June '05 mummies 4 - the one where the babies get bigger and we get smaller!

[katzguk]

one new thread just for you lynny!!

Evening ladies

Not much to report, nice weekend with the PIL visiting, irritating day today with ds taking lots of geeing up to get him to do anything at all, even go to the park.

Sorry you've been poorly today Lippy - enjoy your evening of soaps and choc. Hope you're feeling better tomorrow.

Sweetheart - lovely to 'see' you - hope these next two months go by quickly for you!

Jonah - dd has become very fussy feeding and in between feeds lately too. She has in particular decided she doesn't like my right boob. I am sooo close to adding a bottle but I am still trying to ride it out at the moment, hoping it's a supply issue that will work itself out if I stick with it.

Lynny - that did make me laugh.

Right off to get dinner in the oven, dh is late home from London again... life is very different now he's not working for himself again, ho hum, at least we have money coming in at the end of the month though.

I had the home water birth will nip over there now sweethearth

ahhh yes thought it was Scraggy. I spoke to her today as well. Thanks katz I'll e-mail her tomorrow.

Hope your well.

yep good thanks, glad to here its all going well. DD2 is a great baby we've had a hickup with sleeping but since i've started eating more it has got better! i think i was stressing too much about putting weight on and not thinking about feeding two! She slept her bast when i was at the conference in Italy where i was eating sooo much!

Glad the solids and sleep are going well Katz. Lummox, hope you see some improvement in that department now you've started.

Sweetheart, great to see you! December will be here very quickly . Is your DD enjoying the excitement of it all? I had a homebirth but not in water (although I did spend quite a bit of labour in the bath).

Lippy, sorry you are feeling so rough. It must have been a very long day, being ill and have two children to look after...you deserve a mountain of chocolate

Trib, the catch-up thread is a great idea, lovely to be able to get a quick summary of what people are up to.

Well, one of my close friends had a baby today, a little boy. She's already got a DS - it seems all my oldest pre-baby friends can only produce boys bizarrely (5 of us have had 8 boys between us). Lovely news but it did make me grateful that I'm past the early weird days of having a new baby.

Have had a nice day with the DSs, both on relatively good behaviour after a bad night last night (took ages to get them both off to sleep, DS2 was overtired and DS1 was under-tired )

Hope you all have a restful night.x

wow you all have be busy lol and ive caught up lol

evening mums its lovely to be back, just a quick update on hols, we had a lovely time william slept well, and fed well, he slept all nite from about 8pm till 5am which was brilliant for me and hubby.

Butlins isnt really the place for tiny babies, the clubs are too loud, but theres plenty of entertaintainments from 2 years upwards even kiddies rides.

We managed to find a pub which was quieter for william the food was lovely too
, so we could stay out till 9pm and give wills a bottle feed if he needed it.

Anyway it was just lovely been with hubby and not rushing around and willian seem to adapt to his surroundings well.

will do a proper catch up tommoro nite mums and june babies sleep well xxxxxxx

Just to let you all know my new name (I was berolina - felt it was time for a change). Thought it was a nice pun, & seeing as I'm often to be found doing translation (or teaching it) - oh well.
Welcome back eym! Get well soon Lippy.
Thanks for good wishes re excursion, trib. Am currently not sure whether to go mad with delight about going to England in the first time for 2 years or sink into deep despair at thought of all the stress. ds is an absolute delight though, despite being a pain to get to sleep atm.
Wow, solids on the Junie thread! How time flies. Am holding out for 6 months with ds.

FOR the first time IN 2 years!
being in Germany's clearly addled my English.

hi again
wow alot of chat since my long weekend over here.
thanks for all your comments and welcomes back. it's weird to hear how it's getting cold there. AS of course warming up here. yesterday was worried DS was too hot, i'm still used to swaddling for winter and now don't really know how many layers for summer!!!
i'm having terrible time trying to get bub to have naps inthe day, he is so alert and active, but it think still getting overtired and then grumppy.

RHM - of course, cat me missus and I will deliver the magic numbers - although you might even find them on this thread if you look back.
Lippy - hope you're feeling better sweetie - it's rough being ill with them to look after.
UKI - I've forgotten where you live.....

I'm feeling loads better today - was so down and tired yesterday couldn't even bring myself to post - just one of those 'bloody hell this is hard lonely work' days - lots of sleep last night so am a new woman. Also went out with old girlfriends last night - all have kids older than mine and it reminded me to enjoy the present - the problems ahead get really complicated
For those interested in poo watch there have been definite improvements - none for only a week this time - then 4 in one morning
Made appointments to look around potential schools for dd - my goodness but that is scary.

morning mums hugsss

its nice to see youall again,

Lynny hunny im so glad it wAs the result you wanted, how sad at loosing your phone. As for your HV she sounds dam ignorant to me, jusst ignore her, is there a clinic you can go to take jess?

Wow all this dimond talk never bothered me, ill stick with my lovely wedding ring.

Mrs F lovely to se you back, nice to see your settled in bournmouth with your family hugsss

just read your ctach up thread lol great work trib will post later.

Mrs W i hope your little boy has settled down now, distraction can be the best remedy sometimes.

Hubs nice of you to drop in hope all is well with hubs family.

Sorry to hear al our june babies arnt sleeping well im sure they will settle down the more they develop and grow, and sometimes i think its just comfort to be put to the beast, it was with william.

As for weaning william is now watching us eat, im sure i will wean him when i feel his bottle feeds arnt satisfying him enough, maybe all you mums who are thinking of it could just try some baby rice or equivalent just to see if your baby settes a bit more.

Ive had prem babies in my rooms, mum already weaning at 4 months and obviously i have to work with mum, and bless the little boy was fine, and he grew from strenghth to strenghth.

My self personally i weaned my boys at about 16 weeks maybe a bit later for james with james been very slow on the development with his aspergas.

Anyway i just thought this might help you mums as some of you know i am a Baby room Supersivor senoir nursery nurse and i have run and opened a number of baby rooms in the private sector.

right william just gone over for his morning nap peace lol only i have to start planning my next ann summers party for wed nite should be good fun this one.

hiya charley and coops will cach up later if i missed anyone hugsssss xxxxxxx

Morning all

Thanks for well wishes! Fever is gone and aches too, now just coughing, spluttering and blowing nose - a lot!! Poor dd2 still suffereing with a little cough and blocked up it hasn't disrupted her sleep though thank goodness.

Mrs FP - I can't believe what your MIL said to you about your weight How mean. Anyway, at least sha made up for her total rudeness with a compliment this time.

EYN - Welcome back, glad you had fun at Butlins.

Welcome - Found/Bero. I've often deliberated a name change, not quite got round to it yet!

Welshi - Sorry you felt down yesterday. We're all entitled to those days though. You had a great week last week, with all your cinema trips, I wonder if this was just a natural come down...?

Got to go and do something constructive

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lol Lynny i tell ya i could have made a kllling, just wasnt the done thing in the reds club lol and now we have the three way lmaooooo

Well just been reading through my party planner geting ready for next party, looking at the games we can play.

I forgot to say we bought a freestyler for william from skeggy yesterday, as all we seemed to do all weekend was carry him, so will have fun with that.
He loves to look around, very nosey like his daddy.

There was also a babydion shop, outfits were very expensive though £40 for a full suit i was thinking of my sis kath wedding next month, cloths were a bit to espensive will have to nip in town, theres a new baby shop just opened maybe a salior suit what do you think?

Lippy hiya hunny yes we had fun at butlins thanks

So when are we all meeting up? our first junies north and south meet somewhere in the middle we thought mandy where do you live?

Maybe xmas would be nice what do you think?

As we ruminate about a 'whole Junies' meet up, which I would love to do, I hasten to add, I know that Christmas would be a very bad time for me. Just too much going in general I think, places very busy, public transport goes to sh*t just because 'it's Christmas' etc etc. What do the rest think?

yer didnt think about that lippy,

hopefuly soon though

charley great that arlo is feeding better hope all is well in charleypos house hugs.

coops have a great holiday you sound so excited lol
bless have fun

be back later xxxx

evening ladies
rough days on sfx household. dd went from settled baby to feed every two hrs night and day really cranky baby at times- lua - going with your theory little pod baby alien.

on plus side went to see HV who was really reassuring and had some contructive suggestions. dd also growing well- on 18th week 63.5cm 14.10ibs.

i feel like a zombie and pretty much look like one.
sorry if i miss people but here goes

hi to the people who were here before me but that i dont know

trib- like concise thread great idea - lummox like format too, its going to make me face up to cakes eaten and wine drunk....maybe not such a good idea

EYM- nice to see you back, always great energy with you around. glad you had nice time.

lynny- good news on appointment hope all goes well. great you enjoying jess, its lovely

weshie- good marks on poo report always good to know. glad things got better.

katz- good going on solids, currently waiting for at least 20wk mark. far too much trouble at the moment.

lippy- glad you all on the mend.
whole junie meet good idea but think you right christmas is always insane traffic and public transport wise. bit later we hopefully will have older more settled babies. fingers crossed.

off to have dinner hope dd keep asleep.

Sfx, I suggest only reporting on the number of cakes and wine you would like to have consumed. Thinking about the real numbers is a game for ladies like Bridget who get to have a proper night's sleep whenever they are not out on the lash with Jude and Shazzer. (Incidentally, at a friend of mine's wedding recently the bride did a speech which ended with a toast to our patron saint Bridget, most amusing).

Mayhem has ensued in the tribpot household today. After low levels of sleep for me (let dh sleep in the spare room, mistake as then I could hear him snoring) I got ds to take his first nap of the day in his cot. This was not easy. However, 20 mins in he turned on to his back and woke himself up, dunno why. Went in, placated him. 5 mins later, the doorbell rang, the meter reader wanted to come in. Cue search for keys to open the meter cupboard for him. Couldn't find them, woke up dh to ask him for his, he decided to just blunder into our bedroom (where ds is asleep) to get them. Cue baby waking up, and hellish day of not getting him to take a proper sleep again. Sigh. Have instucted dh in no uncertain terms WHEN THE BABY IS ASLEEP DO NOT GO INTO THE BEDROOM. I despair of what will happen when I go back to work. Dh seems to view baby maintenance as:

• feed. If that does not work:
• sit in chair with baby crying on lap til someone else turns up to sort it out.

Arrrggghhhhhh

Welshie, glad the poo situation is under control. Good to know.

Lippy, good point about Xmas meet up. Shall we aim to set a date at the end of Jan or Feb? (Ludicrous I know but the chances of so many Junies finding a weekend in common are slim). I assume we are aiming for a weekend given some of us will have committed the apparent ultimate sin of returning to work by then - see ongoing discussion threads on this report about working mums for more details . Personally I am v confused, it says staying at home with mum is better than going to nursery, which I assume means staying at home with dad is worse than going to nursery (Noting above comments on 'sitting in the chair' this is possibly correct!)

Anyway, must dash for dinner, but let me know if we're aiming for a Saturday in early 2006 and then we can do a separate thread maybe to thrash a date out.

Evening mums hugsss

lol been to tout my wears again at local shop lmao

lol poor woman think she might have a party for me
now.

william has been unsetled tonite took a long time to settle into his sleep, he fights us think he was overtired with all the excitement of the weekend.
Even a bath with me and his rubber duckies didnt work hes fast asleep now though hopefully all nite.

Trib what a day youve had, i was watching loose women they wer on about mother staying at home, i know i want to, but its only because ubby has made that possible for me, im stll thinking of working weekends as well. I feel so sorry for mums who have no choice, as for nurserys not been good enough all i can say that i tryed exceptionally hard to work with mums, and i always tryed to follow mums routine as much as possible, and i did get lots of feed back that the babies i cared for where developing well, and where very settled, although its a shame to say this isnt always the case in the private sector.

wow that was deep for me, its just that there is excellent childcare out there you just have to find the right childcare for your family.

right re meet up north and south yes i think a thread would be a good idea trib.

right nite mums hope we all sleep well xxxxxxx

MOrning all! Ds asleep (on bed having cried after 20 mins in cot) and dh under orders not to go into the room.

EYM, hope you got a good night's sleep! I know the nursery my nephews go to is the same, try to follow mum's routine rather than impose a standard one on all the babies. And they seem alright to me! Unfortunately I have no choice about going back to work, but at least I should be able to work from home part time, and my boss is v flexible about hours and stuff, so I may be able to do some mum and baby stuff during the day (I can imagine things like baby swimming could be a bit tricky for dh) and make up the time in the evenings.

Question for mums of little girls. A friend of dh's has recently split from his wife, who is a psycho. Now when he has his dd at the weekends, she refuses to eat breakfast because it "will make her fat" - she is three years old! Could this just be a normal phase she's going through, or is more likely to be the mum not wanting to bother making breakfast for her? Really quite worried about things. Fortunately it seems as if our friend is getting more and more contact as the mum realises that leaving her husband meant she would have to do more of the babysitting herself, and he thinks it won't be long before he gets custody. Here's hoping.

Will start a thread for the grand North, South, East and West meet-up of Junies.

Ola

How is everyone? We're trundling along here. Dd2 is full of green stuff coughing a lot and rattling as she breathes. Despite this, she is in good spirits and getting her sleep at night, which is all an ill mother of an ill child can hope for right?!!

Trib - I love your posts, they are so witty On the "little girl" thing. I would be horrified if my dd1 said something like that when she turns 3!! My instincts tell me that she can only have picked that up from somewhere, possibly copying her mums habits???

I see the new debate on childcare and wotnot, it's such a hassle. When I see things like that on the news I generally just rush to MN to see if it's all kicked off yet

Welshie - If it's possible can you post the details of The Sleep Ladies or CAT them to me please? I have a friend who I think would benefit.

I wanted to ask someone something else, but I can't remember!!!

Did you start the thread Trib?

All done Lippy - one sparkling new thread for us to try and find one day in 2006 we can all manage

Thanks for the thoughts about the little girl. Maybe it's something her mum has reinforced subconsciously, then, rather than deliberately not feeding her.

Welshie's sleep lady is Andrea Grace, mobile is 0771 7324377, email andreagrace at blueyonder dot co dot uk - obviously the at is @ and the dots are .

So far we are going well on her programme, although I need to speak to her about ds' daytime sleeps before we start to 'withdraw' at night, so he puts himself to sleep.

hello all
another night of waking up every two hrs or so, funny how she sleeps fine from about 7.30, she goes down easy always just wake enough to settle herself, quite happy i might had. the fun starts at around 12.30.

she has also been miserable during the day in spite of regular feeds and naps, which now are the fairly reliable times.

inclined toward teething now, lots drool and biting down, but no redness i can see.

lets just wait and see. quite tired but not doing too badly.

except for the fact i can no longer write to make any sense