Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Politics

Anne Widdicombe Suspicious Death

1000 replies

AClassicTrenchcoat · 10/07/2026 15:36

Suspicious death, suspected murder. Think there is a press conference soon.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
14
chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Imaginary86 · 11/07/2026 08:34

I know this, it’s dreadful. But people are STILL commenting that maybe she had a fall?

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

nicepotoftea · 11/07/2026 08:44

Glowingup · 11/07/2026 08:38

It’s worth clarifying that the guardian printed a retraction after accusing her of forcing women to give birth shackled saying that they got it wrong. The policy was handcuffing until the woman was in labour and then all restraints were removed. It was also not a policy she made up - she inherited it when she became prisons minister and defended it because transport to and from hospital was not a secure environment and the policy is to secure the prisoner. Yet people are still saying she forced women to give birth when shackled.

I don’t know what the policy is these days but I would be surprised if a prisoner is allowed to go completely free to hospital just because they are pregnant.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/mar/04/the-scandal-of-women-handcuffed-while-in-labour-i-was-so-shocked-when-the-restraints-werent-removed

Apparently there a calls for an enquiry into the practice now, so it's not a problem that has been resolved.

The UK scandal of women handcuffed while in labour: ‘I was so shocked when the restraints weren’t removed’

Pregnant women prisoners in England are being handcuffed to prison officers – often male – during intimate vaginal examinations and long, agonising births. Will this dehumanising treatment be stopped?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/mar/04/the-scandal-of-women-handcuffed-while-in-labour-i-was-so-shocked-when-the-restraints-werent-removed

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/07/2026 08:45

Livelovebehappy · 11/07/2026 08:40

As i said. Of course there's stuff said on the passing of high profile people on the left but, IMO, not nearly the same level of vitriol when its comments about someone on the right who's died.

Social media has a lot to answer for. Someone was talking on R4 earlier about how if you post a picture of your breakfast on social media you can expect nobody else to care, but if you post your political views, especially if they're quite extreme, you get lots of attention and the algorithms direct more people your way. It really doesn't help. Nuance has gone out of the window. More and more younger people appear to believe that unless someone's views on every single issue are in alignment with yours the other person must be a bigot and should be shunned and mocked at every turn. There's also the problem that a great many people are now unable to read longer pieces of prose and make sense of them.

TealShark · 11/07/2026 08:45

It’s really quite normal for people to discuss a person’s legacy or other complex feelings about that person when they die. It’s tiresome seeing the policing of views and feelings here and elsewhere. Sanctimonious even.

sittingonabeach · 11/07/2026 08:45

@itchyelbowsandswollenankles what would you have wanted in respect of that case? If it was a relative of yours what would you have wanted? The photo of the mum and girls would either have been lifted from social media or given to the police/press by a relative.

There were press hanging outside their house, questioning neighbours and school friends, police cordon. What else? Police are convinced it was a domestic incident (unfortunately a too common occurrence). Most people reading the story will be saddened and angry.

There were posts on social media, on here as soon as the death of Ann was announced even before the news was changed that it was suspected murder. She was a well known personality. Some of the social media posts were horrific. I’m sure her family wish they could be left own to grieve and not have to constantly be bombarded with speculation about their death. If this was politically motivated rather than burglary gone wrong that has far greater implications than the impact on her family

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 11/07/2026 08:46

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

Is that correct? It was being reported earlier that the ambulance crew called the police.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/07/2026 08:46

EnterQueene · 11/07/2026 08:32

This is a fair assessment. I found her actions as Home Secretary abhorrent (approving handcuffing heavily pregnant prisoners to their beds) but that appeared to be largely forgotten as the media reinvented her as a harmless British eccentric. She was indeed, as another poster commented, one of those Catholics without a fibre of Christian compassion, as per Rees-Mogg & JD Vance.

And yet so many people have stories of her kindness.

I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘if someone has abhorrent views they have no compassion for anyone.’ Views whose consequences are cruel can be driven by ignorance or by kindness that is directed disproportionately to one group (like people who are anti abortion because they get emotional about tiny unborn babies but aren’t thinking about the consequences for women) or by a misplaced belief in being cruel to be kind.

It’s not the same as the people who have abhorrent views because they have no compassion for anyone, and combating the harmful views isn’t going to be done effectively by lumping everyone together. People are flawed and complex, not black and white.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/07/2026 08:47

TealShark · 11/07/2026 08:45

It’s really quite normal for people to discuss a person’s legacy or other complex feelings about that person when they die. It’s tiresome seeing the policing of views and feelings here and elsewhere. Sanctimonious even.

I will take sanctimony over shitting over somebody's murder.

Glowingup · 11/07/2026 08:47

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

Did they? Her death was announced with no mention of cause

Livelovebehappy · 11/07/2026 08:47

itchyelbowsandswollenankles · 11/07/2026 08:33

Awful isn’t it. Now she’s died we must all pretend she was a saint.

Cant see any comments on any platform suggesting shes a saint. Where have you seen that? Just people saying that its sad she has died, regardless of whether they shared her politics. Do you have a problem with that? Is it something you take with you in your personal life, that if someone you know is down on their luck and if their ideals or life opinions dont align with yours then they deserve no empathy?

Dollymylove · 11/07/2026 08:47

itchyelbowsandswollenankles · 11/07/2026 08:04

I can’t help but wonder why the poor woman who was murdered in Bedford, along with her two daughters, hasn’t received this press coverage.

Because the murder of a high profile figure always gets a lot of exposure.
The death of the woman and her daughters HAS been reported on MSM

MaturingCheeseball · 11/07/2026 08:48

I reckon if a left-wing woman died, Ding Dong The Witch is Dead would not be no.1.

I have always found very left-wing people to be sneery and hypocritical. I once worked with a woman who became a Labour MP. Boy, was she a Mean Girl. Among other things she mimicked someone’s regional accent unkindly and mocked a poc behind his back as he was a churchgoer.

Sweetsalad · 11/07/2026 08:48

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

I didn't read it like that
They just released the news of her death.
Then later we were given the additional info. I can't see any suggestion it was originally thought to be a fall?

nicepotoftea · 11/07/2026 08:49

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

I think it took them a day to make the news of the murder investigation public.

That doesn't mean that is when it started.

Daygloboo · 11/07/2026 08:49

ToohotToohotToohot · 11/07/2026 08:41

Isn't it a bit distasteful to let this thread descend into her personality and beliefs? And what you liked or disliked.

It's crass.

Have some respect for a woman who's been murdered regardless of her career or beliefs.

People are allowed to give their opinions. She certainly gave hers. She had some very nasty views and I dont see why people cant point that out. I dont want anybody to die horribly but I alao dont want people to have influence in society whose views cant be challenged, or whose views are whitewashed just because they suddenly died. And I think it's a perfectly fair point to say that there seem to be aome people who claim to be Catholic who have what seem to be extremely un-Christian views. I'm allowed to say that.

LuckyHazelFox · 11/07/2026 08:52

Daygloboo · 11/07/2026 08:49

People are allowed to give their opinions. She certainly gave hers. She had some very nasty views and I dont see why people cant point that out. I dont want anybody to die horribly but I alao dont want people to have influence in society whose views cant be challenged, or whose views are whitewashed just because they suddenly died. And I think it's a perfectly fair point to say that there seem to be aome people who claim to be Catholic who have what seem to be extremely un-Christian views. I'm allowed to say that.

I can see the aftermath of free speech advocate Charlie Kirk playing out all over again. Quite ironic given you are talking about respecting free speech.

Sweetsalad · 11/07/2026 08:53

itchyelbowsandswollenankles · 11/07/2026 08:04

I can’t help but wonder why the poor woman who was murdered in Bedford, along with her two daughters, hasn’t received this press coverage.

There has been lots of coverage about that lady and her children. They sound absolutely lovely and it is desperately sad.

There has also been coverage that the dad/ husband has now been arrested in SA.

But if I were their friends and family I wouldn't want endless media attention on it. It's an awful and horrible murder but they deserve to be remembered by their loved ones for how they lived

AW was a very prominent politician over many decades. Of course her death, and the subsequent news of the horror of it, is being widely reported

MaturingCheeseball · 11/07/2026 08:53

I saw on FB a minute ago that a man in hiking clothes arrived at her house in the middle of the night, so it sounds - if this was the murderer - that the person was known to her.

Dollymylove · 11/07/2026 08:55

MaturingCheeseball · 11/07/2026 08:48

I reckon if a left-wing woman died, Ding Dong The Witch is Dead would not be no.1.

I have always found very left-wing people to be sneery and hypocritical. I once worked with a woman who became a Labour MP. Boy, was she a Mean Girl. Among other things she mimicked someone’s regional accent unkindly and mocked a poc behind his back as he was a churchgoer.

This is so true. I have a friend of many years who is a big leftie. The vitriol she poured iut on social media when Boris was in power was unreal. Reams and reams of shit evey single day, and when Covid hit it escalated. Strangely enough only the same 2 or 3 friends ever responded to her posts. In the I was so sick of it I muted her on FB.
Oddly though, as soon as Starmer won the election I have barely heard a peep. Nothing about the fuck ups labour have caused. Not even a word about the Southport murders etc. ......I wonder why 🙄

TemperanceWest · 11/07/2026 08:58

MaturingCheeseball · 11/07/2026 08:53

I saw on FB a minute ago that a man in hiking clothes arrived at her house in the middle of the night, so it sounds - if this was the murderer - that the person was known to her.

Is that a statement from the police?

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 11/07/2026 09:00

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

Well, obviously it takes time as they have to examine the body. There will have been an investigation at the scene then an autopsy. It's not just a snap judgement.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 11/07/2026 09:02

Dollymylove · 11/07/2026 07:56

No he wasnt an asylum seeeker after all but he was still known to the authorities. They knew he was dangerous they ignored it................because of his ethnicity.
I hope they sleep well at night

The relevant point is that the police now release ethnicity details of perpetrators because idiots rioted after reading disinformation on social media.

Fiendishandfiery · 11/07/2026 09:08

chirrupybird · 11/07/2026 08:43

Well they thought it was natural causes initially (a fall or accident) so it can't have been that obvious, it took them a day to decide it was suspicious and longer to decide it was murder, they may circle back again having cleared the suspect. Very sad either way.

no they didn’t , not releasing it to the public doesn’t mean the authorities thought that, no statement was released saying such a thing.

and they obviously knew immediately, her family saying she will have spent her last moments in abject terror shows just how brutal a murder this was.

HoraceCope · 11/07/2026 09:09

i thought also it may have been an ex con with a grudge

BeardieWeirdie · 11/07/2026 09:10

ofcolitas · 10/07/2026 16:00

What an awful thing to publically announce, that she hopes her death was extremely painful. Now she's going to look absolutely heartless and vile for saying that.

He

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread