with peppa bloody pig all the time, that will be a blessed relief but it does mean getting back into the 6.30am starts, not so nice at this time of the year and the next round of appointments and chasing paperwork and boots/hearing aids for dd3.

waves to all

gauchita darling, you rant away all you like.you have been absolutely incredible through this whole mess+DH should recognise+acknowledge this.the two kids by yourself 24/7 for weeks on end, the visa debacle, bitch mil-you have been so accepting,strong and a super mum through everything.
Are there any friends you can call for a chat? We are here for you anytime too!
Bugger,z not settling,back shortly

Hey ladies,

Thanks for reading It felt good to get all that out

Snow, Only a few friends who can actually listen here unfortunately. Everybody is away on holiday or on their own things. How are you feeling? Stomach all better now?

Ninja, I doubt I'll get any real downtime. My dad and DB are arriving on 26/1 (one day after us) I was supposed to have a month in between but there you go... Yay for school tomorrow and some hot cups of tea 6.30am wake-up call, on the other hand not so tempting huh?

Zhen, hope the scan went well and the placenta has moved to a good place

June, when's the next race? I showed DH your pic (as he has seen you face to face) and he didn't recognise you! He said you look great!

M wants food, back later.

Hello ladies! Massive to all you lovely Juners to celebrate a new year and to say thanks for all your support across the last two and a half years (where has that gone??)

O is a bit of a pickle - hungriest baby ever (well, in comparison to J) and just seems to want to feast on me so have been pinned to the sofa for the last few days, and nights! Am hoping he starts to settle a little bit as am starting to suffer with the lack of sleep. DH has been pretty amazing though, taking J out to give me a break although O then doesn't sleep so it's just quieter . I think it's my lack of sleep but we've been snapping at each other a fair bit as well - mainly due to his wealth of sleep probably... it is miserable being so tired and I don't think you can measure the benefit of a full nights sleep (luckily J is still sleeping really well!)

Anyways, Guachita - you have the patience of a saint if the last couple of posts about MIL are anything to go by. I missed the beginning of your saga but she sounds a nightmare!! My MIL can be a bit, well tbf, very annoying (left DH sleepnig on the floor the day we came home from the hospital as she didn't want to disturb but had no qualms about coming through and bugging me when trying to get bf established and just wanted some quiet time!!)... BUT - she is incredibly supportive and would never try to undermine us to our own children. What a bitch - at least you can escape her soon and never have to go there without DH again. And your DH needs to get a bit of a grip too - it's his DM so I am sure he knows what she's like...

June - you look amazing, I am in awe of your weight loss... very inspiring and am hoping I can kick start some sort of regime this year. Just got to get the will power (and time) to really concentrate on it.

Snow - I really hope DH has pulled his socks up the last few days. As others have said, at least he was able to admit he hasn't been as supportive as he could've been it's just a shame you had to have the row to start it all off. At least his parents now know so will hopefully be in your corner a bit more!

Ninja - hope the first school run went well. J starts nursery tomorrow and we've got to get her up for 7.30 which may seem quite late but she's a late sleeper so am a bit worried. Reckon O will be up anyway so hopefully she'll be ok..

It was DH's birthday today and felt soooo bad as hadn't got him a present or a card or anything. I know it's all been a bit hectic but O didn't exactly come out of nowhere so could have been a bit prepared We did have takeout pizza though which made him happy.. thankfully, it's his 29th this year so next year when he hits 30, we can look back on this year and smile and really do something special!

Right - O is stirring (what a surprise) so am going to do a quick loo run and brace myself for another few hours of E bloody 4!

Hello everyone :)

Well had my scan yesterday, baby fine all measurements normal, fluid good and my placenta has moved out of the way of my cervix so I can VBAC rather than ELCS yay

Slightly daunted now by prospect of another 9-10 weeks of being pregnant followed by the 'ring of fire', but hey that beats another CS.

Gauchita feel free to rant as much as you need to, men in my experience like to be able to 'fix' things, if they can't fix it they feel useless and they don't see just listening as 'fixing' so don't understand our need to offload grrr!

Skillbo glad to hear O is doing well and that J has coped well with transition. Oh the lack of sleep, I remember it well, remind me why I am doing it all again???

Ninja hope the first school run of the term went ok, you must be relishing the quiet and opportunity to have a warm cup of . I also have the Peppa Pig problem, I am glad that playgroup is starting up again so that I can take DD out to escape, although the theme tune constantly pops into my head

Snow hope everything is ok with you post-Christmas and that DH is keeping his promises for 2012.

June hope all is well with you too.

evening all

zhen, fab news, pleased to hear all's well

skillbo, O is a real sweetie, sympathies on the lack of sleep.

gauchita, are they staying long? Sounds like a real opportunity for some male bonding and time with the kids so you can get out for a couple of hours, plenty of extra hands for dh!

snow, hope Z's ok, still teething?

this morning was relatively painless but they all started school a little later than usual so not the early morning rush that we will have tomorrow. But I did manage a few hot cuppas which was lovely. E wanted to go to school too, wasn't impressed when I said he has to wait till tomorrow for preschool to start up again. Also a little bored when all his playmates disappeared for the day.

waves to all

zhen VBAC here you come. How exciting. Birthing ball/TENS/ etc etc. Oh, and I meant to say, I have a spare copy of the book ' House inside my mummy', a lovely rhyming book about the arrival of a new baby. Would you like me to post it? I had bought it for my sister but she bought it the same day.

ninja 3 days of school, 2 very early mornings, how are you coping?. E back in the swing of nursery? A goes back next week. I can't wait, neither can he

skillbo oh thr sleep deprivation is excruciating isn't it. Can you cat nap? Co-sleep? Get DH to take them both out for a walk and have a little quiet time once the feeding frenzy settles. I hope you have lots of yummy, easy treats within arms reach to keep up the strength

june thought of you with a smile at lunch today as I turned down the crisps and ate the delicious soup i made this morning. Struggling to get any exercise done wit hthe weather bring so horrid, I can't even get out for a walk with the kids. I ordered the thirty day shred, so start that Monday. Now you have done such incredible weight loss and fitness gain, what are your goals for 2012?

gauchita everything is crossed here.

Supposed to be away with work for a week, starting monday. Trip cancelled last minute late last night, so looking forward to getting A back to school on Monday and having a catch up week instead.

Hope you all ok.

Heya!

skillbo Hope the sleep situation improves, it is sooo hard to function with a newborn and no sleep. At the moment a typical night for me goes: midnight: I go to bed, one o'clock, C wakes up to go to the toilet, two o'clock, C wakes up and wants to sleep in my bed, 4 o'clock, dh comes to bed and wakes me up, 5 o'clock C wakes up and wants the toilet again, 6 o'clock C wakes up and wants milk and peppabloodypig (ninja I feel the same, heard that tune way too much over the holiday!!!!!!). I feel like locking myself in the spare room at 9pm and emerging again only at 7am.

zhen great news about your placenta :D hope the last few weeks aren't too long for you.x
snow hope you're ok, any more travelling planned? how is the house coming along? all settled in now?
ninja how did the school run go the next day? I find it hard enough to get dd and myself organised and barely make it on time to nursery...
gauchita rant away, that's what we're here for :D dh is the same "what do you want me to do about it" men!!! Your mil is a loon and you're so good even meeting up with her and putting up with her bullshit (I know,I know if you do't then you're the bad guy...) hope the potty training situation improves for you, it must be quite weird for M to be in a different country and not have seen her dad for a while, he must be missing you all so much, it's a very difficult situation you are in and you're doing so well and being so strong. Hope it's over soon xxx

Well, we dropped C. off to nursery and went to the cinema this afternoon, I had not been in 2.5 years!!! (We used to go every sunday evening) It was bliss, watching a film uninterrupted had not happened to me in YEARS! Even at home when we watch a dvd, dh is a smoker and needs breaks...
I absolutely enjoyed every minute ( 'twas "Mission Impossible 4"). Dh got a bit bored towards the end - it is over 2 hours long - but I hope it hasn't put him off I really want to see the one with Daniel Craig soon too!

I have to get going, thanks for the kind words about my weight loss, very proud of myself and ready to move on (looking into powerlifting competition and obstacle courses at the moment!) and moreover ready to stop talking about my weight loss, like I'd never put it on in the first place :)

take care juners xxx

Evening ladies,

Not quite as late here but I'm knackered so a quick post.

Thanks a lot for your thoughts, first of all! I should be getting a second email in the next week-10 days, so, as my nn says, I shall keep my fingers crossed

June, that sounds very tiring indeed. M's waking up at 6 now, well, she has done for the past 5 days . She used to wake up at 7.30 before then and it was bliss Glad you enjoyed the film I think it's been 3 years since I last went to the cinema What's powerlifting? Is it what I'm thinking it is?

Snow, sorry the trip was cancelled last minute, but I bet inside you're a bit happy you'll be staying You can now enjoy the first week of A at nursery

Zhen, yay! PG-friendly VBAC for you, lady! So happy the scan went well. Bugs all gone now at the Zhen household? Hope N is all better now.

Skillbo, my sympathies. D is a very hungry baby (he's 8.5kg at 4mths FGS!) so I know what you mean. Hope you can cat-nap a bit and get some rest in between feeds. How's J doing with the new arrival? The pic on FB of him on his car seat was lovely, how tiny they are!!

Ninja, awww how cute was E wanting to go to nursery as well I hope he enjoyed the rest of the week at it then. Is he going 3 times a week? You know what, you're right! My dad is a very good guest, he doesn't expect to be "served" and is very hands on at home so I bet they will both come in handy My brother is the best baby sitter ever! When I've visited them he's always looked after M so well. Mwah, thanks for that thought/idea!

Right, scorching heat here today, 37 degrees!!! It's gone all windy now and temp is supposed to drop tomorrow at least to 26-27. A friend is coming over and we'll go to the pool with the DC. M has never liked pools too much but now loves them!

Met MIL today but fortunately talked to SIL in the car on the way over there so that she'd help me be the "buffer", i.e, when I say "we have to go now" she helps make MIL move, etc. I was very careful with my request and did not engage in a talk about MIL (it's her mother, after all) but she understood perfectly what I meant and was glad to help so that's good.

Off to have a shower and then to bed

Hope you have a lovely weekend, Juners!

Waves!

Evening all!

Ninja, that was hilarious!!! I actually had to read the first part twice as I didn't get it Aw, thanks