September 2010: windy bums, weaning starts to loom!

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A starter for 10 on our Sept 2010 babies as their first Christmas comes nearer! Can't believe we're there already; I was barely pregnant last Xmas!

Chelle, if you're still up and wondering about doing a dreamfeed - why don't you just see what happens if you don't? I used to dreamfeed the girls until quite recently (couple of weeks ago I think - babybrain so can't quite remember!) and since we dropped it, they both usually go right through the night now until DH gets thm up for morning feed at about 6.30am. Lucy woke a couple of times in the early hours last week but she had a cold and was taking a lot less in the day. If you try it and it doesn't work, you can always go for a dreamfeed tomorrow night?

Seng as people have been posting routines, here's mine. Sometimes the timings get mmoved around a bit but generally we do

6.30 wake up and feed
8/8.30ish nap in cots
10.30 feed
12.30 nap
3pm feed
4.30 nap
7pm feed
8pm bedtime

I always feel sorry for the girls because their naps get interrupted with having to do the nursery run for my boys so they are forever being moved from snug cosy cots to freezing cold car. It takes me longer to load up the car with children than it does to drive to the nursery!

I did think that after I posted and went to bed bellabelly. If you do one and it works you wouldn't know if it worked or they would have done that anyway!! Whereas you can always try tomorrow if it doesn't and will have saved yourself the work!!

This is the first time of being up to Luke and he went to bed at 7, that's almost 8 hrs without a feed!!! Shame I stayed up till 10.30 ( which I rarely do!!) so didn't get the full benefit

Morning all, Grace's "routine" went slightly to pot last night but i think it's her gums hurting her so can't really blame her for not going to sleep. However she went to bed at 10.30 and is still asleep now, better go and check on her in a minute. She was very restless in the night which meant i didn't sleep too well but she didn't technically wake up. Im wondering if her being in our room is affecting all our sleep, DP snores but i wear earplugs so it's not too bad but since we've had Grace i've slept a lot lighter than i used to and while the snoring doesn't really bother me im wondering if thats why Grace is quite restless in the night. Will talk to DP later about maybe putting her in her own room.

I've never been able to do a dream feed with Grace, she's far too alert and just wakes up if anyone touches her.

Better go and check on her - see you all in a bit

I daren't try a dream feed incase Amelie wakes and refuses to go back to sleep - the week after she had her jabs (not sure if it's related or not) she would sleep for till about midnight then would wake every hour till morning and be a grump all day and I got so stressed about sleeping I couldn't sleep when she did at all, I shiver at the thought of having to survive on such little sleep again - I was such horrible company to be around - I had to have a word with myself on several occasions!!!

Things are better now, she goes down about 7, feeds between 12-1, and again 3-4, and wakes 7-8. She missed out the 12-1 feed once but I woke anyway as my boobs were so full and sore!

I seem to be feeding her every 2 hours during the day - this seems like quite alot doesn't it? If I try and stretch her feeds will this affect her night sleeping?

Thanks to people posting advice on here...I always read with interest but never seem to have any wisdom of my own to share.

Just a quick question? Has anyoone else noticed a shift in behaviour over the last week or so? Since Grace hit 12 weeks she's like a different baby, can sit in her chair in the kitchen whilst i potter aboout and do stuff which she has never done before!! And now she's on her play matt happily kicking about while i have a brew and post on here. Up till this week she has needed constant entertaining and just wondered if this shift could be because she's getting older?

Zowina, i rarely have advice to give either! I feel like im very much winging it on a daily basis. My confidence took a serious dip last week and i felt like i didn't have a clue what i was doing and this week i seem ok again. Oh the joys of the emotional ups and downs of having a baby!

Hey everyone,

It's Louis 2nd round of jabs today. Last time wasn't too bad as he only cried until I fed him straight after, and then just slept loads for the next couple of days. Hope it wont be any worse this time. [foptimistic]

I don't do a dream feed as when I tried it Louis didn't want to wake up enough to feed, and when I persisted he woke too much and started to cry :(

Morning everyone - just a quick update as am off to doctors for my implant in a minute!

Well got him up for a dream feed at 10:30 and didn't disturb him too much - he went straight back off at 11 then was up at 2:30 for another bottle, back off at about half 3 til half seven. So not bad bearing in mind he went to bed at 8:30pm - but we can definately improve on that coz he didn't take as much food as he normally would have. Am happy with that for the first night though. Maybe I will try without one tonight depending on how much he takes at his last bottle?

Thanks to everyone who helped!

newmum - I think it probably is because she is growing up and taking more interest in things. However Olly is 10 weeks plus 4 and I find he has some days like you mention and some where he is a nightmare and needs constant entertaining!

And bot newmum and zowina it doesn't matter if you don't often have advice to give - its often eachothers support that we need most!

Catch you all l8r.x

mapletrees, I just got back home from taking the girls for their second round of jabs. I think mine cried more this time! But then went straight to sleep while the nurse did the paperwork. It does feel awful but I just keep focussing on all the horrible diseases that they hopefully are now protected against.

Had a bit of a heated discussion with DH last night about the fact that he'd promised to come with me and had then forgotten all about it. Should have known I wouldn't be able to let it go. We had quite a good chat (once I'd calmed down and stopped ranting!) and both admitted that we're finding things hard and it feels like there aren't enough hours in the day. So am feeling a bit more sympathetic and a bit more appreciated!

bella, it's good that you talked things though with your DH. We are all in such new situations that it's so important to know how each other is feeling. I keep telling myself the same thing about the jabs. I had mumps as a kid and it was so much more painful than any injection I ever had, and that was without any complications. I still remember waking up in the middle of the night and screaming at the top of my lungs as my neck/ear hurt so much

Just been having a flick through some other topics and has anyone read any of the treads on "Unconditional Parenting"? I haven't read much on it to be honest as it baffles me but someone has just been asking a question on how many options she should give her child on how to get ready in the mornings as she has to be out of the house at a certain time for work etc, IMO surely the only option needed is get dressed we need to leave the house??? I understand that the isea is to not lose your temper but is that really a parenting style?? Of course we'd all like to not lose our temper but as human beings this is going to happen sometimes. I know this is slightly off topic but it all seems very odd to me.

Oh and the gas man has just mistaken Grace for a boy even though she is wearing pink and every baby related accessory in my house is pink, he got very embarrassed when he asked "his" name and i said Grace

bella - i think it's easy to forget sometimes that our DP's lives have changed dramatically aswell. I think you were right to be pissed off with him for not going with you as the thought of taking Grace for her jabs on my own makes me feel a bit sick, seeing her cry like she did last time broke my heart, don't think i could cope with that on my own. But i suppose it seems to us sometimes like we never get a break and they do even if it's only going to work. But to be honest when i think of how much DP does when he gets home i think id be even more knackered if i was him having to get up and go to work every day. I've already started dreading going back to work and im not due back till May.

Must be jab day today, Luke had his second ones too. He only cried at the second one again and stopped as soon as I turned him round for a cuddle.

I had an arguement with dh last night bellabelly about our nappy bin and the fact that I hadn't emptied it. Nevermind that he has probably only changed 5-10 nappies since Luke was born but the fact that I had put nappies in the top and thought I'll do that later as Luke was asleep and I didn't want to disturb him was not an excuse, bloody man!!! Apparently I had had a shitty day and was taking it out on him, not that I had worked all day, looked after his children, cooked him tea and walked the dog and the only thing he could say was that he would have put the nappy in the bin but I hadn't bothered to empty it!!!

Glad it went well chelle1986, good luck for tonight.

newmum001 12 weeks is generally thought to be the breakthrough point with babies often becoming easier. I don't know anything about unconditional parenting and I agree that in the most part I am a put it on now parent, although I do think there are times to give in on the small things to give children a feeling of control but with the big things I mean it. Parenting is such a personal thing and if it works for someone then fair enough.

Sorry bellabelly I meant to say glad you sorted it all out!

First time for Maria-Ann to sleep in her cot last night. She settled more quickly but I found that she was cold so tonight think I will put a vest under her baby grow as in the moses basket she became too hot. I also use the 2.5 grow bag. A bit worried as she seems to move around quite a lot during the night, scared she might roll over and not be able to breath. Wot did everone else do to stop baby moving around so much a night. The cot she is in is a cot bed so quite big.

11+2

Evening all! So ...... I know it's not very mumsnetty to just ramble about me rather than ask or give advice but I am seriously worried!

DH is in the bathroom giving Jack his bath and so far I can fathom the following:

nose = nobody nose it better

Tummy = Tumminican Republic

knees = Kneegypt

Eyes = That's why Mum's gone to Eyesland!

legs = Thigh-ran-I-saw-a-rex and Pauline Calf

Toes = in the hole

Bottom = Buminican Republic

Nippleragua

Pleeeeease.... someone come and rescue me from this mad house!???

Hi all
Watersprite you can buy little pillow/cushions that stop them rolling over. I just roll up a small handtowel and tuck it in her side down by her waist - does the trick.

Chelle know what you mean about facebook. Is there anyway we can set our chats there so that they dont come up to the mass public?
Im a bit protective about this site - you lot are my sanity and dont feel like sharing ye!

Phoebe does wake up when I 'dream feed' her. I cant help but interact with her. After a a few nights tho she just got into the habit of nodding off straight after as did the boys. They dont keep up the dream feed stage for long but to be honest I found it invaluable insofar as they get used to you rumaging around and still not off. Until the boys were dry at night I always check their nappies. Up until they were 2 I used to always change their nappies at that time as I found no nappy that could go 12 hours. It saves me loads of washing and they take no notice. In fact by 6 months they dont even wake. My friends are astounded by this and I put it all down to starting with the dream feed.

Im so tired these days. Tummy a bit dodge. Hope its not going back to its evil ways! think tho hitting the 3 month mark of very little sleep and juggling the 3 of them wearing me down. It always seems when Phoebe has a good night the boys dont! Must try to go to bed early tonight!

Meant to say 'still nod off'

beadit

Tonight DP discovered that Louis bounces but doesn't cry when dropped on his head onto to sofa

onto the sofa

maples DH keeps asking if we an throw him yet!??
Glad we're not the only ones!

Has she started rolling during the day watersprite? If not I wouldn't worry, plus as long as there isn't anything in the cot with her there's nothing to stop her breathing.

Your oh sounds like my stepdad beaditAli, nothing has it's proper name!!

I don't think anyone else can see our posts within the group mammyG but will ask a friend of mine to check what she can read when I post in the group to be sure.

Luke went to sleep at 4.30, just woke up half an hour ago fed and went straight back to sleep. I'm a bit apprehensive about tonight now!!!

maple - uh-oh!

mammy - yeah I know - I think there is a way of keeping our actual group private but not anything else....

beadit - tell DP he is a nutter! But very cute! lol. Don't forget to tell me how my feeding tip went!?

Well Olly-bolly is in bed again and has been since 8:30 - took 7 ounces tonight at 8 instead of the four he took last night so am going to skip the dreamfeed tonight and see how we go....wish me luck once again!

Kept looking at him today and thinking - "holy crap your still here! you're actually mine and your staying!" Followed by "oh my god you're gorgeous I can't believe that a.) I made you and b.) you came out of me 10 weeks ago!!!

Olly 10+4

Evening. Mine have had their 3rd lot of jabs today, so it definately is jab day! They were the worst ever as well. . They have 3 injections instead of 2 on the third lot. They screamed the place down, esp Isobel.
You have my sympathy bella. My DP can never come with me, so i'm always on my own too. So why Isobel is screaming inconsolably, i have to put her down to let HV give Jacob his. It would be so much less harrowing if someone else was there- for them and me.
They have slept and slept today. Can't see me getting to bed anytime soon. On the plus side i have no way of getting dd to school tomorrow, so i will get a lie in.

aw sassy poor you - and poor twins!

oh by the way mammy, cinnamon and everyone else in the fb group have just checked and only people in the group can see the posts that we make in the group page! xxx