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stripeywoollenhat · 02/08/2010 22:21

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treedelivery · 05/09/2010 12:22

She didn't sleep SadAngry I let her in her cot whle I showered and she screamed and screamed. I have managed a quick hoover upstairs and get dressed. Not a proper one, which it really needs. Mil coming to sleep on Wed night, so I' will have to blitz it on Tuesday.

I think on the whole community would be harder. The days would be ok, they are 8-6, but they do one in 5 oncall. One time first on - so really quite likey to be up and out somewhere, be that all night for a birth or 2 hours on delivery suite to help, and next tme 2nd on - so probably only called to home births. They do weekends one in 3 I think, so that would be ok-ish too.

I couldn't really do that oncall though, I wouldn't have childcare from 6 am onwards, and the pil's aren't as flexible as that. To be oncall too.

More importantly I am semi knackered a lot of the time. Aren't we all!! Say tonight I was oncall - and got called out. Well, if H hadn't gone to sleep until 1am, and I got called at 2am to do a delivery until my end of oncall at 8am, and then I had to go do my clinics untill noon, until the day midwife at the got finished up at the birth, and could relieve me for the afternoon clinic or visits - well by then I would be spluttering with tiredness! I'd be useless. And if I stayed with the home birth I'd be properly useless. I haven't the stamina anymore.

I really envy people who have a job that is a break. That must be lovely, to do something for yourself, to be able to start and complete a task, get a warm drink in one go etc etc. My job is just like being at home really, constant interuptions and changing moods and changing workloads. It's very like parenting, it's all about giving. I'm afraid that I do see it as being a drain on me - but I choose let that happen and that makes me a caring person to have looking after you. I hope! GrinHmm

Hope you had a lovely bath DOG. I could barely fit in mine at this point!

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 05/09/2010 12:34

beautiful crib dog Grin now wheres that baby Wink

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 05/09/2010 12:35

now do i get dd2 -

happyland rocket

or

happyland caravan and bus??

thoughts please

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treedelivery · 05/09/2010 13:41

Oh you do not DOG. I was just thinking downstairs how slim and young you look. Manly because my trousers were cutting me in half GrinBlush

Not patronising at all - it's probably only me who feels like this about work, and I don't know how much of it is the job, and how much of it is me - really needing to be at home. I really do want to be at home.

i think com mw's do tend to have older dc's, or very exact working requirements which is often more stress than it's worth. It;s horrible when you have to just leave a case or a shift nad drop your work mates in it. Yet if you have to get your dc's, what can you do?

I'd say rocket - everytime Tink.

Would much rather mil didn't have to stay, as I'm sure would she. She is very very good to do this for us. I just couldn't work otherwise. I just hate the feeling of putting people out and being such a drain, she's 75 ffs! Poor woman.

teaandcakeplease · 05/09/2010 14:52

Tree I think I've said this before but are you sure being a Health Visitor wouldn't tempt you. You need to be either a qualified nurse or midwife to be one anyway. You might enjoy the nicer hours and chatting with mummies and weighing scrumptious newborns and advising on sleep, colic etc. You'd be great.

moosemama · 05/09/2010 19:22

Evening

Just read through, but nothing has gone in. Will have to reread later.

I did notice Tink's question about the Happyland stuff. Dd has the boys old Happyland Rocket and she loves it - particularly the dog! We got ours before they added the moonbuggy and crater, but she loves anything with wheels at the moment, so I think the buggy would be a huge hit with her as well.

Another disastrous day with ds1 here. Tumbledrier turned up at 8.30 am. We were still asleep and dh had to leap out of bed and check it in his boxers and dressing gown! Blush Grin Thought we were going to have to stay in all day and wait for them, so decided that as we had the opportunity we would go and visit my sister. Unfortunately, when we got thereit was my nephew's weekend with his Dad and ds1 was devastated. He sobbed, wailed and demanded to be taken home immediately. He just couldn't cope with the visit not being as he expected it to be. He calmed eventually when I suggested he played on his nintendo ds and we let him have longer than his usual time to appease him. Fortunately he came round in the end.

Got home and had another meltdown because he didn't want a bath. He went and hid. We couldn't find him anywhere and I was starting to panic that he'd left the house. Eventually I stood on the landing and threatened to take his ds away and he emerged from under his brother's bed. Daft thing is, he actually loves having a bath, he just doesn't like the idea and we had a whole repeat performance when we tried to get him out! Aaaargh!

Anyway, they are off to bed now and I have a cake and some chocolate peanuts and raisins. I have to print out his feelings diary for school, but other than that I intend to veg this evening. It has been a looong weekend.

Might be back later if I can get my brain in gear enough to read today's posts.

teaandcakeplease · 05/09/2010 20:01

Numb thumb after aqua vacking lounge just now. But carpet looks a lot better. Don't be mistaken though I haven't dusted in a VERY long time. So my household chores are rather basic most of the time. I am no domestic Goddess. However as the dining table is in the lounge the carpet gets rather gross. Beyond what even I can stand Grin

Read your post Moose Sad It must be so emotionally draining for you. I'm not sure how I'd cope but suspect it wouldn't be well, even tonight I was sounding like a fish wife with the DCs close to bedtime. So I have a lot of awe for you and think you're an amazing mum. The poor wee lad must find it so hard but at least he has a lovely mummy to help him through it all.

hackneyzoo · 05/09/2010 20:02

Am totally exhausted and have read through and retained, well, bugger all really.

Moose glad your dryer turned up, ours was meant to come on Thursday and didn't. luckily we rang them to check and there had been an error witht the computer...blah blah blah, so should get it this week. Hope DS1's first full week back goes smoothly for him.

Lenni, your posts regarding SN stuff are so eloquent and wise...I think I learn quite a lot from your posts as my thoughts and posts (and life ion generally) tend to be vaguely chaotic.

Any twinges Dog? How about a spot of accupuncture or clary sage?

Another crap night here, DD coughing again, but is much better today (she did crash out on the sofa though aND managed to wee on it...so will wash the covers AGAIN!). Both ad naps tis arvo and so are sitting next to me on the sofa watching...A Muppet Christmas carol, very seasonal.

Am selling my wares on MN, have had a sling clearout as I seem to have accidently bought an ergo Blush but for a bargain price of £65 and its new. So am getting rid of everything apart from the kari me.

Tea, how is your nephew doing today? Will stick shoes in post for you tomorrow or tuesday.

Not looking forward to first full week back at work, have too much to do. DS now attacking me with his stinky bunny so my cue to get off mn...

teaandcakeplease · 05/09/2010 20:42

Nephew was doing better today, although slightly jaundiced still. Seems to be digesting his food a lot better. SIL got to hold him today for an hour.

They have chosen a name: Noah. Love it! :-)

moosemama · 05/09/2010 21:31

I love the name Noah. Really pleased to hear he is doing better. Will keep sending the positive vibes. Smile

Still haven't reread the thread, have been creating a feelings diary for ds1 to do with his teachers at the end of every day - so much for an evening of vegging out. Hmm

Have the new tumble drier going and its so much quieter and produces far less humidity, am very pleased. That's really sad isn't it. Blush

hackneyzoo · 05/09/2010 21:39

Lovely name Tea. Latest pic of him on FB is very cute, made me all tearful it did!

teaandcakeplease · 05/09/2010 21:50

Most of the photos my brother has sent me have made me cry and I can't even blame it on pregnancy hormones Shock Smile

Think I better go to bed in a mo. DD's first day of pre school since Summer break tomorrow. Will be a shock to the system to be showered and dressed that early. Not sure how she'll be after 6 weeks off.

treedelivery · 05/09/2010 22:22

Hi all. Off to bed really, just wanted to check in. Not been the best end to evening but trying to do the whole in with hate out with love thing. Or is it the other way around? Hmm
Won't rant, will try take my own advice and know that you can't change how people think. you can only do your best and accept the planet as it comes. Am fuming though.

Shift in the morning. I think I am argansed for the pil arriving at 7.15, I hope so.

Tea - Noah sure looks better. He's get there, time and patience as my nan says.

Glad the dryer arrived Moose, but sorry the day slipped away from you. Is ds gluten free again?

Agree Lenni has tonnes of knowledge and very clear precise [sp?] mind.

I on the other hand have a bit of a period again. Didn't I just get one when Moose did? Pah!

Tea - bet dd is fine. I think it's after a few weeks in hits them, the routine of it. Was with mine anyway. The novelty was great, once that wore off, 7.15am was 7.15am, whichever way you looked at it. poor things.

moosemama · 05/09/2010 22:43

Tree, sorry you are having a bad evening. Not sure what its all about, but 'don't let the you know what's grind you down' m'lovely. Whatever it is - I am sure you are right and they are wrong. (hug)

Ds is low rather than no gluten at the moment. Having the occasional glutened snack, but only gluten free bread, pasta and pizza etc. His digestive system is terrible though, so something's up. He has his first Paediatric Dietician's appointment this Friday and we are keeping a food diary, but can't seem to see a pattern so far. Am dreading the thought that it may be dairy that's causing all the problems. The boy lives for dairy as much as he does for wheat and it would be so hard for us to remove it from his diet, as there is absoutely no way he will ever agree to eat meat. Not sure if a low/no gluten, vegan diet would be doable for a child, even if you could actually get him to eat the food. Hmm

As for periods, I am still on mine (always have it for 7 days Hmm). Do you think perhaps yours has been affected by all the stress last week and then your illness this week?

treedelivery · 05/09/2010 22:50

Hmm, maybe. It threatened to restart on the hospital ward last Friday when I was sat wondering if H would ever wake up Hmm I had that watery stuff that makes you think you are sat in a red puddle and turns out to be nothing. TMI big style Grin

I never really credit stress as having any impact or effect on me, I just think I'm being daft and need to crack on and cope. But yes, I hadn't thought of that. Do you think it would be that bad though? I mean, it was horrible but it was just circumstances and needed dealing with. She is ok and that;s the be all and end all isn't it.

I wonder f you shoudl sned his wee off to Paul Shattock and see what he makes of it? Or go gluten free, wasn't he better then? Or am I mis-remembering it?

moosemama · 05/09/2010 23:04

Two thoughts. Firstly, its all ovulation related and its fertile cervical fluid OR secondly, you could be pregnant! Shock Is there any possiblity it could be the latter?

Stress can't affect your period after you've ovulated, as your luteal phase would remain the same. It can delay ovulation though, so if your last cycle was anovulatory, this could be the arrival of your belated ovulation. Any signs of spotting could be mittelsmertsch (sp?) (ovulation related bleeding).

My own cycle turned out to be 28 days this month (after checking back through my diary etc) which is unheard of for me and meant we were in serious danger of actually getting pregnant when we had our accident. My norm is 31-33 days, but it has been up to 36 days, which is what happened last cycle. Anyway, my point is, that I ovulated possibly as early as day 10 this last cycle, when my norm is around day 16. Anything is possible it would seem.

I have considered the Sunderland tests a few times for ds, but think I am scared he will test positive for gluten and casein on their tests and that would leave us in a proper pickle with regards to his diet. Even though I know it would be best for him, just thinking about managing his diet if it was gf/cf gives me the willies. He did improve on the gf diet, but its very hard and expensive to maintain and we agreed with him that we would lean off it slightly once coeliacs had been ruled out as he was missing out on a lot of his favourite foods. He is probably about 85% gf at the moment.

We are supposed to be discussing returning to a gf diet with the dietician on Friday. I asked the paed to refer us, as I didn't want him to go gf again without making sure he was getting the right amount of vits/mins and fibre etc and I didn't feel qualified to work all that out myself.

moosemama · 05/09/2010 23:08

Sorry, yes I do think the stress was that bad. You are being too hard on yourself as usual. There are few things more stressful in life than sitting next to your comatose baby in a ward full of desperately ill children. Not to mention all the stress of being separated from her and trying desperately to get to her side.

If anything is going to affect the way your body functions for a while that has to be right up there.

treedelivery · 05/09/2010 23:10

Oh I feel for you. It reminds me of H-bomb, and the feeling of dread at impending dairy freeness. There is an enormous chance he wouldn't test positive - although where that would leave you I'm not sure. Maybe ordering a bg fat pizza!
No chance of getting the gluten free prescribed, if the paed agrees he is better on reduced/no gluten? You could ask the dietician.

No pregnancy here. Fistly, I am an unlikely candidate to mother the second comng, if you see what I mean, and secondly I have the mirena coil. Grin

Imagine if I was. I'd have to leave work.........but we'd loose the house. Still......

moosemama · 05/09/2010 23:31

No they will only prescribe the gf food if coeliacs is confirmed. Hmm

Think I will wait and see what the dietician has to say, then think about doing the Sunderland thing if the NHS route looks like its not going to be much help.

I hear ya re the second coming - no more little saplings for the time being then. We are much the same, which is why an accidental pregnancy would have been so unfair. (That's how we conceived ds2 actually, once in absolutely months and that was enough!)

That leaves you with unusual ovulation patterns or maybe the coil messing with your hormones?

I have to go to bed now - don't really know why I'm still up, except that I am in denial that its Monday tomorrow and I have a whole new week to slog through look forwards to. I seem to get caught in the extremely daft loop of not wanting to go to bed, because that means the next thing I know it will be morning and all the chaos that it brings, but at the same time knowing that I am only making it worse by staying up. [stoopid Moose emoticon]

Night Tree. Tou are on a long day tomorrow aren't you? Will keep everything crossed for a good shift for you. x

treedelivery · 05/09/2010 23:37

Ta love.

Ha I do that. I won't go to bed because if I do it will be morning....

I need to see someone. Someone good HmmGrin

Sleep well thread, am off to bed too.

btw, not surprised to her they won't prescribe. Shame. That might change if and when more solid evidence emerges. It does seem to be building all the time Smile I owuldn't place huge hopes on the dietician Moose, she may be very NHS and very by the book, as so many of us hp's are. Tell you that dried apricots have a agood amount of iron etc. You never know though Smile

chefswife · 06/09/2010 05:46

^^ Blush

I'm off to bed really myself. I saw a few of you were up late on a school night! Shock Its Labour Day for us tomorrow, although DD is not going to school anyhow. The home schooling thing sounds pretty good me... I hate getting up early, and its getting dark already.

Chat tomorrow Ladies. Hope for some good first day of school stories.

tinkhasboughtoutalltheshops · 06/09/2010 11:34

lots of talking

think i will go for rocketGrin

dd1 is back @ schoolGrin

Lenni · 06/09/2010 15:06

Blush Thank you HKZ.

A little worried about you being scared of me though Tree! I thought I did quite well to resist jumping on your general question about SN children in mainstream classrooms though. Practically my favourite subject matter, I could use an entire thread on that one.

Moose - Sorry about DS's diet issues, maybe would be worth doing your own tolerance testing, are they reliable? If they are fairly reliable at least it would put your mind at rest. My FIL did one once though that told him he was intolerant of red wine, lol, he wasn't too happy. Then he asked his GP about it and GP laughed at him and said he'd been robbed, the one he did obviously wasn't very good. He did stop drinking wine for a while though, and unsurprisingly felt a lot better Grin

Am booked to go on hols with PILs in a few weeks and MIL is being really nasty all of a sudden. Last time we went away with them I was 5 months pg with DD and she was absolutely vile for the whole trip - tbh I wasn't that nice back, but she'd really pushed me over the edge by that point. I am trying to remain calm, but am starting to seriously regret agreeing to going. They only want us to go so can show off their grandchildren to all their friends over there which I don't mind, but no chance am letting them take the DCs halfway across the continent without me so think it is reasonable to expect some degree of pleasantness. Argh.

Lenni · 06/09/2010 15:07

Hello chef Grin