June Mummies 3 - One handed typers over here!!

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A new thread.

Arrrrrgh - After 3 weeks of having to rock, walk, swing, buggy etc dd to sleep for every nap (and they mostly only last half an hour), I rang our health visitor, who suggested putting her in her moses basket and leaving her to cry it out . So we have. Feel really bad doing it, but she is getting so overtired from not being able to nap and I actually have callouses on my hands from jiggling the buggy so vigourously to get her to sleep (not that I care to be honest!).

Well it took 20 minutes, but all is now quiet . Do any of you do this? I know Gina (ssssh - don't tell anyone I mentioned her), recommends 10mins 'crying down', so I guess 20 mins for a first try isn't bad.

nb: DH did try everything to get her to sleep before we resorted to leaving her in her basket.

As you can tell I'm feeling pretty guilty and hoping you can reassure me that I'm doing the right thing. As HV says she won't remember, we will!!!

I think you are doing the right thing MandyMac {{{ whisper }}}} i also "dabble" with Gina. I think that letting them cry for a bit is fine.
I have found that if you put them to sleep in their cot / crib and let them cry for a bit with their daytime sleeps - you will have less trouble at night if that makes sense

Thanks Tessie - by the way, she has just woken after half an hour and is crying again (she always wakes half an hour into a nap, but that doesn't seem like long enough to do her much good), would you leave her to settle herself again??? I forgot to ask HV what to do about that bit!

half an hour - 45mins is when babies come into light sleep - Gina suggests letting them settle themseves if they wake as they enter this "phase"of sleep. If they can get throught the first 30 - 45 minutes and get back to sleep they are more likely to have a better sleep.
Bu tit is the first time you have done this and i am sure if you persevere within a few days she will be settling herself to sleep a lot better (thats the theory )

HI there!!
Running like a mad hare. Had a friend announce at the last minute she was coming by to stay with me...
It is nice having company, but is a ll a bit hectic

Lummox - My DS seems to be like your DD. He usually is very cranky and needing to go to sleep by 8PM, but it doesn't seem to matter whether I give him a dream feed or not at 11PM (he does take it), he still wakes up at 2AM! and then 4,6, etc...
He settles back easily, so I am not complaining too much. And some of the time he doesn't actually want the breast, just his finger or a warm body seems like... But it would be really nice to get only one waking... so... Welshie, pass on the tips!! and welcome back!

No af here. I never had one with DD until 15 months after birth!!! (one month after stop bfing) Crossing my fingers it will happen again!!

MrsW. Can't your DH give DS EBM once a night? Or maybe give him a bath to help with the bonding?

When DD went into nursery at 5 months, I kept with morning and evening Bf, and express twice at work, so she had EBM for two bottles at nursery. It worked pretty well until she was a year, when she went into normal milk, and I stopped expressing. I still bf for a couple more months morning and evening... Hope it will work similarly this time. The factDS is so big worries mea bit, but will cross this bridge when it comes to that....

Lua - does your ds actually wake fully, eyes opening, crying etc? as dd normally starts to grumble about 2am, but never cries (well maybe one 'yelp') and if I ignore it and keep quiet, she settles back down (note this is only at night, as you will see from previous post, daytimes are another kettle of fish entirely). She does the same at 4am, and I normally feed her then, as my boobs are bursting by that point . Then again at sometime between 6am to 7.30.

Don't know if this is at all relevant to you, but thought it might help .

Mandy - yeah! Hedoes a fill cry by 2AM. I usually ignore the first crying in hopes he would settle himself. I keep planning on trying to help him settle with a dummy or something to see if he goes on for longer, but as he is falling asleep by 8PM, I am already bursting by 2Am , so happily oblige with the boobs!
I guess without pain, there is no gain! must try to hold on with him tonight!!

Evening junies hugssssss

William has been unsetled all day, i hope its the weather he finally fell asleep on his play mat at 8 30 pm and heasnt woke yet so hopefully better nite.

You sound like you all doing really well with breast feeding well done wish i could done it for longer, and whats this dream feed your all talking about?

Mandy william did the same last nite woke about 1 30 am gave a grumple and went back to sleep.

As for bonding hubby is great at it sits and cuddles william and makes the same noises as william lol which is amazing to watch and now im bottle feeding he does the early morning feed before going to work.

anyway lets hope we all have a good nite xxxxxxxxx

Hello everyone, not posted in ages as have nothing much to say, but am enjoying everyone else's comments! All is very calm in the Nogger household. DD2 is 13 weeks old today - yikes, time is running away with me. She is an angel, laughing her head of all day long and SLEEPING - 12 hours straight though at night (we've dropped the dreamfeed as she never really took much in anyway and it clearly made no difference) and three naps in the day. She is a joy to be with, and, finally, so is DD1. Off on holiday tomorrow - yippee!

Morning All

EYM, dream feed (at least my interpretation of it) is a feed where baby is asleep and you barely wake them to feed and then put them straight back down again when finished, so a sleepy feed - sure there is a 'book' definition, but this is what I have taken it to mean after reading about it on mn.

Nogger - very of your DD's routine, sounds lovely! My dd was yawning after feed & change this morning, which I took to indicate that a nap was required, but she is now shouting at me for putting her in her swing , I'm going to leave her in there for another 5 mins and then give up.

Morning All,

Bubb, hope you?re suitably pink again. Congrats on your rolling DS. We?ve still got that little delight ahead of us. We've got lots of back arching, so i guess its a matter of time...

Mrs Wed, the gym?s going okay but I don?t feel particularly different to how I was before I started excercising. Most of the weight fell off naturally and I wanted to shift the last few pounds in the gym, which don?t seem to be going. I am convincing myself that muscle weighs more than fat so it will take a bit longer to lose all the weight . Also, I understand that its hard to lose the final few pounds if you?re b/feeding as your body keeps some natural fat deposits. Does anyone know if that?s right? On the upside, I?m definitely feeling fitter and less lethargic, which is lovely.

Also, on the DH feeding front, have you thought about expressing a bottle?s worth each day for your DH to feed DS2? That?s what I?m doing at the moment. It?s a bit of a faff, but DH and DS seem to enjoy it. That way, you can carry on BF and DH can be involved

Tea, lol at DS?s Picasso leanings

Mandy, oooh, moules frites? G-d that has made me hungry and I?ve just had breakfast . Sounds like you have some v.good friends . Re the Gina crying time, we used that method in the evenings. We had 2 evenings of hell, then we cracked it. For what its worth, I think you?re doing the right thing. As long as you know that DD is fed, watered, the right temp, clean nappy, I think its okay to leave them. We went to check on ds every 15 mins and comfort him. Now, when I put him down in the evenings, he?ll happily lie there until he nods off. DS also has his "light" sleep periods, usually at about 5-6am. He'll grunt for a while, then go straight back off to sleep. Bless him.

Better dash, wakey time for little boys.....

morning all
dreamfeed, yes i love it! dd cot next to my bed so i sense when she moves different and pop her on the boob, mostly she does not even open her eyes. she does not need it every night and sometimes i am not very sure i actually did it, not being very awake myself. last night however i did as usual but when i put her down the poor child was flopping about like a fish out of water, eventually i picked her up thinking wind, but no burps came and she slep through it all. clearly paranoid parenting.

housework! when do you get the time, was thinking joint effort at weekend,but nice weather and lovely walks by the river are so much more appealing...

talk of forbiden pregnancy food... oh lovely!
soft cheeses, sea food wine well that is a weekend plan right there

Hello all,
Just flying by to say hello. Nogger am v , but so glad you are well and enjoying it all. DD woke at 2.30 and 5 last night so perhaps my confidence in her sleeping was a bit premature. Having said that I plonked her in her cot after a feed at lunchtime to do dd1's lunch (we live in a bungalow) and went back to get her and she was asleep . She has fallen asleep on her playmat before now but not for a while so that was a nice surprise. I am taking her to my friends this afternoon to have a cast taken of her hand and foot to be put in a frame. We did it for dd1, although she was much bigger before we got around to it. It is quite pricey but something to keep forever. My mum hates them lol as she thinks they look a bit creepy. I just want a 3d record of how small she was as I can hardly remember what she was like as a newborn already! Then we are off for a BBQ with some friends so that will be nice too.
Jonah - I think you are right about the b/f / weight thing. I have found that most of the weight has dropped off through feeding but as you describe the last few pounds are going no where. Your body needs the reserves. At least that is my story and I am sticking to it. It is nothing to do with the bar of Fruit and Nut in my fridge and the choc ices in my freezer
DD1 did another poo in her pants today even though we were at home so I am off to search the archives for some advice. Bye for now.

Hi KVG

We have had about 2-3 weeks like this with dd at about the same time (shes now 11wks). Couldn't put her down anywhere for a while, seems to be coming out of it now, and we worked out that her bouncy chair (one of the old fashioned wire framed ones) wasn't that comfy for her. Have invested in a more supportive vibrating rocking chair and although she won't sleep in it, she seems happy enough sitting in it.

This also seemed to be related to her sleeping less in the daytime and not dropping off by herself, I am now trying to get her to nap better and to move her bedtime forward to try and sort this out, but it is early days yet. More sleep does seem to make her less grumpy and grizzly, although 5pm to 8pm are still difficult!

Hugs - I know it is really hard. Was waking up dreading the day a bit, but it has improved!

Afternoon all,

We have just come back from a lovely walk in the park-what a gorgeous day!
Went to the baby clinic this morning and ds is now 14lb 9(with the casts!),ao his true weight is about 13lb 15,which is 11lb heavier than last week.
Also mentioned to the hv about a little lump on his neck,which she thinks is nothing to worry about and told me to take him to our GP just to put my mind at rest.Will also mention the shape of his head when we go on tuesday as it's still a perculiar shape,due to the accident.

Coop-hope you enjoy your barbie today and dont eat too many of those choc ices.
I've lost a couple of pounds on my diet this week which im pleased about-only have about another 7 stone to go.

Jonah-yes,its very pink.

Feel like I've missed loads. What's up with Lynny? Please give her my love and best wishes KVG.
The sleep lady has just been to see me - she was really fab and made me feel much better and really hopeful. I now have a plan to put into action tonight - will report back tomorrow, I figure there's no point in the detail now in case it all goes tits up xxx

Afternoon junies hugsssss

weve had alovely day here too, my friend has been down with her baby boy who is 8 weeks older than william but its 14 1b s and so big hes a lovely baby full of smiles, lol will just napped and fed all the time they were here.

last nite we had a better sleep william only woke twice, going back to the dream sleep i think wiliam has that on his 2am feed then.

Coops enjoy your barbie its deffaintely the weather for it.

As for the weight thing i know how you all feel. stuck in limbo land lol nothing fits and all this nice waether too.

chat later xxxxxxx

evening all

well i've given up trying to keep up!!!

At DD2's 8 week check the GP said her leg fat was uneven and asymetrical and she would look again at 12weeks. Well at 12 weeks is still the same so we are going to have to go and have her hips scanned. She is also a huge baby weighing in at a hefty 13lb 13oz at 12 weeks!! soooooo much bigger than DD1 at the same stage

OH MY GOODNESS!!!! The sleep thing worked - not a little bit worked - but worked loads.
In one fell swoop ds
*went to bed in his own room at 7pm (no sleeping on me)
*gave up feeding every 2 hours (fed at 8pm,midnight,and 4am - huge improvement)
*didn't yell much at all - little bit at beginning of the evening
*woke up with a huge smile at 0730
I love the sleep lady she was great when she spoke to me and now her plan is working I am just delighted with her.
Sorry to go on but just had to share it with those who understand

Yes, yes,yes, tell me....

LOL!
I am very happy for you welshie!
I am definetely interested in hearing what she said. I am also very curious to find out how does one find a "sleeping lady"... How did you find her?

Yes, yes,yes, tell me....

LOL!
I am very happy for you welshie!
I am definetely interested in hearing what she said. I am also very curious to find out how does one find a "sleeping lady"... How did you find her?

Pleeeeease tell us (up at 12, 2, 4 and 6 emoticon)

Morning junies hugssssss

I agree plz tell us welshie and well done.

Ive got one sleepy baby here and hubby at the moment been up since 5 am feed again.

Hubby started going down stairs at 6am to get some sleep on sofa. I was so tired this morning william woke at 5 and then 6am too only took 2 ounzes at five i think he just wanted a cuddle.

Katz hope everything is ok with your litle one hugsssss.

Right were of shopping today but every time we go wiliam goes red in the face really strange just when were food shopping. lol my sis says he doesnt like cheap food shops take him to asda he ll be fine.

Anyway hope we all have a better day xxxxxxxx