Anne Widdicombe Suspicious Death

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Suspicious death, suspected murder. Think there is a press conference soon.

They were murdered by the dh/df. Domestic violence is sadly common. One women is killed every 4 days due to dv. Do you know all their names, if not why not?

This is completely different, a murder of an ex politician where the assailant is unknown will obviously be high profile.

A forensic team can easily see the difference between a battering and falling down the stairs.

The suspect has been arrested in South Africa.

Quite. Out of all the DV cases, the pp chose that one. I'm not giving her anymore space.

Okay? Does that change how tragic and awful it is?

Please don’t. I don’t want an agitator going on at me all day!

Having read many testimonies from people who disagreed strongly with her political and religious beliefs it's striking that the opposite seems to be true. She doesn't seem to have been tribal in her personal life and was the kind of person who would go out of her way to help other people.

This is a fair assessment. I found her actions as Home Secretary abhorrent (approving handcuffing heavily pregnant prisoners to their beds) but that appeared to be largely forgotten as the media reinvented her as a harmless British eccentric. She was indeed, as another poster commented, one of those Catholics without a fibre of Christian compassion, as per Rees-Mogg & JD Vance.

It could be but it’s a very remote location and usually opportunistic burglars look for something that’s easy to burgle and easy to get away from. So while it could be a burglary I suspect it was by someone who Ann knew or at least recognised and that’s why they killed her. Otherwise it would be strange that they chose only her remote house (there’s a few other quite expensive big houses nearby). It also seems to have happened on late Wednesday morning (she was on radio in the morning then by the afternoon stopped responding to messages from channel 5) which is an odd time for a burglary (again unless it was someone she knew who thought she’d be out at the time).

You sound quite under developed and silly. People die every day. It’s sad ad tragic for anyone to die. The public cares more when a famous person dies than an unknown member of public. Is that obvious and simple enough for you to understand?

I just think it’s disgraceful that the news coverage is so different.

Awful isn’t it. Now she’s died we must all pretend she was a saint.

This is not a left-wing, right-wing issue. The divide here is between people with common decency and those without it. You're not going to tell me that if Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbott or any other noted left-wing UK politician died tomorrow there wouldn't be equally vile reactions from right-wingers, surely?

I know this, it’s dreadful. But people are STILL commenting that maybe she had a fall?

Not one commentator on tv or posters on here have suggested she was a saint, rather she had her opinions and views but she was happy to debate and always did so politely.

Those spewing bile should look in the mirror at who is 'filled with hate'. It certainly wasn't Ann Widdecombe.

She helped other novice ministers. A political powerhouse, like Mo Mowlam was Ann.

It’s worth clarifying that the guardian printed a retraction after accusing her of forcing women to give birth shackled saying that they got it wrong. The policy was handcuffing until the woman was in labour and then all restraints were removed. It was also not a policy she made up - she inherited it when she became prisons minister and defended it because transport to and from hospital was not a secure environment and the policy is to secure the prisoner. Yet people are still saying she forced women to give birth when shackled.

I don’t know what the policy is these days but I would be surprised if a prisoner is allowed to go completely free to hospital just because they are pregnant.

At this point we don't know that she was murdered, let alone whether a man was responsible.

I think both are ridiculous people, bit if they were murdered I'd be equally as horrified.

Yes. Agree. Her views were vile in some instances.and I noticed a few times in interviews that she hated being wrong and got very nasty and personal when her arguments were put to the test by other clever debaters. I also disliked the way she was reinvented as a loveable old eccentric. Nobody wants anybody to die horribly, bit I dont like history being re- written either.

Oh FGS.

It's been announced based on forensic evidence that it was murder.

Until evidenced otherwise I’d assume there are a lot of bots and a fewcpeople who want to see social divisions, whipping this horrible situation up wherever they can

As i said. Of course there's stuff said on the passing of high profile people on the left but, IMO, not nearly the same level of vitriol when its comments about someone on the right who's died.

That would make sense. It was very odd, the announcement in the morning, tributes paid (and some very nasty responses), then the further information in the afternoon, leading some of the nasty people to wake up belatedly to how their remarks looked in the light of the news that it was murder. When a well-known person dies, it's not possible to keep it quiet, I suppose.

Isn't it a bit distasteful to let this thread descend into her personality and beliefs? And what you liked or disliked.

It's crass.

Have some respect for a woman who's been murdered regardless of her career or beliefs.