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The dust has almost settled. My assessment of how the BNP performed.

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daftpunk · 11/05/2010 14:07

Ok, they didn't make the political breakthrough I'd hoped for, but if you look at the results they are actually very encouraging.

The BNP got 563,743 votes (dispite only fighting half of all the available 650 seats)

They got 10% of the vote. That is pretty amazing for a small party, and under proportional representation those votes would result in seats.

NC will merge with someone (eventually?) and as one of his main aims is to push through PR it's all good for the BNP.

What do these results mean for the BNP ?

The tripling of the BNP vote on May 6th has some important implications.

Firstly, where they went head to head with UKIP and the Greens they thrashed them, they overtook UKIP in 178 seats, and UKIP have far more money than the BNP, and of course UKIP and the Greens are favoured by the media.

Secondly, while all minority parties were pushed to the edge by the bigger parties, the BNP's vote not only help up, but proportionally increased when compared to their June 2009 Euro election results.

The BNP are here to stay, and although the election was a disappointment in some respests, it was a clear sign that 1000's of people up and down the country support the policies of the BNP.

And let's not forget, political pundits had all but written off the Labour party after they lost the 92'election....

They went on to win 3 elections.

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daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:23

Aitch, I've admitted 3 times I typed in the wrong %, big bloody deal, I had 20 stats in my head, it was put right almost immidiately...all other stats are correct and prove beyond any doubt that the BNP are on the rise..

..even you can't deny that.

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Aitch · 12/05/2010 00:23
runnybottom · 12/05/2010 00:25

they don't prove that though, as has been explained to you.

How does one type 10% instead of 1.9% and not notice?

tartyhighheels · 12/05/2010 00:27

daftpunk, you are such a twat!

Aitch · 12/05/2010 00:28

of course i can, numbnuts.

it wasn't a typo, and you didn't put it right at all. you really thought they got ten per cent of the vote... lol. and it took you five days to work up to it.

as for the party on the rise, you must have conveniently ignored missed heathen's earlier post.

By TheHeathenOfSuburbia Tue 11-May-10 16:36:53
Votes per seat contested:

1997 ; 648
2001 ; 1424
2005 ; 1647
2010 ; 1662

Seems to be levelling off.

Given that it takes around 25-30,000 votes to win a seat, I'd say you still have some work to do, DP.

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:28

RB;

Are you actually reading what I'm posting..?

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runnybottom · 12/05/2010 00:30

yes. Are you?
You might also want to read the posts explaining how you are wrong, from the posters who have the patience. I'd rather just throw eggs at you.

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:32

Aitch...

Are you in my brain..?

How do you know what I'm thinking ?...you seem so sure about me

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Aitch · 12/05/2010 00:33

lol

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:36

RB;

The fiqures I quoted were overall votes for the BNP....they are rising.

Fact.

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runnybottom · 12/05/2010 00:37

Hey DP, I have some stats for you to look at!

General Elections....no of BNP MP's.
1983.........................0
1987.........................0
1992......................... 0
1997.........................0
2001.........................0
2005.........................0
2 010.........................0

You must be so proud!

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:40

Beware of the person who has nothing to lose

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runnybottom · 12/05/2010 00:41

thanks for that mystic meg. Is that the kind of shit you write in an essay?

Aitch · 12/05/2010 00:41

yes, because they stood in more constituencies, so more people had the opportunity to vote for them. they still didn't, though, and the BNP must be very disappointed their showing in this climate, with people like you spreading fear and revulsion, and with the media banging on about the immigrant threat, they really should have polled better given that there is no shortage of thick, mean people in this country.

so anyway, the number of votes divided by the number of constituencies is what's important wrt a rising party, and that number didn't rise in a meaningful fashion in the last five years. fact.

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 00:47

The BNP are disappointed, no doubt about it, but I think people voted tory to make sure they got Labour out...

Anyway, what are you doing up at 1.00am..?

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SomeGuy · 12/05/2010 00:48

to be fair 1662 votes per seat is a fair bit better than 1647 when you consider that they were standing in more seats and there must be diminishing returns the more constituencies you stand in (because they would have started with the places where they had more support).

Aitch · 12/05/2010 01:01

they're still targeting seats, someguy.

and much as i'm disinclined to chit chat with bnp trolls, daftpunk, i can say that i rarely go to sleep before 2am so this isn't at all late for me.

runnybottom · 12/05/2010 01:07

heres some more stats for you.... the alarming rise in hate crimes and violence in areas that have bnp councillors.
how do you explain it?

runnybottom · 12/05/2010 01:10

not really surprising though when so many of their candidates are convicted criminals......

Nick Griffin (candidate for Barking) convicted for incitement to racial hatred

Jason Mundy (candidate for Upper Stoke Ward, Coventry) convicted on March 8th 2010 for harassment

Edward John Sheppard (candidate for North West Coventry) convicted for wounding and possessing a firearm with intent to endanger life

David Clarke (candidate for Croydon) convicted for assault on April 28th

Ian Meller (candidate for NW Leicester) convicted in 2002 for carrying an offensive weapon with intent, at a gay rights march in Leicester

David Enderby (candidate for Winyates ward, Redditch) Found guilty of three counts of assaulting members of his estranged wife?s family.

Kevin Scott (candidate for Gateshead) Convictions for assault and using threatening words and behaviour.

to name just a few.

sarah293 · 12/05/2010 07:01

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seeker · 12/05/2010 07:14

BNP votes per seat -

1997 ; 648
2001 ; 1424
2005 ; 1647
2010 ; 1662

So despite all th publicity and campaigning leading up to the 2010 the BNP only managed to get more votes per seat than they did in 1005.

That's more votes per seat. !5 too many, I agree, but still hardly the great leap forward, is it?

How do you explain that, DP?

The other interesting thing about these figures is that there seems to be a standard number of BNP voters per seat. There were lots more BNP candidates this time, and the party got, obviously, more votes, but there only every seem to be about 1600 peaple prepared to vote for them.

TheSteelFairy2 · 12/05/2010 08:07

Did you all miss the part where she says she hopes to end up working in Local Government because quite frankly that is the part that terrified me the most on this thread.

sarah293 · 12/05/2010 08:13

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SirBoobAlot · 12/05/2010 08:24

Freedom of speech, apparently, Riven. Justine posted on the last thread. Bloody ridiculous...

SirBoobAlot · 12/05/2010 08:26

"They are rising", "Beware the person who has nothing to loose" - what are you predicting, the returns of Lord Voldemort? Get a grip.

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