Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

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Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

That's what the victims were promised, they've all said so. It probably came from the home office because Andy Burnham wrote to Priti Patel about it.
https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/news/mayor-and-deputy-mayor-of-greater-manchester-call-for-rochdale-grooming-gang-deportations-to-be-complete/

It’s not going to work here.

I recall the London mayor explained how communities need to live near their shops, places of worship, schools.

People tend to stick to what’s familiar, even after having moved for a better life.

So did Patel agree to it or was it just a request from Burnham?

Sorry I don't know.

It appears that Patel made that promise but then discovered it was impossible.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-61970644?app-referrer=deep-link

British policing, social work, schools and politicians all reinforced the idea that these girls were worthless and unimportant. That was British culture at the time. The police even prosecuted some of the girls for soliciting before sending them back to be abused. Many of the customers were white.

That was normal British culture he grew up with - authorities who ignored what was going on or even participated in it so long as the girls were of a class or category which didn’t matter to those in authority. Social workers and police routinely described the men keeping the girls out of school as “boyfriends”, despite the men being much older and the girls under age.

Mirpuri girls were also victims, whatever the resident naysayers keep repeating. Grooming gangs are part of organised crime - their race/cultural characteristics will be whichever group is organising large scale crime in the area. PP is correct - they are overlooked partly because they are even more fearful of coming forward than the white girls. In Rochdale and some other areas its Muslim men, in other areas its East Europeans, the long established local white crime family, sectarian white groups - the targets are always the more vulnerable girls in the area or trafficked in from other areas.

This man was born in '53, came to the UK in the 60s when he was under age - mid teens roughly according to one of the Beeb reports. He was enabled by successive British authorities. I see no reason why Pakistani women should be subject to him just because he was born there.

His immediate family will have had an influence. Plus a community if it was closed off.

Fellow pakistani
Giving my view, most poeple i know loathe these men and want the goverment to throw away the bloody key. And it isnt just white girls its also pakistani girls however in the 90s alot of pakistani families were stricter so opportunity was limited, ie staying out late and weekend we had stricter curfews- they were still targeted.
Also chemical castration and much longer than 20 years.
The issue with Pakistan is the right money and the right contacts could give him an easy life. However if he commited this crime in pakistan AND became an example the sentence would be much harsher and no human rights for monsters like this.

Alot of pakistani communitys breathed a sigh of relief when these men got locked up.
Me personally i think the family members covering for them and complicit should have been locked up as well, thats one way to hit them were it hurts.

Me personally im happy for the government to throw some money towards Pakistan to take them.

But all within a culture which held that some girls didn’t matter and could be abused with impunity.

The traffickers in white, black, brown gangs of all and every culture and ethnicity also grew up in families and a community. There is no culture which is immune to this problem of organised crime and specifically organised sex trafficking. Well no culture which includes men.

That proves it is not easy to just change laws as the Telegraph is suggesting.

I think they deserve that but would never want a return to the death penalty. I think they should be locked up. If you're that much of a risk you should never see freedom

I don't think prisons should promote diversity either , they should be no islam or any other religions other than christianity in our jails. No segregation at all.

Exactly.

Yes!

Of course it won't, we're far too late. That boat sailed a long time ago.

I find it upsetting that this country is seen as a soft target for sexual assaults. It has sometimes been used as an excuse by someone from a 'stricter' country when they have assaulted UK citizens.

The Ethiopian sex offender, in Epping, said that he did not think it was so strict here which is obviously appalling when there was a girl in school uniform, but I have heard and witnessed this sort of thing myself. It would be good if there was basic instruction given to everyone who comes here regarding the fact that women are equal citizens, etc.

We shouldn't be giving salvation/ home to people who need to be instructed not to rape.

We do not know who will act like this and sometimes there have been men on a temporary basis who have done this. For example, another nation's military cadets thought it was ok to sexually assault here.

That doesn't excuse it or make it ok.

We shouldn't be allowing anyone into the country who needs to be "instructed" not to rape. The wellbeing of the women and some men who are already here must come before the wellbeing of anybody from another country.

How do you know who needs these i'nstructions' and who doesn't?

Blanket ban for all men?

This! If I mugged someone in Spain or Japan or Egypt I’d expect to be arrested, any visa or citizenship revoked immediately, prison followed by deportation followed by a permanent ban to Spain, Japan or Egypt. In fact if other countries banned me to I would think it’s fair enough.

We have enough criminals in the UK - if we deport everyone (criminal) who has a second passport or was originally from another country we will have plenty of space to keep other prisoners locked up and off the streets for longer. At present this useless government is releasing rapists early putting women and girls at risk.

The "instructed" comment is in regards to an earlier post made by someone else.

In addition, yes I would prioritise women and children ahead of men.

If they are unable to properly vet the men then yes I’d ban the men.

Germany, The USA and Aus and Japan presumably have good record keeping and are low on the government official corruption index that is available on line. So I presume their data will be accurate.

Some countries may want to get rid of their criminals - maybe they pay gangs to bring them here? We are soft on rape.

Men are crafty when it comes to finding ways to commit sex crimes - surely it’s not a stretch to think men are coming to the U.K. to commit sex crimes. Most will get away with it and the others get a short sentence and the right to remain.

Here’s the index. If the officials are corrupt then yes I’d ban the men. How can you rely on the data from a country with corrupt officials?

www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025

What we can do is send a rocket up the arse of the judiciary.
Out of touch judges.
Why were the sentences running concurrently?
Absolutely unacceptable.

I have so much respect for Maggie Oliver who has had the energy and tenacity to keep trying to drive change and challenge a system that moves at glacial speed, dominated by old duffer Oxbridge men who are more interested in theoretical arguments than the reality of what these monstrous men have inflicted on innocent young women.

And yes, men like Kier Starmer who are oh so decent and yet have effected little or no change.
The buck has to stop with someone.

No doubt, taxpayers are footing the bill for some kind of protection for this human piece of shit while the women who were abused are expected to just get on with it.