Dec 08 Ladies - Waiting for BabyLady & the usual grumpy tots with stinky bots

[DeidreBarlow]

Hope this is ok...

Bugger sorry clearly I had sent it. My SIL only has an older son and that do hand me downs. Their off casts are good enough for our kids but not their own (thankfully because many of them got terribly stained on my watch. The clothes aren't just a little unisex they are def overly feminine. Pubes it freaked me out quite substantially when I saw the photo. DH is going to ask her why he is dressed like that as its really that obvious.

Hello all,

veggie That is seriously odd of your SIL, she is trying to make some sort of statement although what the hell it could be who knows?!

beans That is really sweet of your DD1, I can understand why you got all soppy, I would have been the same.

sybs I'msorry to hear you are having trouble at DD's school, I hope whatever it is gets sorted soon.

Rubes sorry to hear you are still under the weather.

kiwi no advice about DD using you as dummy!

Well I got my AB's today, still feel crap and have a really dull ache in my lower back. Hopefully, I will feel the benefit by tomorrow. DS was a monster in the night, he woke and cried for about an hour and a half (I did keep popping in). Eventually gave in and put him in our bed where he shut right up, so clearly not in any pain. Finally started dozing off again when I heard DD thrashing about, only to discover she had wet the bed, and was still asleep just wondering around the bathroom. Cue quick linen change, me back in bed where I woke DS who then took about an hour to settle! I'm so tired, DH isn't home till 8pm and I don't think I have the energy to bath DC's so a quick wash, clean teeth and bed for them I think...

wandering doh!

I've done bathtime now and we're just biding time til bed. DD2 milked me to within an inch of my life. Have popped her down as she's exhausted. Trying it with no dummy. She is crying, but not very badly... AAGH!

DB - Sorry, hadn't refreshed. Poor you - you must be totally knackered. YAWN! Feel for you. I didn't last long without the dummy - hee hee! Another benefit of being at my parents' place is that mum is heartless and will stop me from going up to her, so I'll probably be able to do it.

All dummy users out there - I'm not massively averse to them at all, as they do work - it's just that I have a fear of never being able to give it up - I am so wet with Izzy and Sheepy (ie he comes every where with us and is bane of our lives), that I worry I will be the same with the dummy in a couple of years, so am keen to nip it in the bud while she is still so little. Does that make sense?

Waybuloo is odd. But better than that irritating woman on Mighty Mites, who I would like to strangle. Hope no one knows her on here!

beans I agreee Sarah-Jane is really annoying!

However, I am struggling to understand DD's obsession with Sponge Bob Square Pants. Its on quite a lot here, infact DS can actually say 'Sponge bob' and the says Square pants bit as 'waa waa'

Deids if it hasnt started improving in 24 hrs go back to the GP.

beans that women drives me mad DS1 loves MM but I can't stand her. what is wrong with her neck.

Oh & beans that is so sweet DD1 copying you.

fortunately ds became obsessed with muslins -it's been brilliant as although he looks ridiculous and walks around dragging his muslin along like it's Iggle Piggle's sail, he uses it to chew on [grim] when his teeth are sore, and he doesn't mind what colour they are so can wash them freely. I'm getting dd on to that too Very slowly ds is learning that it's not cool to carry a pink muslin therefore he shouldn't steal dd's off her (unless Vag's nephew ) sorry Vag but it's SO weird
Can you get to the bottom of it please?
I'm having a glass of wine as it's the first time in 3 days I've felt like one! Felling much better (still drugged) b ut not nearly as much. (Nothing like washing down a couple of Sudofed with a glass of cheerfulness! )
Have just bathed the two quite successfully. DS went upstairs on his own so I asked him when he set off if he was going for a bath and he came back down and grunted and pointed to dd! So I said "do you want dd to have a bath too" and he said "yeah" He was very good and didn't throw any ducks or whales or frogs at her and even passed me the sponge to clean her He is now fast asleep.

Beans, do you put dd2 to bed upstairs when you put dd1 to bed? I think my dd is a bit young yet to worry about if she will need routine to that extent, so won't really matter just now I suppose, as I think she would wake ds up. How old was she when you did that? I can't remember with ds as we had a one level flat so he was not that far away when he was in the cot, and we put him in it quite early, so now I'm not sure now when to properly put dd to bed? She has a bath and is downstairs with us usually in her bouncer or on a pillow on the couch until we go to bed but I think she would sleep better if she was away from the TV etc.

Well I thought he was fast asleep but I can hear him chatting to himself and he's playing with his Iggle Piggle.... hmmmm

Hi Rubes - I think I started putting DD2 in bed for the night at about 6 weeks as I was tired of having her with us downstairs. Plus she had started feeding less often and being tireder in the evenings. She now goes down at about 6-6.30, which is great! DD1 only went to sleep about 20 mins ago. But that's ok - she's been in bed since 7, so had time to myself. DH out tonight, so am hanging here. Had sausages, chips and peas for supper. Yumbo!

Aaaaaahhhhh I just lost a really long post dammit! I need drugs neuron & calpol then ill be back later

Jeez 6 weeks? Doesn't she wake dd1 or does she go straight down till her next feed? I don't know dd has been so unsettled the last couple of days with her blocked nose - she'd def wake ds so I'll see how she feels in a few days an maybe try that if and whne ds settles again. he's def asleep now and has been for a good half hour at least. he was in bed at 7 as per normal and hasn't cried at all (just talked to himself a bit then fell asleep) Must go and shut his door in a bit. The other problem is this damn house is so noisy!! Such creaky floors so if we go upstairs you hear every step quite loudly everywhere!! not ideal.

Hi Ladies
JB glad to hear you're still with us - but how awful for you with all the pukage Hope it passes soon - when did it stop last time?
ladyt glad to hear you're planning a few easier days. Take care of yourself. Your haircut pictures cracked me up
Sorry to hear about all the poorly mums and toddlers and babies. Hope the bugs all go soon.
P has been snotty for the past week but not too poorly in herself. She has been mega clingy though and keeps waking up crying in the night, which is quite wearing. There must be something in the air affecting all these LOs!
Sorry not to do more personals. Can't really keep on top of things at the mo so my MN time is being pushed to the bottom of the pile. I have a crappy situation at work at the moment too, which I would appreciate your thoughts on...
we have a new dress policy which states that we can't wear jewellery in a clinical setting (fair enough). There is one member of out team who wears BIG jewellery and has a bit of a bee in her bonnet about the new policy. She keeps saying she won't take hers off blah blah blah. She's lovely but likes to be a bit militant about things at times. Anyway. yesterday I went into a school with her and she had jewellery on (big necklace, millions of bangles). When we got back to the office our manager was there. Mrs Bling went home after about 15 mins, then I went about 15 mins after that. As I was leaving my manager followed me out and asked me whether Mrs Bling had removed her jewellery in school or not. I said no (ie the truth). I felt so awkward and felt like I was being sneaky and snitching on Mrs Bling, so I sent her a text saying basically manager asked me outright about your jewellery so I told her the truth. She was fuming (not with me - with the manager for beig sneaky rather than asking her directly). Then today was my day off. Mrs Bling rang me this morning to tell me she'd been taken aside by the manager and asked about her jewellery. Mrs Bling had told her she knew she asked me and told her I'd text her and told her. The manager apparently looked horrified that I had told Mrs Bling. The manager then didn't emerge for over an hour, then went home 'sick'. She emailed Mrs Bling to say she needed to speak to The Boss (manager's manager - are you still with me?!) and that also she needed to speak to me. Flippin' heck. So I was in tears last night and much of today because I feel I've caused this huge mess. I think the Manager shouldn't have put me in that situation where I had to choose between lying or dobbing in a colleague, but having done that, I guess I maybe ought not to have told Mrs Bling. It's just that she's a friend I wanted to 'own up' to her rather than let her discover I'd told the manager. So it's all a bit horrid and I don't know if I'm in the wrong. I'm upset but I know I'm too sensitive anyway. I'm in work tomorrow but the manager isn't, then we're both in on Friday and I'm already dreading it.
Anyway. Nuff of that. SO I'm a bit distracted and snowed under with life but am thinking of you all and catching up when I can.
xxx

bah I posted and it got lost!
rubes was just saying that DD is 6 weeks and doesn't sleep at 7 like DS, it is any time between 8:30 and 10. I spent ages trying to get DS to sleep at 7 and he wouldn't, this time I am going to wait til DD does it of her own accord, much less stress! My friends DD slept from 7 from really early and it made me jealous that she had an evening so I was a bit obsessed with it thinking it was what they should do if you see what I mean. But it caused me more trouble than it was worth. I think DS started going to sleep at 7 from about 3 months.

also trace I think you did the right thing warning your friend. And I think you should tell the manager that you think it was bad of her to put you in an awkward position if she tries to make you bad for telling her.

Summer - dd does sleep at that time but she is downstairs with us. She gets woken up though when the slightest little noise happens since she's been ill. Actually she sleeps most of the time between feeds really off and on. I'm just worried that if I put her upstairs at 7 when ds goes to bed she will be kept awake as he will hear her and if he hears her he will do his screechy screamy thing etc etc. She's been asleep for awhile now downstairs with us tonight, but I think after she gets over this cold (had to give her more calpol tonight) I'll start putting her upstairs at 7 when ds goes and hope for the best. he went to bed pretty easily at 7 from a young age. Fingers crossed. However at this age I don't think there's any harm not putting her "to bed" so to speak

Oh it just lost another post!!! How annoying.

Quick one from me' before the signal goes! Trace: in a nutshell you have done the right thing and both your manager and your colleague are wrong. If your manager can't deal with conflict without sneaking around or wibbling over deLing with your colleague she shouldn't be a manager. What a wuss. And your colleague should either follow the rules or speak to her manager direct about why she doesn't want to. Nether has any job bringing you into it. So please don't lose any sleep over the whole thing.

Trace - wise words from Effie - I would point out to them both what a difficult position you've been put into by them and that should put the ball back in their court. You shouldn't be worrying about it, but must say, I would be too - I know how you feel. x

Rubes and SL - I think I'm v lucky having a v sleepy baby, although she was pretty hellish and screamy for the first 6 weeks and I regretted having another baby so soon!! But now she's brill. She is literally exhausted after she's been awake for 1.5 hours. And I can just about push her til 6.30 most evenings if she's been awake since 4.30. But I know she's a strange case like that. DD1 was the same, so I am lucky loo on that front. Tired babies! I started putting her upstairs because I spent every evening worrying about waking her up when she was down here. Plus I felt I couldn't relax with her down here, for some reason!

I hope everyone's night was ok. Ours was pretty bloody good. Only up once at 2am to replace dummy, then DD2 slept til 6.50! And DD1 had a quick sob at 4, so I stroked her hair and she went back to sleep really quickly. All well! Hurrah!

Trace that is terribly unprofessional of your boss. Your colleague is wrong to wear the jewellery & I recognise the weird militant-Ness of it as I remember when we brought in a closed toe shoe policy at work trying to get my community nurses to wear them in summer was a nightmare. They took it as some encroachment on their human rights. Anyway, your manager should not have asked you that. Apart from being a terrible pressure to put on you like that, using her managerial position to make you tell, it also encourages back stabbing in a group of people who work best if they can trust each other. Long story short she has done a really bad thing here ,& she knows it. She clearly can't deal with this situation and is possibly going to make a mountain out of you texting MrsBling, to cover up the fact that she is losing control of her staff. As Effie said tell her exactly how it made you feel, putting you in that position. She could easily have just come straight out & asked MrsBling.

Pubes does DD sleep in with DS? We used to put DS2 down at 6.30 & then DS1 at 7 but they were in different rooms and also DS1 could sleep through a nuclear explosion. I'm like beans, I love my boys but I need that time in the evening to myself & if the mood takes me, to speak to DH. Having said that, I'm getting a little mush inside thinking of you on a couch with DD next to.you all.snuggled on a pillow, so tiny. Last night I was watching DS2 asleep in his cotbed, he looked so big, it made me a bit sad.

Spot how was last night? DS2 still woke & screamed but I can def see its getting less often & less intense. He's def not a candidate for controlled crying though, he had way too much will power.

Hello, quite a successful night here all round. DD was loads better and I am feeling a bit better too.
Well she was asleep downstairs in her bouncer and stayed that way from about 8pm until we went to bed at around 11 when I just transferred her upstairs to the moses basket and she never woke until 430am! I actually woke up first and was worried so stood over her to check she was breathing, which is when she woke!!! She then had a feed and went straight back to sleep until 8am. DS has a bit of a dry cough but didn't wake and cry at all until 7am.

No Vag, she's not with ds - she has her own room but is in our room with us in a moses basket at the moment.
I don't think I'm explaining myself very well. Although she does still go to sleep around 7pm ish I have been keeping her downstairs until we go to bed and usually doing her last feed when I transfer her upstairs - or downstairs, but right before we go to bed. Not sure why I haven't put her up in her moses basket at 7 when ds goes as well - I guess I've been worried that if she does wake up and cry (in our room) she may still wake ds up but having said that - his room is nowhere near ours, I would just have to make sure I shut his door (when ds goes to bed I always shut his door but he routinely opens it then finds the stairgate there and sometimes yells out for a minute or two then takes himself back to bed when he gets no response but obviously I have to go up and shut his door again)

Anyway, I'm waffling, but I think from tonight I will put them both in bed at 7pm upstairs and just hope she doesn't wake him if she gets unsettled or vice versa.....

Trace, I'm with Veg - very unprofessional - and I echo what Vag said.

Just read that back - did that make any sense?

No it makes perfect sense Pubes & I can see why you would be worried you want both of them to do what they need to do to get to sleep etc without interrupting each other. If her staying downstairs is working for you stick with it. I just have one question, when you say bouncer you don't mean those things you put older babies in upright to bounce up & down in do you. The ones that hang off door frames.

My phone seems to be allergic to MN if I write a big post MN suddenly becomes sluggish & I have to restart it. Maybe my MN is trying to tell me something.

LOL no Vag! - I do have one of those things too, but if she slept in that I'd have no worries with ds waking her in a moses basket!! She can't sit up yet!!
No I mean she has this and it goes quite flat in the sleep position