Dec 08 Ladies - Waiting for BabyLady & the usual grumpy tots with stinky bots

[DeidreBarlow]

Hope this is ok...

Rubes that makes sense. I'd put her in her room from 7 then and see how it goes. I put dd in her basket when she seems fully asleep in the evening which is sometime between 8 and 10. Don't think she's woken ds since the first few days when she was doing some rather loud prolonged crying!
Dd is very sleepy in the day. I am worried I need her to sleep less! Last night I think she wasn't properly asleep from 230 to 5 she was sort of chuntering
to herself and I wasn't really properly asleep because of this. And she must have slept 5-6hrs in the day. Oh well i guess she'll get the hang of day and night in the end.

I think do whatever works for you, Rubes. But if you want her to go upstairs, then give it a go!

SL - DD2 sleeps a lot too. She has an hour in the morning, 2-3hrs at lunchtime and another 45mins in the pm. So it's loads! And still sleeping pretty well at night. She seems to have got herself into quite a good routine, which is great.

Any tips on what to do with DDs in this crummy weather? DD1's cold has taken a bit of a downturn, so not that keen on going splashing in puddles! She's sitting on the sofa watching Beebies and eating a waffle covered in honey for her lunch. Terrible behaviour, but she's not 100% and I'm keen for her to eat something - anything!

OK am going to put her up in her moses basket at 7pm when ds goes to bed too. DS has gone off for a nap no protest - yipee!

DD pretty much snoozes all day in between feeds? I thought that was normal at 8 weeks-ish? I can't remember what ds was like and it was only 20 months ago

For eg she was up at 7 or was it 8 for a feed then sat awake only for about half an hour and snoozed again until she fed at around 11 and is asleep again now (on the couch) Perhaps I should keep her awake a bit more and she will def sleep through not likely!

Erm in this weather - not sure. I'm toying with the idea of Westfield when ds wakes up! Probably a dreadful idea, but I feel I need to practise these public appearances with ds
Oops she's awake now, and staring at the pillow....

Where's WG?

Beans I know you are a routine person. Did you do anything to get dd2 into a routine?
I will not worry about the sleepiness then rubes. Not much I can do about it I am in town and thought I would give her a feed while having a coffee and she won't wake up! No doubt she will scream when I go
to pick up ds and can't stop to feed her!

Speaking of TV Beans - I really have to start restricting DS - he's been watching quite a bit of CBeebies and Sky baby Channel recently while DD so young, and this morning I got him down from his highchair in the kitchen after breakfast, and he handed me the remote control, so I actually thought, Yeah, i'll watch a bit of "This Morning" and when I put it on, he screamed "No" at the top of his voice because it wasn't what he wanted!!!! to make matters worse, the TV is a 50 inch and about 6 foot from his head!! enough's enough I'd say

Yes, where is WG - and Mom?

I am much less of a routine person with 2nd DD, but I basically put her back to bed about 1.5-2 hours after she wakes up. So my day tends to go like this (a bit)

7am- up and feed
8.30am - back to sleep
9.30am - up and play
10.15am - feed
11-11.30am - back to sleep
2-2.30pm - up and feed
Sleep for around 40mins between 3.30 and 5 at some stage
5pm (latest) - awake and play
5.15pm - naked play on towel under gym
5.45pm - bath for both
6.10pm - feed
6.30pm - bed
10.30pm - formula feed

That's roughly it. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. But it's just a sort of vague one. Not writing that so anyone feels they have to do the same or anything, just thought you might be interested, SL! Ignore if not! My sister rang at start of that, so it's been sitting on my computer for half an hour - will probably cross with lots of people!

Good God Beans that's quite detailed! Good on you for doing that every day! Mine is like this....

Up at 7 (both) sometimes 6am feed dd then ds breakfast

feeds every 3-4 hours (try to stick to 6am,10am,2pm,6pm,10pm though sometimes way off those times)

In between it's whatever goes depending on what I'm doing that day but usually if at home ds has a nap around midday (usually sometime after 1130am) and it's always about 1.5 hours. dd snoozes most of the time or plays (must get kicky mat thing out)
ds has dinner around 530-6pm then both have a bath at 630pm-ish then milk for ds, bit of telly then upstairs, teeth and bed at 7pm for him (her too from tonight - well not the teeth bit as she has none )

Right he slept for 1.5 hours and is in quite a mood, so thisafternoon should be quite the treat

I'm not much of a routine person but I did the put them to bed 1.5 hours after they last woke & found DS2 kind of fell into a routine & got quite good & sleeping in.his cot during the day. I always found it quite bizarre that during the day he would nap but when he went down at 6.30 he knew that was night time & would only wake for feeds. Strange.

My mum is coming on Saturday with my step dad for 2.5 weeks so I've been trying to turn the playroom into their bedroom. Just put the vacuum robot in there & am shocked at how dirty the floor was. Those poor boys have been playing in such a dusty room.

Hiya, feeling v tired and self-pitying and hormonal today. I'm just not sleeping (even when T is) and getting myself in a flap about houses and babies and toddler behaviour.

Luckily the antibiotics seem to be doing something (when I can get them in him, it's quite the right ) as his temp has gone down and we're just left with coughing and teething. But bedtime sleep loads better, only up a couple of times in the night and much easier to settle.

i think I'm just missing what I think of as proper work (my two self-employed days from home aren't the same as having colleagues and an office and being able to leave home and not think about domestic drudgery). I even thought of applying for some jobs yesterday and had to be brought back to reality by a friend who said "imagine what they'd think if you walked into an interview looking like that" (I think she meant pregnant, rather than just a bit of a mess).

Oh cock, T woken up, just wanted to say that the week after next I could do Tues or Thurs chez Rubes, if either good for you, Beans?

Oh spot ya poor old bugger. You do have it pretty tough, you live in a new place so away from old friends, you have to work but without the fun bit, the social side & you look after T pretty much as a lone parent, with DO away so much. Oh & your pregnant. I'm surprised you remain so upbeat and full of humour (your posts always make me giggle). How is the work going for that women, & was there a boost to interest in the book anger that article in the paper.

spot Good to hear T was a little more settled last night, you need some rest you poor love.

rubes I was a routine freak with DD (boarder line GF freak actually). But when I had DS I found it really hard to get into a routine without making DD suffer if that makes any sense, so I sacked it off and he just goes with the flow now!

trace your manager was really out of line! I know its hard for you not to fret about friday, but she should have spoke to blinglady herself rather than being sneaky and putting you in an awkward position. Honestly, don't worry you told the truth to all parties concerned and there is nothing wrong in that.

Good news that my pee no longer makes me wince, but I still have a bizarre achy pain in my lower back - is that normal?

Deids its probably fine but might be worth just mentioning to the GP. There can always be the risk of the Kidneys getting involved when you are dealing with UTI's.

Well dh got another taste of meltdown man this afternoon. Not too bad though. He's done 4 poo's today def teeth. I think his main problem is because he can't communicate. if he could, instead of screaming he could tell us his teeth are sore or he's hungry etc etc, so I think he gets doubly angry as he can't explain himself, plus he's hurting.

Anyway, both in their respective beds at 7 and both are quiet
She went straight to sleep, but I can hear him messing around with his wardrobe doors so we shall see....

Deids - yeah I wasn't even much of a strict routine person with ds, although I did have one much the same as I do now with dd. I found if I was too strict, then I'd probably get myself too worked up if I was out and couldn't stick to it, so it was easier to go with the flow. Beans' your routine sounds like a happy medium which would be good if I could manage something similar - but I know I couldn't - just not that organised unfortunately

well as predicted not 5 mins after I posted that she started crying. Fortunately and strangely, although ds's door was open, he didn't start screaming when he heard me come upstairs I picked her up and brought her downstairs and massive burp followed by several smaller one's. This is an hour and a half after her feed - Summer or beans do your dc's get wind constantly between feeds? how long does it take you to burp them? - well Beans I guess you are over the worst of it. Anywaym she's back asleep so I'll wait a bit then take her up when I know the wind is def gone, and I'll shut ds's door at the same time

Where is everyone, I've been frazzling my brain on funda.nl (a real estate website here) and thought I would have loads to catch up on from you guys tonight. Hello, hello hello echo echo echo.... must be actually talking to your menfolk tonight.

Anyway night night ladies.

Oh heck, just lost a big post so just quickly: I'm here, Veggie! And it's nice to read and not talk too much

Yesterday was knackering. Only 4 hrs sleep, left at 6.50am to get lift into Oxford, train into London, trip to obs to sign doomy consent form and get bloods done for next week, then I walked the half hour back to my flat with my trapped nerve pinging about every 8 paces. Felt so grisly that did something I just don't do - I just dumped DD in her cot, lay on the bed and barely moved for 3 hrs...then got 2hr train up to Midlands. It was all too much but since Tues evening I have been lolling about whilst my Mum brings me various things I shouldn't be eating, like mini Magnums. DD is v happy as she loves it here.

Trace - Effie, Veg and others are so right. You shouldn't have been placed in that position and are the only one who comes out of it well, so try not to fret.

Dummies - am a big fan of the judiciously used dummy but you all knew that.

Spot - you know you have my full empathy on the work thing. I would like to discuss it properly sometime. But you know...it won't be forever like this so try to enjoy the now. In my better moments, I do. Hope that makes sense!

Rubes - hoping you are on the improve and feel well enough to enjoy Saturday.

Anyone watch the concluding part of that boys' school/project thing with Gareth Malone? What a hero. Obviously I will have two girls but I still care deeply that schools don't serve lads as well as they do girls.

Right, it's now Friday and not Thursday - time for sleep!

Think my routine thing sounded more organised than it is - she's not an automaton, so it doesn't always happen like that! But it's what I'm kind of aiming for. But this time, I'm not putting everything on hold for her like I did with DD1 and it has to be more flexible!

Anyway, hope all slept well. DD2 slept through til 6.30 again - hoping we're getting there with sleep now! And I just popped the dummy back in and she went back til 7.15. Marv. Feeling quite refreshed now! Although had a terrible nightmare about a serial killer of young girls and had to wake up properly so I didn't sink back into same dream. Horrid.

DH gone for a run as he has day off. We're off to Notts for a wedding this weekend, so am logging out til Monday! DH bestman and me on make up duty! EEK! No pressure....

Re burps, rubes - DD2 still does do them, but it's much easier for her now. She was proper windy nightmare, though. And she used to throw up about an hour after I'd put her down - everywhere - because I'd only got 4 burps out of her! And it clearly used to hurt her so much and she'd refuse to do it - I think I used to burp her for about half an hour or even an hour at a time!

Right, must go - lots to do. Have a smashing weekend.

xxxx

Beans you sound so busy, so to maintain any type of routine is brilliant!

well dd was unsettled on and off so ended up bringing her downstairs. She gets so much wind so long after feeds that it strings out to the next feed! Only in the evenings though! She also seems to feed a lot more in the evenings, but I'm thinking it's a good thing now as she has for several nights now had a late feed at around 11 and then eventually at about 12 or 1 slept until 6 ish so happy with that for now.

HI Lady - nothing wrong with that - do what you need to to get reast, and sounds like you needed it. Enjoy your Mums and the mini Magnums!

Ok, have got 2 friends and 2 toddlers coming over today and a hair appointment at mine, so must go!

Morning ladies,

Have just had a mammouth cleaning sessionso time for a rest and a coffee I think!

lady I don't blame you for just putting your feet up for a few hours! Great to hear you are gettinglots of rest at your mums too, its just what you need.

beans I hate having dreams like that, especially when you know its a dream but your alsmost trapped and can't wake up. Well, I have dreams like that

DS being a real cutie at the moment, keeps running up to me throwing his arms around my neck and giving me a big ol' hug. Oh and the little girl who he bit on Monday had him in a headlock at the school gates this morning trying to give him a big kiss on the lips. I suppose she hasn't been scared for life after her attack after all.

And I am fully better now I think, no dodgy back ache hooray.

Hello all. Still insanely busy with work and off again this weekend (which makes three weekends in a row, and a grand total of 26 days at a stretch of working... last time I had a day off = Sunday 4th September. Next one - Saturday 2nd October. aghhhhhh.)

In other news: DD still protesting at epic volume when put to bed. DH has to literally pin her to the cot for her to calm down (leaving her just doesn't work any more, alas)

And errr... well... I appear, somewhat unplanned and wrong timedly (is that a word?) to be clackered. Still v v early doors (4 weeks) and not a word on Facebook please, haven't told a soul but DH and you lovely folks

wow kiwi ! Congratulations! How are you and DH feeling about it? Maybe dd can pick up on some hormonal vibes? Wow!

Congratulations, Kiwi!

you must be so tired though kiwi with all your busy work stuff - that sounds insane to go that long without a day off. Poor you. Look after yourself!
Well I saw my manager today...she had a big chat with me basically said she wasn't cross with me but was disappointed (that ol' fave) because she thought I knew her well enough to know that she wouldn't have revealed her source to be me. She said she had been very upset by my lack of trust in her. She also said that she wasn't going to address the issue with Mrs Bling so my texting her has been the worst thing ever and it has had big ripples blah blah. Mrs Bling had a meeting with Matron yesterday but I don't know how that went. Mrs Bling exaggerrated things I had said and now I seem like an awful person Anyway I cried lots and my manager said she knows I had good intentions but said in future to think about consequences of my actions and to talk to her if I'm uncomfortable with something. Great. So not the best but she said that's the end of it. Not sure if it's the end for Mrs Bling though, which I now feel very responsible for [where's the guilt emoticon?] I'm just so cross and ashamed of myself for causing such a mess.
Also saw Occ Health today which was pretty draining. A whole hour of being asked questions by yet another new person, all about my history and current situation. And I cried ther too, then cried in the playground when chatting to 2 other mums. My eyes are tired and stinging from all the crying lately. Sorry to moan.
I'm concerned about our missing ladies. If you're lurking give us a wave so we know you're ok
I'll try to pop back on later in a better frame of mind.