June Mummies 3 - One handed typers over here!!

[Cooperoo]

A new thread.

Morning All,

Coop, DH?s reasoning was that 5:30pm is too early to eat an evening meal, and he?d be hungry again by 8pm. Personally, I don?t see the problem in eating 2 evening meals, but he does. Actually it was a blessing that DH didn?t want to eat as he got to hold DS, while I stuffed my face and had a lovely holding-baby-free meal out. I think I quite liked that arrangement. Hope the expressing went well. Glad everything went well with DD in her big bed. How did it go last night?

Trib, we had to eat early, as we also had my friends? toddler with us. I do follow Gina, but if I want an evening out, I just miss out his bath and get him fed and into bed as soon as I get home. It worked quite well, he ended up in his cot about ½ hour later than usual. Sorry the Amsterdam trip was a bit stressful. I hope you did have some fun while you were there.

EYM, glad you had a nice chat to your sister and you?re feeling a little better.

Bubb

I've just been out buying DS some 3-6month clothes. G-d, buying for him is even harder than buying for me (although, admittedly, i am seriously out of practice, i refuse to buy anything until i'm back to my usual size). Everything out there is just SO cute. Dont know how all of you with DD's manage, the clothes for little girls are just so beautiful . Do you think it will damage DS psychologically in later life if I stuff him into some pretty little dresses and flowery cardigans

Charley- I find Dr Browns the best bottles. I shelled out a fortune on haberman feeders just to find they make DS puke as the teat is so long. I don't know why they made the teat that long. The system would have worked as efficiently with a shorter teat. It goes right to the back of his mouth and makes him gag - therefore puked feed. I only used it to try and give him water too but some people swear buy them.

Not much going on here, though saying that I have an ante natal meet up today.

Hope everyone is ok.

jonah-have also bought some 3-6 month stuff.ive even bought beyond that,actually.
not only are the clothes really cute,he takes me ages to work out the season's to make sure i'm not buying ds a t-shirt for december.

i'd also be a nightmare if i had a girl.everything would be pink-its my favourite colour.!

morning ladies hugsssss

Bubbs awwwww poor you at least your ds finally settled down, give him lots of cuddles and yes it was so hot yesterday.

William is a little tinker for weeing too lol all over hubby play station on on his poor head.

I agree about the girls cloths are so pretty and theirs so much choice lol but ive been band from buying anymore cloths.

Its took me all my time to convince hubby i need an easy buggy lol which i can put up and down easliy and not take 30 mins.

As were of to skegness butlins for a long weekend end of sept just me hubby and william cant wait.

I think talking to my sister and also realising that what my other sisters are doing to regarding the screening has helped me alot. We aslo talked about mum dying and how we couldnt have known it would be so fast, which is true dignosed in the july she was dead by the november its just that i wished we had done things so differently but she made me realise we did everything we could possibly do thinking that mum could surrive maybe a year thats what we were told.

Anyway hubby has been lovely and was very upset that he didnt pick up on my sadness until i broke down.You see we had only been married in the febuary before mum was diagnosed so they many things happened all at once.

Anyway william slept last nite again this time form 9 pm till 4 am this morn yayyyyy lol so feel more refreshed today.

chat later xxxxxxxx

Afternoon ladies

EYM - so glad you've had this chance to talk to your sisters - there's nothing like a good old talk to put things into perpective, and realise that others are feeling the way you are too. Good luck for all of you when you do have your tests. Great news about ds sleeping through that long - wonderful - when you find out what you did - be sure and tell the rest of us with non sleep througher's!

Trib - oh how awful for your trip - as Jonah says hope you managed to enjoy most of it despite the travel/cry stress. LOL at the Co - "sleep"

Bubb - so is that what we're supposed to do - colour co-ordinate with our hair, he he he - I look awful in mousey brown tho! . Agree much more choice for little girls clothes - dh says this is so that little boys get used to the fact that there's 70% less choice for men vs women in the clothing dept of life

Have been going slowly mad today...had to stay in for men to collect a hire car and they didn't turn up until nearly 3pm and obviously you just get a between 8am and 6pm when you try and tie a time down, grrrr, and ds had to stay home instead of going to mil's as yesterday he managed to block her toilet by flushing away (or not as the case may be!!!) the plastic block holder that sits under the rim of the toilet so now we'll have reimburse the cost of the plumber, grrr - and boy is it hot today - oh yeah and the baby won't stop crying - still dh will be home in 1 1/2 hours and then he can have some quality kids time!

Tea-it's brown at the mo,but ive a hairdresser's appointment tomorrow,so only another day and it'll be pink again.

wow,how did your ds manage that? our toliet doesnt even flush the paper sometimes.

hello ladies,
lots going on it seems, must catch up yet again.

congrats on driving tests, something i dont think i will ever do, have pathologic fear of cars.
pretty pleased with hair and new hairdresser, really made me feel good, also bought some clothes, ignore the fact they are huge, at least they are not tight.

so much poop talk! dd quite good at very loud long squirting poops, its a skill.
i did not not know there was so much difference with teats, i pretty much always used the avent things but then again she only has one bottle of expressed milk a day, she never had colic and the like.

re heart murmur dh had one and had surgery while a toddler, the only thing now is that he must take antibiotics before any minor surgery or dental treatment. he is in no other way affected, healthy and fit. so i guess if doctor did not mention surgery its probably even less of an issue- hope all is well try not to worry too much, pretty impossible i know.

sleeping - dd seems to need bed earlier an earlier she is nearly 13 wks, we started off with endless feeds and sort of settling at around 2 am, these days she generally wants bath at 8 or ealier and is settled not long after. sometimes i give a dreamfeed at around 4am but that is rare usually she hold until 6-7 sometimes even 8. bless the child

just reading that sounds bad sorry thre are different kinds of murmurs is what i meant

Tea, hope you managed to survive the day with your sanity intact. It's tough being stuck in the house with a bored toddler, I try to avoid it at all costs - sometimes it seems like we are constantly on the go. Poor DS2 just has to tag along. When it's just the two of us on Tuesdays and Wednesdays (when DS1 is at nursery) I try to spend some proper one-on-one time with him because I do feel guilty that he gets a bit ignored. He's started laughing in the last few days, every time he does it I cry

DS1 had a mad five minutes this morning whilst I was feeding DS2. He came into the bedroom to tell me that he'd just done a wee in the bin (a wastepaper basket, full of holes ) then threw a shoe at DS2's head. Is anyone using the naughty step or similar and would like to pass on some tips? I'm a bit shy about starting a new thread about it.

DH asked me today how much longer I intend to carry on breastfeeding for because he wants to do some feeds for DS2 (I think he isn't feeling as bonded to DS2 as he did with DS1 at the same age). Not sure what to do for the best really, as I'm enjoying the convenience of breastfeeding and hadn't intended stopping until I go back to work in January. What is everyone else doing?

Trib, sorry your trip was a bit stressful. I hope you managed to have a good time whilst you were there. Do you need the property guide sending again by the way? When are you coming up to Leeds next? We could arrange the next meet-up around your visit?

Coop, your DD is becoming a proper big girl! She's coping really well with it all isn't she? By the way, DS1 started with 'what are you doing?'....the 'whys' won't be far behind

Mandymac, did you have a good time at the cricket? I saw on your other thread that you'd had a good day with DD, hope it continues for you.

Katz, thanks for the coffee morning invite. Not sure we'll be able to make it but I hope it goes well. How many people have you got coming to your house?

Jonah, how's the gym going? Do you feel like you're getting your body back to normal? I'm only asking because I feel like I'm putting on weight and I hate feeling so wobbly but I'm just not doing enough exercise to sort myself out. Had a fitting for my bridesmaids dress on Saturday and it had to be let out

Blimey I have waffled on. Sleep well June babies (and mummies of course).

Cross-posted with you sfxmum. Glad you had such a successful haircut - it's just the perfect thing to cheer you up isn't it? Hope I can say the same about mine on Saturday!

Oh yes heart murmurs - you reminded me SFX...EYM I have a congenital hole in the heart. I've never needed any operations, or long term medication, just regular monitoring until I reached adulthood. I've never really noticed a difference between what I can do and what my friends/siblings could do...except it was a great excuse to get out of cross country running at school, he he he...so I'm sure if it's an innocent murmur you shouldn't panic about it. In fact I'm waiting to hear if dd has any problems, have had the scan/ecg just awaiting consultant appointment now, but not overly worried, what will be will be. As SFX says he may just need antibiotics before any surgery or dental treatment...but this is a bonus too as the dentist has to schedule another appointment (antibiotics have to be taken an hour before treatment) so he can't surprise you with the drill!

Mrs W - just remembered you said the WHY'S have come to your family, lol bloody annoying aren't they?? And Coop - the 'what you doing?' questions too, arrhhh kids eh - love them, couldn't eat a whole one . Even more daunting than the why's (I know you didn't think it was possible!) ds has now taken to asking me what I think his pictures are of - should I be honest 'darling they look like a scary early picasso drawing' or do I go with the 'erm, cat/dog/baby/daddy?' route I'm too scared I'll scar him for life if I get the answer wrong

Right must go and pack my bags - off to visit family in Oxford for the next day or two...see those in Reading on Saturday who are coming...and 'see' the rest of you next week...have a good weekend all, x

Mrs W - crossed posts with you there - I'm a very slow typist! Yup survived the day - just - but the bottle of wine dh and I had helped

Must admit I love the days when it's just me and dd (tues/wed) not that I would be without ds, but like you I feel dd just has to fit in when ds is around as he needs soooo much attention since the baby arrived. Have tried the shouting, threatening a smack, actually giving a smack, asking nicely, asking firmly, pretending to be hurt and upset, actually being hurt and upset....not tried the naughty step yet, but am willing to give it a go tho! What ever happened to my adorable little curly tops. He almost delights in doing something, anything to upset the baby , I know it's juts for attention but it doesn't make it any easier eh! Glad in a sad way that it's not just me, was begining to think I was just being a bad mummy .

Morning Junies.

This may be short, as I am waiting for dd to wake up, as we managed to get her down at 8.30pm yesterday . She had a dream feed at 10.30am and a feed at 4.15am and is still asleep, vast improvement on the past few days, where she has only done about 9hrs at night and then got really overtired and screamed all evening.

Mrs W and Coop, Cricket was a bit of a disaster as dd needed a nap, but of course every time there was a wicket, the huge cheers woke her up. We managed 2 hours, and would have been great otherwise, loads of mates there, great atmosphere and weather etc. Oh well you do have to keep trying these things?! .

EYM - Glad you can talk things through with your sister and that you can all support each other .

Jonah - We have also started going out for early dinners with friends at a local french cafe place. Sundays are favourite. It is just so nice to be able to socialise like that, and if dd won't settle one of our friends will usually take her for a walk while we eat . I managed goats cheese salad and moules frites on monday! - Yay, forbidden fruit when pg, scoffing loads of it now . Your DH not eating sounds like a deal to me, so you can just relax .

Mrs W - re: breastfeeding, I am expressing most days, 2 -4 oz, but it is all going in the freezer, while I try to get dd to take a bottle. Plan is that if and when she does, dh could give her 1 bottle per day, probably early evening and then hopefully she would also take one if PILs or my mum babysat. All pipe dreams at present as she is just spitting out the teats . I am hoping to keep breastfeeding until Nov and then start introducing formula, as dd will be going to nusery from Jan when I go back to work .

Bubb - sorry to hear that ds is back in plaster - he sounds like a real champ though, and taking it all really well. Must be really hard for you though.

Re: Girls clothes, they are cute, but we hardly used all the pretty dresses etc that we got bought for dd, the just rode up around her chest and got all twisted and uncomfortable. I'm really happy now, as we have just bought her (boys) jeans and combats , which she will be wearing with more girly tops etc. Love pink, but not a big fan of the frill! . I love all the boys stuff, but then I live in trs most of the time myself!

SFX - Glad your haircut went well. I'm going to try and go on Saturday, mind you, once it is cut, will never get time to style it, don't even dry it anymore, just stick it up and leave it .

Tea and all mums of more than one, you all have my admiration, makes me go all funny just thinking about trying to cope with more than one at the moment. Will that change??? Do you really forget how difficult the first few months are, or do you just feel more able to cope after having your first? If I do want another, being so old I really will have to be thinking about this soon.

Soz if missed anyone since last post (know I will have) . But really must go and get dd up as we are off to town shopping (for mummy!) soon .

Good days to all, maybe catch up later.

morning all,

Mrs W-sounds like you had an eventfull morning yesterday.sorry but couldn't help laughing at the bin incident,especially as it's full of holes.

Mandy-shame about the cricket waking your DD.At least you had nice weather and great company.

Tea-hope you enjoy your busy weekend.

We went to see a friend and her new baby last night.hadn't been to her house before so were following directions.We got there without a hitch but coming home we took the wrong turning and ended up in Kent.It was a good job i had some change on me as we had to pay the toll fee twice.Didnt get home till after 11oclock so Ds was by then screamimg for his feed,which he normally has between 10-10.30.He did sleep through till 8am so can't complain there.

Just wondered if any of the babies are rolling over yet.It took DS ages but he actually rolled over onto his tummy last night,then cried because he got stuck and couldn't roll back.Looks like I'll have to watch him like a hawk now.

morning all
reading about first babies antics and will to have second fading fast. i have been told that ideal gap should be 3-4yrs to avoid terrible twos but, again due to my advancing years that might not be an option. i worried enough about this one being ok, not keen to increase chances of possible problems. i thought i would wait until dd is just over 15months or so.
dh goes silent at mention on second child, at present i think not even the prospect of unsafe sex is alluring enough.

about bottles, like i said i have been expressing and giving bottle pretty much from day one, this was mostly because she was not taking to left breast. she does now but still i express anout 100ml in the morning for dad to give at around 7pm.

about going back to work the plan is january dad and i work flexible and on different days so that we take care of her. that would be ok if circunstances dont change. money wise it will be tighter than before the child was born but i think childcare would cost more. its complicated.

Very short message but just wanted to say 'Hi honeys I'm home!'
No time to read anything but have been thinking of you and wondering how you were all getting on. Anyone able to give me the headlines for the last 2 weeks???
Will catch up soon
Welshie xxx

Hi all
Wow loads of posts again.
EYM - Glad you were able to talk things over with your sister about your Mum and your tests. It sounds like you have had a year of highs and desperate lows with a wedding and a baby and the sad diagnosis and passing of your Mum. It is hard enough to cope with a newborn and the hormones that race around without the added stresses you are having. My heart goes out to you. You are dealing with it so well and positively. .
RHM - I can't wait for creche to start again too, for dd1's benefit as well as mine. They start on Monday so that will be 2hrs on a Mon and Wed I have dd2 to myself. Bless dd1 but I am really looking forward to it and may put dd1 in for another session.... Have ds's feeds settled a bit now? Do you think he was having a growth spurt before. Yawn for you at the night feeds. I know the feeling as dd1 was a nightime feeder, although I only had her to worry about at that time of course.
Trib - Awww poor you at your Amsterdam trip. . Have you any more news about ds's reflux? Poor mite and poor you. Keep reminding yourself it will pass, it will pass, it will pass. It must be exhausting.
Jonah - I get the meal thing now. Sounds perfect for you though lol. As dd1 got a bit older (4mths) she would sleep really well in her car seat so we used to eat out alot just taking her with us and she only woke up once. We would do the nightime routine and put her in her seat after her feed and then drive to the restaurant, put her under the table, eat, and drive home. Luckily the eateries here are very close so she wasn't in her car seat for too long. She would then feed when we got home and go straight off again. It was great. I am hoping dd2 will do the same so we can get a babysitter for dd1 and take her with us for meals while we are still here and can still afford it lol. I don't think ds would mind if you put him in girls clothes . DMIL has a pic of my broIL in bunches age 3, at his request lol.
Bubb - How is DS and his legs. It is obviously not holding him back if he is rolling already WOWOW. DD2 has done the arching back and head thing to try but is no where near it yet thankfully, although she does still insist on standing if we are holding her against our chests. V strong little legs.
Tea - Hmm dont know how to help on the old painting front. Can you let me know the answer??
Mrs W - Awww at DS laughing. How lovely. I am going to try to carry on b/f till 12 months as this is what I did for dd1 and she then went straight onto cows milk. I can see where your dh is coming from but don't feel pressured into stopping for that reason as he has the rest of his life to bond and you can only bf for this short time. Only stop if you want to or you may regret it I think. That is only from speaking to other mums anyway. (Hope you don't think I am preaching). My dh hasn't bonded as much yet either as he always seems busy with dd1. This is why our evenings are so precious as it is time for him to hold and cuddle dd2 without dd1 disturbing us. I do alot more with dd2 like baths and all nappy changes etc and he seems to look after dd1 more when we are all together. I think things will begin to balance out but for us this is the best way at the moment.
We do have a naughty step, well a seat actually, and dd1 gets put there after two warnings and is not allowed to move until she is calm and ready to say sorry for whatever she has done. If she moves off it she gets put back without anything being said ie minimum attention. I have to say it works. Just the threat of it now gets her to calm down and stop what she was doing. I have been watching Supernanny, can you tell?? It works better for us than the time out because dd1 is still quite young (2.5) and I don't want to put her out of sight, plus have no where I would be happy to put her!! The chair is just in the hall way near the kitchen and the front room. If she has tried to hurt dd2 (has happened twice) I also make a big fuss of dd2 and ignore dd1 until she says sorry. I really like the idea that I have an action to take and it helps me to keep my temper under control (usually). HTH
MAndy - Yay for your dd's good day. Lol at the wickets going and waking poor dd up. I can just see that now. We find that dd1 slept through constant loud noise though like at a wedding reception or a big rugby party they had here which was open air and live bands. DD1 came along in her pushchair and slept through the lot. She woke up when it all stopped though!!
Vests are the best for little babies to stop that ride up. That is why I love vests and babygrows. Much more comfy for them to lie and sleep and feed in too.
SFX and Mandy - Two babies is fantastic. You don't get to sit down much though. There is a great thread on this at the moment. I will try to find it. The good thing about a small gap is that the older child may still have a lunchtime nap so you may get a break midday. I am loving it and although there is no denying it is hard work it is so worth it when dd1 gives dd2 spontaneous kisses on the forehead and tells complete strangers about her new baby sister. .
DD is still going great guns in her big bed and doesn't get out at all even in the mornings . She has started pooing in her knickers if we are out though so this is the next one to crack. We made it to toddler group today and I really enjoyed seeing everybody although I did feel torn between dd1+2 as I was paranoid about dd1 having an accident (as indeed she did). Never mind we shall persevere. Right have to go and do DH some lunch as he will be home soon.
Have to do my back execises too as I am struggling with that. My pedometer arrived and so I am making sure I do my 10000 steps each day. It is easy with two children lol. Bye for now.

Hi Welshie
Glad you had a good time. Can't do headlines now (see mammoth post below). Unsurprisingly x posted with you as was typing off line.

link here to 2nd baby thread

Hi all. Hope some of you having better weather than the grey, rainy day we're having here.

Mrs W - thanks for the dream feed tip. I read about them on another thread and we did try it. We put ds down about 7 (a couple of hours earlier than normal) then went to bed at 11. I took him out of the cot, changed him, stroked him, turned on the light and talked and laughed, but he would not wake up. He was completely blotto and ignored the breast totally. So I get a bit confused when people talk about "topping up" last thing at night. How do you wake the baby up enough to feed?

Also - hope this not tmi - wondered if I could do a quick straw poll on who has had their time of the month? Am exclusively bfing and ds 14 weeks today. Had thought I would get longer than this - not sure whether to worry that ds not getting enough milk?

Morning junies hugsssssssss

wow what a funy morning william has been feeding every hour, and then sometimes just taking an ounze and going back to napping maybe its the weather? how are all your babies today?

Last nite he woke twice again so we didnt get our long sleep and hubby has been up with him since 5am this morn lol finally give up put wiliam near me and said im going to have a sleep on the sofa at that william fell fast asleep.

Coops what a great post thats agreat idea about the going out for meals. Hope it works for this time.

Welcome back welshmum were of to wales in november to my sisters wedding in Ruthin. Never been before so were looking forward to it.

right chat later hubby s home for dinner xxxxx

SFX-we're also wondering about another baby.at the moment we're not actually using any contraceptives-these things CAN take a long time to happen.also worrying about the age factor,as obviously we're also not getting any younger.

Welshie-welcome back.hope you had a nice time away.

Coop-sounds like the naughty step is working for you.it certainly works for jo frost! glad to hear your dd is still enjoying her big bed,aswell as her little sister.
i bought a pedometer a while back,but i ended up breaking after about a week,so i gave up with the steps.did start a new diet this week though,which seems to be going well.

Lummox-my af hasnt returned yet.thought it was going to a couple of weeks ago,but by the afternoon it had finished.im not breastfeeding though,and my gp said it could take upto 12 weeks for it to return.
ds will be 12 weeks on sunday!

Bit more time now. Am a bit disorientated having missed nearly 3 weeks of the thread - please forgive me if I don't read it all back and just pile in.
How's everyone feeling about strictness ? Ds is now 13 weeks and big enough to be allowed to yell a bit I think. I've vowed to crack the 'sleeping on me in the evening' thing first so last night he was yelling for an hour in his cot before sleeping - and then only for 30 mins the little rascal. He really needs to learn how to settle himself without a nipple or a warm body (at least until he's 21) Tomorrow the sleep counsellor is coming so I'm determined to follow her advice. She told me on the phone that she 'wasn't Gina Ford - less regimented than that' - fingers crossed and will report back if you like.
I've just come back from baby cinema - Bewitched - what a treat to see a film, wasn't that bad either.

goodness! sometimes dont manage to post for a week sometimes manage several a day, which reminds me

EYM - dd also has days like that i put it down to growth spurts or some other baby thing going on with her...

lummox- no period and not likely for a while i plan to breastfeed for first year and also due to pcos not expecting one before weight goes down

coop- cheers for link

bubbaloo- refuses to roll over but can drag self out of changing mat and baby gym quite effectively, also major babbling going on quite loud and with wide repertoire of sounds.

about girlie clothes, well, i am not known to be a girlie girl so lots of people sent dd pink skirts and dresses, guess so that she does not feel deprived. i find them fiddly and not at all practical, she goes around mostly in baby suits with the occasional trousers thrown in

another thing dd has taken to sucking her fingers to the point of gagging. at first i thought it was hunger but clearly isn't. she does not use it exclusively to go to sleep, just hope its not early teeth. was hoping for bite free feeding for a while yet

Lummox - No AF here, but dd is only 10 weeks. I seem to remember Pink saying 6wks and she is bf too. I am sure ds is getting plenty as I think it varies from person to person. Is he going longer between feeds?? You can't do any more than you did to try to wake him up lol. Try cold water at the nappy change (I am only half joking), but apart from that ?????.
Welshie - Welcome back. What is baby cinema???? Sounds great. Please let us know how the sleep counsellor goes and what she says. Oh and good luck.
EYM - Yes fingers crossed on the meals out lol.
Bubb - Good luck with things .
SFX - DD2 made herself gag today too sucking on her fingers.
I hasten to add that the step doesn't work all the time but mostly does. If I am tired I end up shouting so I try to use the step for dd more than for me. I hate shouting at her, and she has just started doing sad faces to make me feel dreadful if I am nipping to the shop or going for a walk without her lol. Someone once said to be a parent is to feel guilty. I have to agree sometimes.