July 2010:Our actions get dafter, all for the reward of giggles and laughter!

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new thread! thanks once again to spireal for the name!

Argh! Just lost post. In brief:

tsc things ok now? Good ideas re heating. Wghat do you use for sealing windows?

mlic bummer re tesco. Thanks for reminding me tho! Ex-collegues are horrid re no flowers etc

dh what is d doing when he wakes? Think swaddling is worth persevering with if you can. Sorry I keep banging on about it, he just sounds v much like F was and I so wish someone had told me about it as I'm sure we'd have got more sleep!

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Hi all

horrible night here again. The less said about, the better. She seems to suffer from teething and/or tummy aches.

I have a question for you all. What do you do if your babies want to sit up? M wants to sit up all the time, pulling herself up into sitting position as soon as we give her our hands, she even pushes herself up on her ellbows.

My doctor told me this is an absolute no no and she should be lying down at her age (nearly 19 weeks) either on her back or on her tummy. She shouldn't even be sitting in a bouncer or on our knees. The problem is, she hates it on her tummy and she gets hicups as soon as I lie her flat on her back. Arrrgh.

What do you all do?

MLIFF: I hate it when that happens. I always feel very angry but so helpless when big companies mess me around. I'm trying to avoid big companies as much as possible though of course that's not always possible. I really do feel your anger.

DH: Sorry you had a shite night. Nothing to suggest though, coz we're not doing any better.

TSC: I find it amazing how much difference it makes to have good insulation and / or to seal the windows properly. Hope you can save some money.

Ha, managed to bold words for the first time. and

Oh, and Cake forgot to say yesterday. M is always very wheezy and I was so worried about it, thinking she is allergic to the cat or something like that. But my doctor said, that all the little air pipes and everything is so tiny for babies that the smallest congestions sound horrible and more dramatic than it actually is. I have calmed down a lot since she told me.

OK, now 4 posts in a row should do. I'll get me coat.

yep Trudyla, you defo fit in here

Excellent customer services actually. I went down and long story short, she gave me a gift card for £40 in exchange for the ecoupons. So with the coupons I already had, I just got an £80odd shop for just under £37. Tesco is back in my good books.

I got 3 and three quarter hrs sleep in a row last night - 12.25 to 3.45 so I'm bright as a button today. Just feeding ds2 / waiting for dh then we're off to mam's for Sunday dinner with the grandpatents.

Oh and trudyla, that's utter shit IMO. ds2 prefers sitting on my knee - a physio actually told me they are better playing on their side developmentally as they learn to bring their hands together. Shouldn't sit up? Tosh.

Afternoon ladies

some shitty nights had by all by the looks of it

well appearance, basically a big fat lard ass springs to mind even with 3 zumba classes a week. Hair falling out all over the place but have loads so not worried. boobs are smaller than before I was pg and a bit like spaniels ears, also still have milk back to pre pregnancy weight but still 4st overweight and really need to sort it out. horrible dry skin, terrible cramp and an af that doesnt want to go away, omg i have depressed myself lmao

we were at glasgow city chambers yesterday for babies first xmas, rileigh is having a tree planted with her name in the local park, she was given a hamleys teddy bear, a silver xmas tree trinket, certificate and her pic took with the lord provast, met violet there iris is getting so big, her and rileigh were gabbing with each other so cute lol will upload the pics when i find the cable for the bloody camera if anyone fancies a look

got r her baby walker, she was more interested in the toys sat for 5 mins and moaned for her bottle, think thats £40 down the drain lol on a brighter note I have pretty much finished the xmas shopping

trudyla rileigh has reflux and I was advised to sit her up very early on so she is very capable of sitting up, to be honest she doesnt roll or anything like that because she prefers to be upright, tell your doc to bugger off lol

are you going out for dinner mlic or is someone making you dinner?

tsc glad your a bit better, I had a go at dp on friday just sick of being papped with the baby, as I said sometimes I need a break

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dythlan antidepressants did that to me too, also may be why I cant lose anything just now doc put me on them to prevent pnd, had it really bad with ds and was so scared I would get it again, so know were your coming from

kk could you not order from online? still waiting for my dvd but putting it down to the crap weather, hopefully tomorrow. Riliegh is the same as ellie when she comes into the bed but we use a sleeping bag so it restricts her legs a bit

sorry ladies massive bloody post, hey viksam and spireal how have you been? xx

cakes trust me I wish I could, he will not
do it. He doesnt even like being wrapped in the towel after his bath.
He's in a sleeping bag so its keeping my warmth.

Ive felt so down and depressed today, Ive had no sleep and Dylan is the easiest one to blame. Im not being a v nice mummy at all.

I live in a border county stac so its only half hour to the nearest northern town with a chemist!
Glad yourbgeeling happier tsc. Not nice to be fighting!i hate it.
Just walk away from him dh if you feel yourself getting angry. I think we all have those moments.
Had dp's granny's anniversary mass this morn so we were up with his family all day. The kids were having so much fun sliding down the uncles big long driveway on bags in the snow! the things that cost nothing keep them entertained for hours! the men were like bigger kids then trying to snowboard down and pelting each other with snowballs! just came home and ellie ate 3 cubes of food! wolfed it down and didnt even get it on her face and tgen gulped a full bottle! we have a little piglet on our hands!

No change here, shitty night again. G up about 5 times I think? Lost count. Looking forward to the day when I will be posting about stuff other than sleepless nights.

evening ladies, hope everyone is coping ok had a quick scan of posts as thread has moved on loads this weekend!!
mlic hope you have a lovely week away.
dh hope tomorrow is a better day! L isnt happy unless he is wrapped up in blanket and is even happier with a wooly hat on too! hes like his mummy wanting to be warm.
state of affairs here
hair falling out at an alarming rate
boobs back to a D as b4 baby
tummy flat but not how it was...yet
mind....going fucking nuts!!!!

we have been so busy yesterday we put the tree up then went to a friends to watch x factor and im a celeb but i got a migraine so had to come home, this morning we went to my mums work unit to re roof it as we had a leak we were there a few hours!! she gave us £100 we spent it on L when she said it was for us, we bought a balance bike thats a suzuki replica of his daddys bike, he wont be able to use it for a year but it will decorate his room until then!! L has been waking at 6 all week, luckily dh has been at the office due to weather so he has been letting me sleep! his poor teeth cause him agony but he will not take calpol he hates it and cries and cries when i try and make him take it!!

We left Dylan to cry for not even 3 mins and he got so worked up he was choking and hiccup/sobbing that you do when you've been crying so hard.

Feeding him back to sleep now, I fucking hate this so much.

think we're all going nuts memphis lol, the teething thing is a nightmare.

Aw dh he should settle down soon hun, do you express?

Bloody mac not connecting to router so am having withdrawal symptoms from whizzy strikeouts and suchlike.

trudyla thanks re wheezing but was that the same doc spouting nonsense about sitting up? //sceptical// :-) seriously, as others have said, tis fine for babies to sit up, otherwise why would there be bumbos and car seats?

I don't think I actually introduced myself (too used to bounding up to newcomers like a friendly labrador only for them to walk off into sunset without giving a bonio or pat on the head)

I've got 2 children: Felix 2 and Aurelia 4months. We live (with dh) in east herts.

if you're on facebook we have a private group you might like to join?

Right, off to watch xfactor results on catchup so will catch up properly with everything going on later.

mlic when you off? Tomo?

YES! Tomorrow! Woop woop
(not that I'm excited you undertand)

Xfactor boring me...

Oh dh. You're doing so well, try to remember that. Some babies do just need more reassurance than others - it will get better I promise.

Right, what I mean re swaddling is: is he struggling while you do it or even after it's all on and tight? Most struggle and cry until they've been totally swaddled for 30 seconds plus and then they usually relax.

Memphis: ambesol liquid is da boom ting. Liquid gold seriously! Aurelia stopped crying in seconds with it earlier.

Had a find earlier which some of you might find worth a try - I realised A likes her cheek being touched when she's struggling to switch off and sleep. Earlier I put a muslin across her cheek and eyes and she went to sleep immediately (I took it off 5 mins after).

Hi,
stac That sounds lovely what u did for Rileigh, having a tree planted is great. We are ok really, just struggling with the usual stuff that it sounds like we all are. Really can't decide wether to knock the dream feed on the head though. I absolutly HATE waking him up, it feels cruel. We change his nappy and put him in his sleeping bag and feed him and 9 nights out of 10 he stays asleep till 6-7am which is fab, clearly i dont want to upset things.
DH It does sound challenging but our friends just had a baby on the 1st and what they have been saying has made me realize just how far we have come from those really early days, we have all come such a long way and done really well, its worth remembering that.
Cake They do struggle to switch off, Devon only usually sleeps 3 times in the day for around half hour each time, i wish i could find a way of keeping him asleep for longer as i dont think he has a restfull sleep in that time.
Ambesol liquid is much better than the gel for adults, i didnt know they did it for babies, i will defo be getting me some of that and an amber necklace!

its the council that runs it viksam but it is a lovely gesture. You could always try a night without a dream feed and see how it goes.

cakes defo going for this liquid, Rileigh has been really grizzly with hers. Hows Aurelia's breathing?

trudyla forgot my manners, I have 2 kids ds is 11 and Rileigh is 5 months on tuesday, welcome to the gang lol

mlic cant remember if I have said but have a good holiday

pics of yesterday are on fb if anyone fancies a look

Just wrote another long post only for mumsnet to lose it for the second bloody time today. Anyway, can't be arsed to rewrite it now but suffice to say mlic I'd written a lovely mushy messge for you but now it's: happy hols, will miss you!

mlic have a lovely time
dh it does get better, your little boy's obviously just needing a bit more than some others.
trudyla I've got Lucy who's just turned 2 and Samson who's 19 weeks. Neither sleeps particularly well but they're both gorgeous
Someone's nicked my baby and swapped him for someone else. Usually he goes to sleep for the night quite happily at about 6pm, the last 3 nights he's refused to go to sleep til about 8pm or later. He cries, I feed him, he falls asleep on me and unlatches, I put him in bed and 5 mins later he's crying again. I'm not sure what he wants. Last night I let him cry while I did the Shred and had a shower because I just couldn't do anything for him. Not sure what's up with him though...

Morning all!

A's deffo getting better as she slept from her df thru til 4.30 then til 7.30 which is an improvement over the last week. Hopefully the 4 month regression will end soon.

Yes thanks stac A's breathing fine now tho still has a bit of a cold. Thinks it probably like trudyla's odd doc said - everything so small that it doesn't take much for it to get congested.

trudy berlin eh? What's it like there? Are all your family here? If so, I guess they must be really missing seeing Mathilde (such a pretty name).

Oh re fb - our group is private between just us (about 20 of us?) And is great for sharing pics, more detailed intros and private chat. If you do want to join it then you could set up a relatively private fb profile so no-one outside us can see anything about you. No pressure either way of course, just letting you know!
kk camomile is for sleep! So these days it takes a bit more than that to get sleep but I used to have it when I had a stressful job and struggled to switch off at night.

chulita is L still making cute new sentences? This stage amazes me cos you hear all sorts of things that you didn't even know they knew! F keeps saying to A 'don't bite, rella!' When she's teething on my finger!

tsc have your various infestations gone now? Did you have to do F too?

Anyone up to anything interesting today/this week? I've forgotten to make any plans for this week so have just texted about ten friends to try and make arrangements! So far, am meeting a friend thurs for sedate cup of tea with our youngest (while our oldest are in nursery) and then a boisterous afternoon on fri with a another friend with a toddler boy too.

Oh and lovely mummy drinks at winebar wed night.

Its not the feeding I mind, I like breastfeeding and I know its benefitting us both.
Its the fact that he wont go to sleep without it, he wont co-operate with any sleep training, only CC left and I feel hes too young for that.

He slept in his cot for about half an hour last night then woke and came in our bed where he woke at 1,4,5,6,7,8. Basically every 45 mins or so.
Im so tired I feel sick and he seems tired too, not the happy boy he should be after a nights sleep.

cakes he squirms while Im doing it and once he's wrapped. I think he may be too cold, but even when we had the heating on he still woke up. Hes such a light sleeper and hes never really needed much sleep.

My mum said its a sign of intelligence...
Well I better get something out of this.

a miracle has occured... ds went down for nap willingly, woke up by a poo, had change and then went straight back down willingly. Feeling a bit nervous now - it doesn't feel right

dh i really feel for you cos i know what it's like from ds - of course, he's v intelligent too

with ds we figured out it was largely a combo of wind pain and teething that was waking him but he was also a light sleeper and needed lots of reassurance - especially from me (sooo different to A altho have treated them exactly the same)

he got better as he got older, he actually very sleeps well now (usually 7.30 til 7.30 plus a 1.5+ hour nap) as long as he's not teething.

we never did cc, we just persevered with trying to wean him off being fed to sleep plus did lots of late night patting and shhing - and co-sleeping.

trust your instincts - there's no right or wrong way, just what's right for your own family.

do whatever you can to get sleep in the meantime. evenings, weekends etc

it's not forever...