FEB 2010 Teeth, nosh and smelly bums - it's all go, six months on!!

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Where did the last half a year go??!

Another sleepless night in the GF household. 3rd night in a row. I'm shattered.

DS goes down at 7-7.30pm then sleep until normally 12.30am but last night we started the dummy game at 10.30pm. Then awake from 1am till 2.30am with a feed at 1.30am in desperation to try to settle him down. Then wake for 30mn at 3.45am and again from 5am till 6.30am. The last awaking was dealt with by DH as I was utterly shattered. So I got up at 6.45 instead of 6am and went to work told my manager that I'll work 2 hours to get stuff up to date and then took my day off! I hopw that if I rest enough without DS (who's at nursery) I'll stop being a crying tired mummy

DS is very unsettled at night at the moment, I wonder if it is linked to teething or the fact that he was farting a lot last night.

Very me post but I need to let the steam goes out.

Chinook good luck for the journey

fizi my DS chocked with piece of beer mat he chewed at the pub. Need to read the link to see if it was gagging?

mamaloco sorry to hear about your DDs been unwell.

We're still on smooth ish purees here, I am starting to introduce a bit of lump by adding chopped ham. He always pull a funny face, gagg a bit but he swallows it so we're on the good road. I'm impressed by the DC who already eat with a spoon by themselves, if I give the spoon to DS he put it so deep in his mouth that he trows up.

chinook sorry about your mum, hope she gets better soon. How could I missed that post

Rant alert!!!

I took my day off today and DS went to nursery.

Around 2pm, the nursery called to say that DS had vomitted every where therefore I had to come to collect him. DH and I went wondering what happened to him as the last he vomitted there was when they feed him with sprouts.
Arriving at nursery I was told that he was in the walker, started to cough more and more and then vomitted a lot. But after he was much better! WTF of course he was better the flegme (sp) which were distrubing him were gone!!! So now I had to take the day off tomorrow as he can't go to nursery as he needs 48h clear of vomitting. it's not a virus he had flegme. They already called me at work on Tuesday to see if I would pick him up because he was wheezy, he has been wheezy since May you'll think they got use to it!

I'm so annoyed that I think of looking into a new nursery. Of course I understand that they have to be careful but still they look in every cases. I still have to pay them a fortune when he isn't there.

Should be they could look into every cases

Rant over

Poor you GF. My friend has a DD with similar wheezy/coughing type vomit episodes. Her nursery has agreed that if she appears only to vomit due to that then they will keep her. Maybe you could suggest the same. If the wheezing is the issue, you can request (in England anyway) that a careplan is drawn up between you so that everyone is clear what should happen. Here, my problem is that the childminder doesn't ring when DS1 is ill and that annoys me too!

Thanks Fizi for the lovely post and Mamaloco for the idea. Reading might be a good idea. I have a babasling and also find it strains my neck. Be especially careful when hoovering with DC in sling when you are 4 months pregnant - that was definitely a bad idea!!

Finally, also apologise for last night's crap spelling - maybe the swimming took more out of me than I realised!!

AbsB 25% is fine if it is her birth curve (even 0.2% is OK). Underwiehgt babies are those you keep falling down the charts, started at 50 or above and went down to 10% or below due to different reasons. If they follow one curve (or 2) they are on target! Mine doesn't need milk anymore since she has been weaned properly (at 25 weeks) but she still wakes up a lot during the night [tired emoticon].

Sorry to hear about your problems GF. Can't you get them to keep him. I had some problems with DD1's kindergarden with her eczema and allergies (rhinitis) which come and go. I had to get a doc everytime, and it really annoyed me (and cost me a lot) so I just said "she has eczema (or rhinitis) she is NOT (I did had to elevate my voice a bit ) contagious and she will stay at school today and come tomorrow". It worked even if the headmistress is OCB.

Bethylou I wish I could practice what I teach, and go to yoga classes. I wish I could go swimming too, but here it is very expensive or/and full of chlorine. I don't really like the spotty teenager look past 40! acnea and wrinkles
I found reading is not helping me since I have children (I used to be a book worm [geek emoticon]), there is always something too emotional, scary or hard for me to deal with in books even scientific or silly ones. I end up in tears, or thinking all night about the impending doom. I always found it really hard to put a book down when I am into one as well, not good for going to sleep early.
Owing the sofa, and put on some silly program on TV, with chocolate or wine is my relaxing at the moment . It involves DH not being here to spoil it re, he hates my programs but it does happen a lot. (him being away ). The best program are the "races around the world" kind. The french one is amazing! They have no money at all (1 euro per day for food) and have to rely exclusively on people generosity, so you actually "meet" some locals and see how fantastic they are. Or "stargate" [regeek emoticon] , which DH likes a lot now, and wants to share the sofa, not so relaxing! (we have a tiny sofa!)
God! If DH reads this, he will know it is me! I hope he is not snooping

DD1 is painting, I'd better check she is stilll on the paper and not trying to do a make over (her obscession), how can she be a tomboy and be so girly at the same time ?

Much better night last night, I still go up a few times but the resettling what much quicker except at 5am when we were up til 6am but with more sleep beforehand it was much easier to deal with.

bethy , mamaloco I am going to take an appointment with the nursery manager and explain to her that according to the contract, the vomiting is under sickness/ contagious disease and that his vomiting is none of those. DH will come with me as he'll have more weight than I.

DS this afternoon has been whinging a lot, I think teething is really under way and can't wait for at least one to come out.... So calpol it is to help him

afternoon

[sleepy emoticon]

so far no friday 13th expressing mishaps, just a broken down bus which meant it took over an hour to get to work

CC you have just explained why DS2 started the day with a projectile vomit over my shoulder - he obviously realised it was Friday 13th!! Luckily, I realised what was about to happen and got to the (easily-cleaned) laminate floor in time!! Luckily things improved after that, apart from some gagging on avocado during tea. I think I have to monitor my (over)reaction to gagging/choking as DS1 was quite unnerved by me shouting at DH for help and reomving DS2 from the chair quickly etc.. Don't want to concern him.

Had a massage for 20mins this evening which certainly helped with the relaxing, although I had to ask for extra padding under my shoulders to avoid squashing my post-feeding boobs!!

Off to pay DH some attention - we disagree on what is good to watch on tv too. He wants Lethal Weapon and I want Undercover Boss - both recorded. DS1 is off to Grandma's for the night tomorrow so more jobs to get done etc.. and a pleasant (and rare) evening out to follow. Have a lovely weekend everyone.

Hi all,

Yesterday managed to get milk all the way through the tube (hence the expressing mishap reference) and then spilt a bottle .

LO was weighed today and came in at 12lbs 5oz (5.6kg) so she's doing well (a whole pound in 4 weeks). MIL keeps making reference to how she has rolls of fat now, which makes me feel like I wasn't feeding her properly before. Silly I know (though she always says how she must be missing me when I'm at work). Slowly getting used to the fact that she's going to prefer DH over me soon. Added incentive to keep on bf though, even if I need motivation to express at work sometimes.

We seem to be going well, just wish there was alternatives to either 40 hour working weeks or no hours. I mean really, I think everyone should have 30 hour weeks.

LO can now rotate her self around effectively whilst on her front. It's cute seeing her start to want something and really set out to get it. Don't think we've tried any foods this week, but we've just moved apartments and doing the bare minimum while we get ourselves straight again.

Hope everyone has a chilled weekend

1st controlled crying happened last night. DS was having a tantrum at 3.30am because after falling asleep in my arms I put him back down to bed. After lots of shushing, rocking, padding he was still crying so DH intervened, and put him down. He cried for 20mn (which seem soo long then lights out! I was crying too in bed in DH arms. DS still woke up 1 hour later but after giving him some calpol, he fell asleep so much quicker. I'm not going to do it every night as it is against what I believe but hopefully this may have help us...

Now you can throw stones at me!

This morning I used full fat milk in his ready brek and I'm now waiting to see how he will react to it; I gave him some fromage frais during the week and he was posseting (sp) curled milk after that. I wonder if it is a lactose intolerance but as he was FF since birth I would have thought that he was already exposed to lactose or it's just the process of making yogurt and fromage frais which don't agree with him. Let's wait and see

Just catching up from my parents, and too much to say on individual posts so apologies.

I have started giving finger foods too - bits of potato, crusts of bread etc - and I keep a close eye. Rice cakes were useless with DD1 so I'm not brave enough to try them. DD2 seems to be fine, but she doesn't have teeth yet so can't bite off chunks as the toothy ones can.

She is also at the small end of the scale - on the 9th percentile!

Someone mentioned vomiting because of coughing - my DD1 did this from a young age and was diagnosed with asthma about a year ago and now the problem has disappeared thanks to a good asthma management plan. Her nursery was fine about it when I explained it, and had the common sense to work out when a vomit warrants a call to me! It's worth putting it in writing for your DC's file - something along the lines of "onyl sonsider it contagious if two temp readings taken half an hour apart are raised".

I'm rubbish at relaxing too. TV or sleep for me!

I was still under a physio for a while after I had DD2 for the SPD, and she said that the hormones have to leave your system completely and that this can take up to nine months. So it will gradually get better, and i can definitely do more now and just get the odd twinge to remind me that it's still not right.

DD2 now sleeps on her front. We had a week of her turning over, then crying and we had to keep going in and turning her over, but she worked it out after a week and now is fine. Hsng in there!

Chinook, hope your mum is OK. And hope those with night wakings are bearing up. If there's a dummy issue, it's worth tackling it asp in my opinion. My DD1 was dummy-obsessed, and started waking up for it not long after she had started sleeping through. We bit the bullet and put her to bed without it. It wasn't pleasant the first night, but by the third night she was fine going to sleep without it and it meant that she could then settle without it if she woke up during the night. But it was a hard decision to make and a difficult thing to do.

The hardest thing about being a mum is definitely the constant wondering about whether you are doing the right thing :(

watercress I have a dummy issue, DS do not need it to fall asleep in the evening but I can't see how I'll settle him back during the night without it. To be fair at the moment, with or without he doesn't settle down.

How many bottles does your DC take once weaned?

Our feeding routine is:

• 4am 6 oz
• 8.30am 30g of ready brek mix with full fat milk or 4 oz of formula. If mix with normal milk, no bottle
• 12pm 120g veg puree with carbohydrate. Lucky if he takes 2oz
• 4pm he may take 2 to 3 oz
• 6.30pm 120g veg puree + 120g fruit jar
• 7pm full bottle 6oz

I guess he gets what he needs but I'm worry that he doesn't get enough formula now!

Hi All,

Been away at the in-laws.

DS has a cold. Really runny nose and hates having it wiped/hoovered but otherwise in good spirits. Oh, big vom this morning after his iron + expressed milk cocktail all over himself/clean duvet cover.

GF Don't worry. I did it one night last week when DH was out and I was trying to cook myself something to eat and DS wouldn't settle. I went in every 5 mins for half an hour without picking him up but he got more and more furious and loud. I couldn't do it longer than half an hour so picked him up and fed him to sleep.

CC You are a great mum and I can imagine how hard it is to leave her for 40 hours a week. You're so committed to doing everything you can for her though and there's no reason for her to prefer one parent over the other. Such a shame about the milk. I did that once and I cried.

Bethylou Hope you had a good evening out. The christening sounds hilarious.

Chinook So sorry to hear about your mum. How is she now?

Rainbow Good luck at work. How did you get on on your first day?

My own mum is doing my nut about when I go back. It's not going to be for a year and a half at least but she keeps referring to it every time we see her (once a week). I asked her why she did and she said because she can't wait to get her hands on him - ie she'd rather she cared for him than me. Its all very weird and leaves me feeling quite unsettled. I guess I just nod and smile and then do exactly what I am planning to do which is work 2 days a week and DH look after him on those days as he works from home.

Oh and she's started on about us getting a bigger place with a granny flat in a few years time.

bear your mum scares me!!!!
GF as for bottles, dd2 has 7-8 oz at about 7.30 am, 7 oz at about 2.30 pm and 8 oz at 6ish pm.

Had to rush off and do stuff... Meant to add, dd2 has a few spoonfuls of cereal for breakfast, lunch at 11ish, and dinner at 5. I think she possibly has too much milk still because I read somewhere they need about a pint a day once weaned. GF I think my LO does eat less at mealtimes than yours (probably a total of 120gr at lunchtime and then again at teatime).

... and she drinks water from a cup with her meals...

Hope you all had a lovely weekend

LO managed to push herself up on her arms and knees today and looked incredibly happy for a moment, then realised there was more to crawling than being on all fours and got very cross It's hard not to laugh too much at her frustration!

BG thanks for that. DS also drinks water with his 3 meals from a free flow sippy cup (what a mess it is but he loves the responsibility to drink by himself)

Of to work and nursery. DH will take an appointment with the manager for us to see her at 4... Fingers crossed it will get us somewhere.

BC lol at your mum comment about the house

DD2 (29 weeks)
6 am 5oz (sometime less)
8 am cereals/fruits +100g water
11.30 meal 200 g water sometime 2/3 oz
15h (14h till 16h) bottle 6 oz but almost never finishes it.
17h30 meal 150g no meat but complete veg/starch/may be yogurt or pulses +water
20h bottle 5 oz but rarely finishes it.
plenty of water in between it is hot here still in a bottle (she takes much more like that) and she has no desire to help herself, by that age DD1 has already been holding her bottle herself for a few months.

I think she gets around 15 oz/ day which is not enough should be around 21. I try to give her yogurt at meal time instead. I have tried to give her the milk before the meals but she is not interested and gets all worked up.
I think if they have dairy too, it is OK to have a little less milk, from what I remember with DD1. It might have changed since .

GF good luck with the nursery
Bear granny flat! my mum clearly indicated that she had done her "rearing children part" and she won't have them... Can someone be in the middle!

DD2 sleeping on her belly now quite happily (down to 1 wake up or 2 for dummy) Watercress I might try the cold turkey on dummy too, but DH is absolutely against thumb sucking, which she seems to compensate with. Not sure what to do

DD2 is getting frightingly good at commando crawling, the real crawling is still very slow but there, and she seems to want to walk too Everytime we hold her hands she stands up and come to us beaming. My back is already hurting just thinking about the months to come. She HAS to touch EVERYTHING and be on the move all the time. The nappy changing is getting a battle, and all the furniture, things, floors in the house are getting thouroughly looked at, touch and then licked if I am not quick enough [boak]
She has also figured that if she put her hands on some chlothes/jigsaw/cushion and moved her legs she can get really quickly everywhere half sliding and half crawling on the wooden floors and ceramic tiles (no carpets in the houses here). Oh! And of course she is not interested in baby toys only her sister's and adults games seems OK especially if there is some kind of choking hazard

All the babies in my DH familly are quite lazy and so was my DB, why do the DDs have to take from me and my younger cousin!
My mum thinks it is funny and pay back for all the things I have made her endured

Have a nice day. Hope the sleep is getting better for you all. Is there a 6 months sleep regression and a 9 months as well? (does it ever end?)

I think I've decided to assume she'll sleep through at 2 years, any earlier will be a bonus

I don't know where last night cam from, but we went from normally doing feeds at 6, 10 and 2 (and then every 2 hours), to 6, 8 wake at 9, 10, wake at 11, half feed at 12, rest at 1, then the normal two hours from 3. Who knows where that came from.

LO has been sleeping on her front for a good few weeks now, and no longer wakes in a wild panic when she finds out.

I'm also in two minds about the dummy, but there have been signs of thumb sucking lately so that's strengthen my resolve and so I try not to feel guilty about it. She only has it going to sleep, and to be fair I think she's using her thumb as something for teething.

I am convinced there is a 6 months sleep regression or is it because DS didn't have a months one so he's doing it now?

I didn't have the choice for the dummy it was it or my sanity! After spending the first 3 nights in hospital near his cot to enable him to suck my little finger, my decision was made. He tries to suck his thumb but he doesn't settle with it, to be fair he uses the dummy not a lot during the day but do at night.

He can now sit unhelp but he is not bothered as from seated he dive to land on his belly and tries crawling! No sleeping on his belly yet, but he sleep on his right side (like me)

mamaloco I love the idea of the 'pay back' baby My dd2 is incredibly laid back, so much that you have to remind yourself she's there because she's happy to sit and watch everyone. Apparently I was a very happy smiley little thing and very easy. Mind you, my mum had her first two 10 1/2 months apart, so just having one baby to look after must have been a treat.
As for dd1.... I have no idea where we got her from and dh and I blame each other's family... . He's got no family left so I can't ask them what he was like as a boy. It may be revealing

Goodness, work does take up a lot of time. I haven't been able to do much mumsnetting the past few days I was rather worried about being back at work and DD no longer having me to feed her to sleep. But as it turns out she's happy with DH feeding her in a bottle though she doesn't take much... in fact only 1oz per feed typically. Only been 2 days so far where DH has done nap time but today at least she slept 3 hours for her midday nap. Unfortunately she's taken to not drinking bottle milk during the day - only 50 mls today! - and makes up for it in the evening (and night). She seems happy during the day and gives me a huge smile when she sees me in the evening, and we hang out for about 30 mins before it's time for her bath and evening feed.

My boobs get rock hard at about 4pm, guess it's just been a couple of days so I hope production gets sorted soon. I'd still like to feed her in the afternoons at weekends though, I wonder if the boobs can take that into consideration....

I was a demanding (but generally happy provided I got my way) baby... DH was very active and always ran around... DD seems to have both these characteristics :) we are going to be in for some active times I can tell

Have decided I'm not going to look at the clock when DD wakes up to feed at night, makes it much easier and me less tired for some reason. Last night DD must have woken up at least 4 or 5 times between 9pm and 6am. She'll only feed lying down from 1 side so at least I only had to get out of bed twice.

My anxiety about DH looking after DD is driving DH up the wall, as I've been questioning everything he does... (especially since DD isn't getting much milk during the day and no meat/protein either, how much meat should a 6.5 month old be taking?) so we had a good row this evening about it after the past 2 days of stewing and that seems to have cleared the air. He's going to try giving her fish and tofu, and I'll stop checking everything he does....I'm quite sure I'll regress though

Went for yoga for the first time in months on Sunday morning. Still a bit of SPD, can't wait for it to go so I can start trying to get into a lotus position again without feeling as if I might dislocate my hips joint. We took DD to dim sum for lunch on Sunday as well, sat her right at the table and let her try some of the dishes, she loved the beansprouts and the cheongfun - a type of rice flour canneloni. Chewing through a nectarine also occupied most of her time which meant we could stay and eat for nearly 2 hours. Looking forward to repeating that again sometime.

Really enjoyed reading through all the updates from everyone... please keep them coming!

hey all!

nothing much happening here? started DS on some puree last week (24wks) seems to be going ok?

DD has started having 'accidents' again which is annoying, given that we thought we'd sorted it again a couple of weeks ago - it really is just when she's in the middle of something she's really enjoying, but we need to start carting her off to the loo every hour again? DH lost his temper tonight and threatened to put one of DS's nappies on her? don't know whether that'll have any effect??!?!??!

moved DS into his own room last night? seemed to go ok - he only woke once and slept til 6, so much better than the last ten days or so, but who knows whether it has anything to do with being in his own room!? (still have to remind ourselves how much worse DD was with sleeping - tolerance much lower this time i think - all those with sleeping issues have my sympathy!!) CC DD will be 4 in November, and it's really only the last 8 months or so that we've had more than a couple of nights in a row without her waking (sorry!!)

I've started my period, have a stinking cold and have boils all around my groin - sorry TMI? feeling bit sorry for myself? rundown??? maybe, but i can't think why that would be?!?!?!

DH has been offered a short term contract? this means we're both going to be fulltime for 8 weeks? don't want to give up my contract in case his doesn't extend? so both DD (who'll be fine) and DS (who is only 24 wks) will both be full time in nursery from next monday? he's having some settling in sessions this week the NN in charge of his room is lovely, and she looked after DD too, but i just don't feel ready to leave DS with someone else 8-6 5 days a week?. Needs must though, so will just have to lump it and make as much as can of the rest of time? of course, f/t nursery for both of them is going to cost £1250 a month - pretty much my wage at the mo, but if DH's contract doesn't extend, then we're just relying on my wage again as my contract has extended til christmas?

sorry, me me me but am feeling crap about stuff and REALLY wish we'd never bloody emigrated? things would be SO much easier!!! am off to bed..xx