Totally's postgrads - you know who you are.

[Meita]

Totally's original thread was for TTC after MC. It continued long after Totally herself graduated, and is still going strong. Totally's grads was set up as a thread for pregnancy post MC - i.e. anyone who graduated from Totally's thread and anyone else who had experienced MC and was now pregnant. It, too, is still going strong.

Now, more and more of us have graduated from Totally's grads - including LouiseSH, whose Georgie was born asleep. I suppose that makes us postgrads. We have travelled together for a long time and would like to stay in touch, but the pregnancy post MC thread is starting to get very big, and I think it should be allowed to keep its focus on pregnancy post MC. May it be as wonderful a place for support for current "members" as it was for us.

So this thread is a place for us to keep in touch, share experiences, and provide support.

(This is the first time ever I'm starting a thread - hope it works out...)

Good to hear that GBOS is on track, Louise.
Someone I know who had conceived by IVF and then her baby daughter died a few days after her due date and was stillborn, has recently decided they weren't going to try for a brother or sister. The emotional stress is just too extreme, particularly of the IVF. The couldn't bear to get their hopes up given such uncertain results, they just feel too frail. I can so understand them, but also feel sad for them.
How are you doing? I imagine it's all a bit of a rollercoaster.

Wonderful news Louise

Dorcas you are not the only one whose baby takes forever to get to sleep. Takes an hour or more of feeding to get my girl to drop off at night. Rocking/patting has no impact whatsoever.

She woke at 4am today and I am having real difficulties getting her back down again. First she filled her nappy so that had to be changed. Then her nose was all stuffed up and clearing it out left her wide awake. Please let this boob do the trick!

We had quite good sleep here until the 12 week growth spurt. It took a long time to settle her but she was sleeping 10-5/6am. By the time I get that back she'll hit the 4 month sleep regression.

Fingers crossed that she went to sleep soon after you posted Muser.

After taking 2 hours to initially put down last night, N was much quicker to settle after night feeds which is good. What was less good was waking at 2/4/6 am. Oh well- at least he spent the whole night in his crib rather than on me!

Loopy how's the feeding going now?

She sort of fell asleep soon after. She was sleepy enough to put down and fell asleep herself fairly quickly. I think, maybe I just fell asleep quickly!

Another waving hello from the Land of Sleep Deprived. He did a LOT better just night just waking 11.30, 3.30, 5, 7.

Meita at DP's 17, er 1, wakings.

Louise great news on GBOS.

Off for a picnic in the park today with friend with 7 month and toddler. She's finding it very tough, littlun not sleeping and DD1 a handful. Seems there's a lot of it about!

Wishing everyone a good day x

What would I do without you ladies?

Down at 6.45 (and it takes half an hour of feeding, dummy and hand-holding (!) here every night Dorcas) then inexplicably awake at 8.15 which despite all my efforts turned into a full screaming fit so I fed her at 9.

Up at 11.30, 1.45, 4 and 6.15 when she came into bed with me. For some reason though settling wasn't working last night. Usually when I put her dummy in it's head to the side ready to sleep, but last night I had to feed her every time, although in some ways that's almost less hassle as I can sit down instead of bending over the basket.

Louise what brilliant news, I'm so thrilled for you.

Gi1da have a lovely day in the park. I'm meeting up with some MN mums and mums to be (including owlbooty from the grads thread) which is lovely.

Hope the weekend brings everyone a chance to rest!

Wonderful news Louise! you'll be starting to feel kicks soon!
Muser, TMT and northern it's so good to know I am not the only one! And Muser, I completely empathise on the snotty nose issues. Little D is quite a snotty wee baby, snorts like a piggy at times and has been known to wake herself up with her stuffy nose Things have improved a lot since I started spraying saline solution up her nose before bed. Tried squirting breastmilk but couldn't get the angle right...
Gilda enjoy the park. Uh oh, baby crying, got to run...

Big hurray for Louise - am so thrilled that GBOS is thriving. He or she will be here before you know it.

Thanks again for all your advice re. P's jaundice - the good news is that since my last post, it has all but cleared, save for the whites of her eyes, so hopefully that's a corner turned. Will be interesting to see whether her weight gain improves now, especially as her alert phases increase. If not, am tempted to call the breastfeeding counsellor, just to check whether her latch is okay.

It's also really interesting reading all your comments about your LO's sleep - or lack of! Last night was our first 'bad' night with P where she simply wouldn't settle and i have to admit it made me feel grateful that she's been so content at night so far (albeit she is only three weeks old!)

Anyway, hope you're all well. Big love xxxxxxx

Muser I was up at the same time as you... early morning... but I. only went back to sleep for about 45 minutes and then was up for the day. Well, awake anyway. Sitting and playing in the big bed between DP and me while we were trying to get some more sleep while occasionally grabbing a foot to stop him from climbing (head first of course) off the bed. It's a good thing that his sleeping bag restricts his mobility... Anyway that puts me in the camp of the sleep deprived as well...
DP is convinced I. said 'Papa' this morning

Glad to hear the jaundice is clearing up Viv. Yeah, at that stage (and for a while yet - I think we here are still at THAT stage too) it seems that as soon as you have 'figured out' your baby or settled into something resembling a routine, it all changes. You just have to go with the flow, I suppose!

Sorry to hear the LHS is problematic again Loopy. I'm sure you ARE getting there. Sounds like quite a setback, but with your persevering, I hope it will be much improved soon.

TMT that sounds like a lovely meet-up! Enjoy! I agree that feeding is often the lazy option...

Re bad sleeping/early wakings... I think it's got to have something to do with how early it gets light these days. Am thinking of investing in a black-out blind or such. Anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks everyone . Great to read you read you re all doing well much less sleep deprived!!! Hope all babies are thriving and bouncing . Will keep you all updated 20 wk scan on 16 th June may know then if GBOS is Georgie' s brother or sister!!!
Lots of love all xxxx

Meita how sad for your friend. Can completely understand where she's coming from about not ttc especially after enduring IVF. I m not too bad sometimes I just can t see how we can get to the end but sometimes I m very detached . I ve referred myself back to my counsellor seeing her in 2 weeks time. As you know giving up was never an option for us xx

Louise - brilliant news about your scan. So pleased all's going well for you!

Another zombie here I'm afraid, last two nights C has been wide awake and raring to go at 4am. In fact she didn't really settle after her 1am feed last night until I took her into bed with me at 4am. Gah. Fingers crossed tonight is better.

Thanks Meita I'm going to get the book tomorrow and give it a go.. I've been reading a bit about it online and it definitely does sound good. Thanks for the tip .

Magic - C is very similar to spiderbabies during the day, will sleep anywhere during the day other than cot but generally only after having had a bottle.. however at nighttime she pants as soon as she gets out of the bath as she wants her bottle and cot. it's more during hte night then when she wakes that sometimes it's a little challenge but it's more the starting the day at 5.30 that is proving tiring but soo worth it cos she is super super amazing and cute . How are spider babies doing? I can't believe you are doing aerobics as well you are great!! I've only just started properly back at the gym

Oh clareanna enjoy that nighttime routine!!! C used to be like that and then just suddenly stopped.. so def def enjoy it!

How is BF going Loopy? Hope it's going a bit better..

Northern we were the exact same except ours started to change at about 17 weeks after it being absolutely fab from about 4 weeks! Hope it's going well now

Alba hope the engorgement is getting better

Penguin Karvel drops are great as on the sheet after using the saline drops..

TMT how are you doing ? hope things are a bit better now

Dorcas you are certainly NOT alone!!

We had blackout curtains but i have been convinced they caused C to wake at 5am the last few nights ready to start the day so we have now put up magic blackout blinds.. i had been hopeful it would at least help try to get her back to sleep even until 6 and I'd be over the moon (she also wakes at 3 for a feed and can take 30 mins to get back down at the moment) but then the poor little thing was sick tonight in her cot, she is so little and cute and just wanted to sleep she was angry I think that she had woken but she is back down now but as a result no idea how much she will wake tonight as she pretty much threw up her tea and bedtime bottle although she had another few ounces to settle back down. Awwh i just love her so so much i just hope she is okay. She is like her daddy and needs her sleep, she is just sooo happy after a full nights sleep.. this all started at the 4 month regression for us but unfortunately we haven't managed to get her back since and she is 5.5 months now but not to worry at all at all

Viv great news about the jaundice

redhead here's to a better night tonight!

Louise so so so delighted for you re GBOS scan - great that you will be feeling kicks soon.. ah it's just great great that it is all going so well. Looking forward to hearing about your 20 week scan soon xx

Sorry that was such a mamoth post! I didn't realise it got so big!

Thanks redheadgal and happy glad alls going well with you both xx

oooo, we're going to need a new Fred very very soon...

How is everyone today?

Same feeds here last night even after a dream feed so we had dreamfeed 11, I woke at 3.20am surprised she wasn't awake, 3 mins later awake she was! Had a feed, settled herself back in her cot and then 5am awake again, unfortunately I was too lazy to try and settle in her cot so took her in with us and she slept til 7.. So although it doesn't sound great, I was delighted as it meant we started the day at 7am not 5am! I just don't know where she is putting all this milk and food, she has 3 meals a day and is still having her 25/30 oz but yet isn't putting on any extra weight just staying on the same curve. She does move alot but even still.. I wish I had her metabolism!!

So we will see what tonight brings.. I'd highly recommend the magic blackout blinds.

She was sick again this morning so I think she has my baby banana allergy.. I was in hosp for a week as a baby with it so took it really slowly giving her banana but she was totally fine then last night sick and it was in her fruit medley, this morning had banana porridge and up it all came again.. but has had her lunch and tea no problem so i think she must have it.. won't be giving her banana again for a while

C is here playing with a babywipes bag - likes the sounds it makes it seems!

Hope everyone is well

Have had a lovely weekend, although no more sleep. Actually last night wasn't so bad, she did 7.15 til 10.20, and then 10.40 til 1.40, which might be the longest session ever! But then she was up at 3.20, 3.45, 3.50 and 4.00 when I fed her again... but she wouldn't settle so into bed she came!

I quite like having her in bed in the morning, it's lovely, and DH likes it too, but I wish it was from 5.30 instead of 4 because once she's in my nipples don't get a rest, well it's that or I have to sleep in some comedy position so I can hold both her hands, or she wriggles!

We had a big crying session from 4-6 this afternoon, and I can't help but wonder if it is the profiterole I ate yesterday!! I hadn't thought going dairy free had made any difference since every time I go in to her she's farting, but maybe it has. I don't know! I'm holding out for weaning to be the thing that makes the difference, and so hope I'm right when we get there!

Brilliant news on the scan Louise, it's so good to have some good news! How exciting that we can soon say GB or GS, instead of GBOS! I'm still really feeling Dachs news, even though I don't know her, I can't imagine how awful it must be. the strength of some of you lot astounds me, and I'm so thankful too for J, sleep in the scheme of things isn't the be all and end all is it!

Right, must go eat. At 4am I will be silently thankful that somewhere RHG, Happy, Meita and possibly others will be up too... not that I wish it on you, I really hope you get lots of sleep, but it does make me feel better that I'm not the only one!

Restful evenings all, xx

And I can't believe we're about to need a new thread... how exciting!

Hello all. Busy weekend here visiting friends. Sleep is better but the nose is still causing problems. When she has her 4am wake up I end up having to clear it out which makes her scream and scream. I really feel for our neighbours! Perils of flat living.

Going to saline spray before bed tonight and hope it helps.

Hi all- started a new thread here using meita's lovely wording...
here

(Thought bubble, Homer Simpson style)

mmmmm,

Still not done... I'm not this obsessive about tidying up at home!