June Mummies 3 - One handed typers over here!!

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A new thread.

Welshie, you just made me cry too. I will be looking for the full poem, the bit you quoted is beautiful.
Sorry you are feeling so emotional, Glad it was a wonderful day and hope the inlaws get off OK. Did they emigrate there or did you marry a kiwi? I know what you mean about the children having time with the grandparents. It is a huge factor in my upset at being so far from home. If it were just DH and I it would be very different. You will have to get busy planning the next trip.
We are hoping to get both dd's christened when we get back but I don't know where. I would love for it to be in the church in Mums village where we got married as I think we could swing it, but then perhaps it should be where we live. DD1 didn't get done when we were in the Uk and we didn't want it done out here without people. I am looking forward to organising something when we get back. Mums church would very much be part of the normal sunday service with everyone welcoming the dd's so it kind of feels wrong to have it there if we are not living there as lovely as it would be.
Ho hum. Right off for now.

P.S. They will get plenty enough love from you and that love is still there, just a bit further away. Get a webcam! dd1 loves to see her Grandpa on the computer, although it can confuse her a bit lol.

Welshie, love the poem, and congratulations on a fab christening. How great that your dad did the honours! So far day 2 of the "put ds in his cot" programme is going well, tomorrow we are going to tackle the daytime sleeps as well.

Coop, I actually missed my family a lot when abroad without kids, now I would find it really tough Although being 600 miles from dh's family would be a massive plus point

Lippy, I'm with you on the 'never getting on top of things' feeling, it never ends, does it? Always about 100 things on my to-do list.

Glad you like the poem Coops - it's by Sharon Olds and I found it in an anthology called All the Poems You Need to Say Hello. When I get down about it being hard work it kind of reminds me about what a huge thing we're done - bringing 2 whole new little people into the world. I'm in a right old soppy state tonight.....
In answer to your question I married a Kiwi - poor bugger never intended to end up in Britain but he's been stuck here for more than 13 years now.
trib - again - really well done on the 'cot programme' - it's so worth it - you go for it girl.

welshie, my contribution to the 'cot programme' has been NOTHING! This is entirely down to dh, I take no credit whatsoever. Thank goodness for him.

Hello All

Wow we all stayed off the 'puters for a whole day on Saturday - bizarre!!!

Well its been an interesting weekend. DD fairly happy now sleeping in her cot, and we had a fab day on Saturday, she had 2 x half hour naps in the morning and then napped for 2 hours from 12.30pm to 2.30pm . We were feeling brave after that, so took her to our local bistro/cafe with my sister who was up visiting, where we had a very civilised 2 hour meal, with dd sitting on our knees very happily and then napping for a half hour in her buggy. She then went down for the night at 7pm, so we ordered in Pizza, drank wine and watched Billy Elliot. Fed at 11pm, 3.30am and 6.30am.

Needless to say, today didn't go so smoothly, but just goes to show that occassionally it can all go right (just once in a while is a real result!). DH also got up with dd at 7am this morning, so I got a lie in (hmm well kind of) - to 8.30am . Paying for it now though, as he has gone to bed, whilst I am hanging on for dds 10pm feed. I'm debating with myself whether to do a 'gina' feed and wake her properly in the hope that it means she will then go through to later (5 or 6am) or just to 'dream feed' her, but then she will probably wake at about 3ish??? I'm always so scared of doing anything new incase it backfires on me - i'm a coward.

Welshie - christening sounds lovely and poem made me well up too. Mind you, dh and i both cried at Billy Elliot last night .

Coop - thats tough that you won't be nearer your families when you come back. Both our families are in London, and I never really thought it was an issue until dd arrived and now I would love it if they were closer. The LO's change so much week to week it seems such a shame that they miss out on seeing them more and that we miss out on all that excellent babysitting potentential . Hope dd1 is feeling better.

EYM hope william is feeling better too!

Trib - well done on cot thing. Its weird seeing them in big cots - they look tiny again in them. I'm paranoid that dd will somehow get her arm stuck and twist it in the spars, even though the gap is huge. She keeps twisting, so her head ends up against the spars with an arm hanging out, so I've put a rolled up cellular blanket there to act as a buffer, but now I'm worried she will push her face into that and overheat or worse - don't know what to do for the best.

Lippy - I am never on top of anything. I have taken to dusting (only areas you can see), with baby wipes. My floors get swept, but never washed. I just about manage the washing up and washing, but thats it! But I have a high tolerance for dirt and have always been a slovenly housewife, so my standards are suitably low already .

Hi everyone

Keep trying to catch up, but every second of my day is used up and I'm still really really disorganized

Lol at that darned email bulletin saying 2 month old babies should be playing with their feet! I might just delete the next (3 month)one - it'll probably say he should be talking or something

Thanks for your reassurances about letting ds cry for a bit It's only really his late afternoon snooze when he needs to cry a bit. Dp is usually out, but he was at home today and he made me pick him up when I let ds have a cry (dp was making dinner) he still cried though.

Welshie - Hi! Do you find that when ds is doing that inconsolable crying (y'know, when you leave him for a bit before a sleep) that there are no tears? When my ds does it, there are never any tears. In fact, the only time I've ever seen tears is when he's screaming in his car seat! Perfect Christening - esp with your dad doing it.

Trib - tried the Matrix in the upright position - he still screamed, so put it back down. Had a bit more success when I put his carrycot fleece in there for him to lie in. He snoozed in it for nearly an hour on the way to Bournemouth yesterday Screamed for the last half hour though Same on the way back . Your ds is obviously Very Advanced as he seems to be the first to play with his feet! How you getting on with the Gaviscon - I've just started to cut down on my ds's - his poo was worryingly firm. He won't drink water either which doesn't help. Well done on the cot thing - I'm dreading trying to get ds out of his cosy carrycot and into his proper cot - I tried a couple of weeks ago and he screamed and screamed I was trying to wait until he could fit into a 6 month gro-bag, but I think I'll need to do it sooner as he's beginning to look as if he's outgrowing it. How did you do it? Have you already posted about it?

Hi Lippy! I'm not surprised dd2 can't find her feet - sounds like they're miles away, she's so long! Remember muscle weighs more than fat and you've been doing a lot of exercise

MandyMac, I've been trying to get ds to sleep after the 45 min thing for about a week - he seems to be getting better. I've found that if I pick him up and play with him for a few mins when he wakes up at 45 mins and he's still tired (ie grumpy), I can get him to go down again with a bit of coaxing with a dummy.

Lynny - hi! My ds never burps unless he's upright so you're lucky. He loves to fart though Sometimes I can try winding him for AGES and nothing and I have to put him down when I'm sure he's still a bit uncomfortable. His digestive system does seem to be settling down now though, fingers crossed. Actually, I've stopped burping him most of the time on a night now.

Bubb - my goodness, you have a large baby! There's no stopping him! My ds was 10 9 the Thursday before last, so I can't wait to see what he will weigh this week.

Katz - I had to tell my dad not to come - he really did my head in actually while we were in SCBU - even phoning their emergency line to try to get hold of me, demanding to know what was going on and wanting to come and visit . This is a man who previously (to me having "his grandchild") called me about once a year and never visited. Couldn't put him off any longer and he visited a few weeks ago - took loads of photos of ds and ds with my (much) younger step sis (who came down with him), and NONE of me with him! He phones all the bloody time now. So I can imagine how you feel. Don't feel guilty. They reap the seeds they sew.

I've been really saddened to read about some of your mums dying, I can't imagine how horrible it must be. Even though my mum and I have problems and aren't close, If ever I think about anything happening to her, it makes me feel sick.

Morning mums lol its nice to see you all back hugs

RE christening hope i didnt offend anyone asking about the preparation, as when i was young as a family we atended church and also me and my brother and sisters went to sunday school, which i enjoyed throughly, also when my poor mum died me and my hubby attended the church for a sunday service where my eldest siter was married, and where my mum used to go every sunday. So I have no problem atttending and i do understand as a parent the under takings of getting my child christened
anyway just thought id clear that up.

Welshie your christening sounds so beautiful especially having your dad performing it, and that poem made me cry to.

Wiliam settled down better yesterday afternoon. took a full feed at last and was his normal happy self im still not to sure what it was that made him unsettled. Last nite we put him in his cot for the fist time, in his sleeping bag he did sleep well, but when he woke up his hands were cold, i was so upset, blowing on them ect, but it did get really cold last nite here. Anyway ended up putting him back in moses basket so i could keep an eye on him, will have to figure out how i can put him in cot and for him to keep warm, he kicks his covers off. Then ill try again. Hes getting to big for his carrycot, hes so long.

lol coops nice knees and them boots, where did u get them from?

Mandy great post, you sound like your doing really well hugs.

ok got to go sir william wants attention xxxxxxxx

Hi Ladies

Well, September has returned, if with a slightly autumnal feel to it, at least it's not wintery like the weekend.

Welshie - I just got your email, I'm sure her partner is the woman I used to know. I'm glad it's sorted things out for you. I must say I have relaxed about regimented sleep times. I know a bit more instinctively now when dd2 might be tired or overtired and go with that rather than when I want her to sleep (when I have my lunch during neighbours ). Ds's christening sounded wonderful and a truly emotional time for you.

Those with relatives far away, it's very tricky. When we lived in NZ without children I was terribly homesick. Now, with children, I can't even contemplate taking them away. I think, if we weren't so close to our family we'd definitely go back there, it's perfect.

Mandy, I always cry at Billy Elliot

Charley, you're right, dd2 is too long to find her feet She has a very long body, like her mum.

Dd2 is smiling at me now as I type, she is very content atm, not to mention completely and utterly gorgeous!!!

EYM - I wasn't offended by anything you said about christenings. It just sounded as though you weren't into the religious part very much, that's why I though you might prefer a non religious ceremony Wires crossed.

By the way, dd1 loves her nursery!!! After only 2 days crying when I left she took to it like a duck to water, brilliant!!

Now, I am thinking about potty training Can anyone recommend any books or tips? Dd2 is 2 and almost 4 months, she communicates well, but doesn't like the potty, in fact, cried when faced with sitting on it, good start. Sorry if this has been discussed loads already, I wasn't quite ready to take it in. I'll have a browse on some threads too...

See you all later!

Hello all
Hah, Lippy have my potty posts not put you off??
DD hated the potty to start with but grabbed one of those potty chairs in Mothercare when we were shopping for something else so that got bought and she uses that. Also to start with she prefered the toilet so we bought a step and seat combo so she can be a bit independant about it all. We have spent a fortune on stuff . My only other tips are to buy lots of pairs of knickers, be prepared for accidents and also be prepared to stay in for a few days.....
Top tip from Tea was to go commando (not you obviously). This really helped my dd and have a book or something for her to copy. We have a doll that wees on a potty and a book. She wet knickers all the time until I showed her the book again and the big girls in their big knickers at the end. I wish you the VERY best of luck.

EYM - The boots are from Next and have been returned today with much heartache as I think they are just gorgeous apart from not fitting me at the top (as per the pic). I was trying to convince myself it wasn't that bad, but took that picture and realised that, yes it was .

Lipstick dont worry about wires been crossed hugsss and yes the blessing sounds lovely too.

Coops bet them boots cost a fortune too, lol i cant fit the usual shape too my calfs are to big lol i did howeve get a pair of black sueude boots for my hen weekend in blackpool 70s theme lol and they still fit me.

Im so pleased have got my boobs back lol bought a pretty pink bra and french nickers set lol knickers are like 2 sizes my normal size before baby but what the heck lol

Right girls ive got a question do you find these new leight buggies actually leight?
We went to toyr us this weekend looking for light buggy thats easy to fold ect and none of the buggies we looked at were leight

and im sure ive splelt that wrong

hubby home chat later xxxxx

Coop how old is your dd1? Mine was 2 at the end of may.

I'm looking for some denim shorts for my holiday... something tells me it's too late

Cut the legs off some jeans?

greetings from sunny sorrento!!

not had anytime to read the thread but have five minutes between talks to taek advantage of the internet and email DH and you guys!!!

DD2 seems to be coping with being fed inbetween talks rather than on demand but then it is only day one.

catch up porperly when iàm back at the weekend!

Evening all,

Welshie, what a lovely poem. Sounds like the christening was just perfect. It must have been so special to have your dad so involved. Like everyone else says, there will still be four grandparents who love and adore their grandchildren. The webcam idea is fab though.

Katz, glad day 1 went well. Good luck for the rest of the week.

Not much to report from here. Just put DS to bed. I?m beginning to find that he is not sleeping as well during his daytime naps, although evening and nighttime sleeps are not affected. Anyone else finding this at the moment? He just doesn?t seem to need as much sleep . Must consult Gina to see what she says.

EYM - dd's hands were cold when she woke up too, think it was just colder last night. Don't think it is anything to worry about as I have never seen advice to put mittens on them when they sleep?! . I will probably check with HV just in case though.

Poor dd, I took her to baby massage class today, which meant she was severely sleep deprived by 4pm, so we finally got her to have a 40 min nap at 5.30pm and we've now put her to bed, but she is fighting it as she is overtired and grizzly . Massage class was good though - its at the hospital where I had her, run by one of the midwives who took our ante-natal class. dd behaved quite well and I managed to massage both legs and 1 arm before she protested . In fact she almost seemed to enjoy it and dropped off to sleep the minute I put her in her car seat to go home. .

Might pop in again later, depending on how the evening pans out.

Hugs to all Junies

Lippy - on the potty training - has dd1 got an older friend she plays with who uses one? This really worked with our dd as she was desperate emulate her little mate. That and leaving the potty just sitting around - her natural curiosity got her sitting on it then - we didn't make her. Bribery quite useful as they get going - star charts and treats, special knicker buying outings - but we all enjoy that I guess

mandymac - cold hands are quite normal from what I remember.

Charley - you're always so useful on the clothes front - I remember you boob tube when pregnant - got an suggestions for bfing outfits?
When it came to my christening outfit in the end I decided to wear a pair of old but very lovely and expensive shoes (miu miiu - in the sales) - this took everyone's eyes down away from my bosoms. Was quite pleased with this device - how shallow am I ??? (obviously wore some clothes too )

Lippy - one more thing about potty training - try not to get too upset when they wee all the time everywhere initially. That's how they wee in their nappies - little and often. Their first job is to learn to save the wees up and go all at once. I seemed to be throwing knickers in the washing machine all the time and did get disheartened - it can feel like quite hard going.....still got to do dd's night time training yet - not looking forward to that at all.
Good luck

hello all
just quick post, not had time to catch up much, both dh and i reduced to zombies after weird weekend anyhow. dd having bath, fingers crossed for one good night.

Hello
DD was 2 at the end of March and I think she has probably been ready for training for a few months, but I was not.
Cold hands are OK I think, well at least not a major worry as long as the body or back of the neck are OK. DD is in a footless sleepsuit tonight in an effort to stop her waking so regularly at night, the most clothes she has worn for ages. I have had to pack a load of clothes away as she is in her 3-6 month clothes now she is such a whopper.
Kat - at you finding the time for us while in Italy. I am quite touched lol. Hope dd2 continues to cope with the feeding regime. Am sure she will. You will prob have a great routine by the time you return.
EYM - The next boots would have cost me £70 I think which is why I couldn't justify them unless they were perfect. I have found a company that do boots in calf sizes as well as foot sizes, great for those of us without the 'average' leg (whatever that is). It is Duo Boots . It is expensive though!
Jonah - It wa sa huge shock when dd1 began to be awake more in the days. I really wasn't expecting it as I had only just got used to what she was doing .
Sorry didn't take notes and have to go to bed now as v tired. Hope all the babies (and Mums) sleep very well.

P.S. Jonah, thinking back it was Gina who advised me that dd1 would begin to be awake more in the days and it did stop me being concerned so I did find the book useful after all.

evening all
Finally get to sit down with my bf-friendly glasslet of wine and sound off about my day. Am going to be really really selfish and sound off before catching up with the thread
Although I'm not starting regular lecturing again for a month, have three one-off day courses this week. First was today. dh had ds and I interrupted the course with bf breaks in my office. During the first dh made me a cup-a-soup and brought it to me while I was bf - he filled it too full and was a bit clumsy, and some of it went over the edge and landed on my arm - and ds's head We were so, so lucky, it was only a little bit, none went into his eyes and cooling did the trick so that he was fine really quickly - we could also get hold of a first aider - and now you can only see a tiny red spot and it won't be permanent. But OMG, what a shock. dh's reaction also made me - he did react quickly and got a wet cloth to cool it, but he then got really offhand and dismissive, especially when I said I wanted to take him to the doctor's (first aider had said we should take him when the course was over). He was just really ar$ey. As it turned out when we took him, he was fine, but dh just soooo got my back up. if I'd done that to ds I'd have felt too bad to dare to get ar$ey!
I'm also feeling down about working. Am working from home since last week and managing to find time to spend with ds (am still bf on demand for one, and also finding time to play with him) but having spent the weekend buried in marking I really needed to get done I'm missing him - even though he's in the same room as me! Am of dh (sahd atm) for having the time to play with him. Also when we bath him or change/dress him together, somehow dh seems to physically edge me out (if that makes any sense) and sort of take over, as if he was the 'natural' person to do it (not that he's not, but not that I'm not either) and it makes me worry about my relationship with ds. I do have a lot on atm as there's loads of marking and preparation, and when I get back to teaching I'll actually have more time to spend with ds (actual lectures only amount to half my working time and once the prep's done things will mostly just run), and I do enjoy my job, but still I wish I didn't have to. After all, if I hadn't been at work the scalding prob wouldn't have happened . Feel like a bad mummy...

also a probably really stupid paranoid question...
could hot liquid on the head like that hurt the brain?
will catch up on thread now