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I can't tell you how much I hope the Conservatives win the election.

409 replies

AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 20:58

Just had to get that off my chest.

Please come and join me if you feel the same, and then I can stop annoying myself (and others) by hijacking the anti-Tory threads.

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lou031205 · 02/05/2010 21:50

Oh yeah. I love the thought that our tax credits will go down, our disabled daughter may suddenly and amazingly no longer be disabled, because DLA will be scrapped and the money given to Social Services, who reported her to be an 'active child who enjoys adult company'. (She has a brain malformation, epilepsy, and is starting Special School in September).

ChickensNeedOpposableThumb · 02/05/2010 21:51

OP, why do you look forward to them winning? In what way do you think things will be better?

AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 21:52

Lucky you, Barack. Not everyone is so lucky. Most people I know get a letter telling them to ring for an appointment, thus taking them off the waiting list. Trying to ring a hospital is no joke.

BertieB, you are absolutely right. I have not yet got round to saying that I apologise for having read your OP as saying something that it didn't say!

I'm hoping they win because at the moment DH and I (who earn around 40K per year - lots by many people's standards, and not much by others' standards) pay out all the time and receive nothing in return. We pay out for school fees because the local schools are rubbish; we pay tax, NI, prescription charges, etc, etc, etc, and receive nothing in return.

On top of that, I heartily detest the nanny state and everything to do with state interference in family life. DH and I know what is best for our children. We know when and how we want them to learn about sex, for example. We know what we want them to eat, and that they need to brush their teeth and walk to school. I am so utterly sick of this government telling me what to do. Even if our local schools were any good, I couldn't bear our children to go to schools where the state runs the show and decides what is best for my children. If we couldn't afford private schools (DS has a big scholarship, fortunately for us), I would home educate.

I loathe the EYFS. I loathe the way in which orthodoxy is peddled more or less from birth. Ditto ID cards. I hope a Conservative government would be less heavy handed about all this.

(I do of course realise that I will be stoned for much of this!)

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Grigsy · 02/05/2010 21:53

Well then don't!!

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Grigsy · 02/05/2010 21:54

PS - dream on!!

AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 21:55

(Oh, and another reason: if we get a hung parliament, the economy is going to go from bad to worse and, in short, interest rates are going to rocket. This means we won't be able to afford our mortgage any more. Oh goody.)

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AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 21:57

Am retiring to bed now, not ignoring you lefties.
Am in need of sweet dreams of Michael Portillo. [lewd emoticon]

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herbietea · 02/05/2010 21:57

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JackiePaper · 02/05/2010 21:57

you get nothing in return for your taxes? seriously?

So you or a member of your family have never seen an NHS GP or gone to hospital, don't benefit from your local police force, fire brigade etc. The soldiers in Afghanistan aren't fighting on your behalf. I could go on but tbh I'm too tired and sick of it all.

Takver · 02/05/2010 22:01

I guess, Antoinette, that this isn't the place or time to point out that the Conservatives introduced the National Curriculum, together with a great many other centralising measures.
I would say going on past experience that UK conservatives tend to believe in the small state only from an economic viewpoint - socially they tend to be at least as authoritarian as Labour (unfortunately).
I agree though that if they get rid of ID cards that will be one good thing.

expatinscotland · 02/05/2010 22:01

'I'm hoping they win because at the moment DH and I (who earn around 40K per year - lots by many people's standards, and not much by others' standards) pay out all the time and receive nothing in return.'

You get a peaceful society with a superb infrastructure that allows you to go outside your door without fear of getting kidnapped for ransom or sold into slavery, to log onto a computer or flip a light switch anytime you like, fly out of an airport and basically go about your business unmolested.

That we've gotten to the point where so many believe paying taxes for such things is a penalty unless they get some material reward they can hold in our hands and spend valuable energy getting worked up over what someone got that they didn't like a bunch of 5-year-olds is one serious case of fuckedupness.

expatinscotland · 02/05/2010 22:02

Snap, Jackie!

expatinscotland · 02/05/2010 22:04

Do you honestly believe you're going to 'get' more out of your taxes on £40k/annum?

Or is this just about making sure others you perceive as getting more go to the wall?

DuelingFanjo · 02/05/2010 22:06

The people who want a tory government probably won't really be effected badly by their policies, that's why they are so keen for them to win.

expatinscotland · 02/05/2010 22:07

I hope they don't use the NHS then, Dueling.

JackiePaper · 02/05/2010 22:08

Just about sums up Tory voters really. The attitude of 'I'm voting tory because they will make my life better for me.' As opposed to the majority of Labour voters who vote Labour because they believe they will make life better for the majority of people in our society.

HumphreyCobbler · 02/05/2010 22:08

well all I am hoping from the conservatives is that they make the first steps to rescue us from the appalling financial mess we are now in

that probably means they will only stay one term, as they WILL become unpopular due to cuts and economy measures, but ANY incoming government would have to do the same

I also think that a change is necessary. I voted for Labour in 97. It was time for a change then, it is time for a change now.

I also really really really dislike Gordon Brown.

HumphreyCobbler · 02/05/2010 22:11

actually I am expecting my life to get worse as I work in a public service

If Gordon Brown had stopped borrowing when we were going through a boom and saved for the bust we wouldn't be in nearly such a bad state.

Oh I forgot, he ended boom and bust

Tashtodd · 02/05/2010 22:12

I'm hoping for a Tory win Antoinette, millions of us are.

whooosh · 02/05/2010 22:13

Whichever party inherits the fiscal disaster created by the current labour government has created will be short lived.
Labour have sone some good,but the financial disaster they have created (and the longevity required to deal with it)is something we will all be paying for-for many years to come....

JackiePaper · 02/05/2010 22:18

sorry can someone explain to me how the global financial situation, in the main created by Tory voting rich bankers, is the fault of the Labour government

HumphreyCobbler · 02/05/2010 22:21

No, the global financial situation happened

we have no reserves to meet them, as Gordon Brown did not do what most chancellors would do and save some money during a boom. In fact he continued to borrow at a rate no one had ever done before.

He even sold the gold reserves. That is it, they are gone now. He sold them at a stupid time too and in a pretty stupid way.

Do you not think that our GOvernment makes any kind of difference in these matters?

ICouldHaveWrittenThis · 02/05/2010 22:22

OP - I concur!

HumphreyCobbler · 02/05/2010 22:23

sorry, I mean no reserves left to meet the global recession

JackiePaper · 02/05/2010 22:24

and I'm sure raising inheritance tax is a great way to help pay back the deficit

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