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So who are you rootin' for at Makersfield?

118 replies

NEGUY82 · Yesterday 16:45

Just wondering who everyone hopes will win??

I'm hoping for a Burnham win but as long as it's not Kenyon I can live with it.

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BIossomtoes · Today 08:34

Inflation was 11% in October 2022 and the UK was in recession for the last two quarters of 2023. 🤷‍♀️

Watdidyousay · Today 08:49

Squirrel001 · Today 06:22

I genuinely have no idea how Labour attract a single vote. It is so depressing.

I think some vote Labour because it is what they have always done.

Paravion011 · Today 08:49

TallSturdyGirls · Today 07:31

So what have they done so bad in that time? I mean, it's not much time to fix all the fuck ups, and they have made some massive errors. But nothing on the scale of the tories. Truss managed to destroy the economy in 49 days

Truss destroyed the economy in 49 days?

No, Truss caused a spike in gilt yields - which quickly returned to norms.

Yields are now trading higher than the Truss period.

Watdidyousay · Today 08:50

Paravion011 · Today 08:49

Truss destroyed the economy in 49 days?

No, Truss caused a spike in gilt yields - which quickly returned to norms.

Yields are now trading higher than the Truss period.

Indeed..funny how labour luvvies ignore that!

Paravion011 · Today 08:51

Watdidyousay · Today 08:50

Indeed..funny how labour luvvies ignore that!

Many lack a material understanding of finance and markets - much like their government….

Nuthatch26 · Today 08:53

BIossomtoes · Today 08:34

Inflation was 11% in October 2022 and the UK was in recession for the last two quarters of 2023. 🤷‍♀️

After the invasion of Ukraine. It was then back at 2% in summer 2024.
What is Labour's excuse for 3.8% in July 2025?

Watdidyousay · Today 08:56

BIossomtoes · Today 08:34

Inflation was 11% in October 2022 and the UK was in recession for the last two quarters of 2023. 🤷‍♀️

Can you make an argument for Labour without resorting to going back over the last "14 years"?

Northermcharn · Today 09:00

Watdidyousay · Today 08:49

I think some vote Labour because it is what they have always done.

Yes. And it's what their parents did, and their grand parents etc. Sadly not willing to recognise that the labour party of today bears very little resemblance to the labour party of then. And indeed - the UK bears little resemblance to the way it was then too. Labour Blair's open door policy and Iraq war support is much to blame for this. Which means the UK requires a very different governing system e.g. the NHS was fit for purpose, benefits were a good idea as a safety net etc. Now? Labour have ensured it's not working today.

Northermcharn · Today 09:01

Watdidyousay · Today 08:56

Can you make an argument for Labour without resorting to going back over the last "14 years"?

Ha ha no. As per taxation, blaming the last gvt is in their DNA.

EasternStandard · Today 09:06

Watdidyousay · Today 08:49

I think some vote Labour because it is what they have always done.

True to both you and @Squirrel001

Paravion011 · Today 09:08

Watdidyousay · Today 08:56

Can you make an argument for Labour without resorting to going back over the last "14 years"?

Also funny how Starmer never qualified his manifesto promises with ‘despite the prior 14 years of Conservative rule’ etc.

Who could forget the old ‘black hole’ when Labour entered government.

Paravion011 · Today 09:10

Watdidyousay · Today 08:56

Can you make an argument for Labour without resorting to going back over the last "14 years"?

The Labour-apologists will now either fall silent, or call for reinforcements.
It’s what they always do when in receipt of a right proper hiding.

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:25

Nuthatch26 · Today 08:29

A lot of what you have listed is lies told by Labour in order to win the election.
This thread isn't about the previous govt, and I don't want to derail, but you should fact check rather than just accept Labour soundbites. Labour are not building more houses to give you one example, and NHS spending continued to rise throughout austerity. I don't believe this Labour govt would have been any better economically through the pandemic, and they have quietly written off a few billion they promised to recover from covid loan fraud.

WFA, employer NI, farmers tax, PS Vat, Chagos, inflation going from 2% to 3.8% within their first year, rising unemployment - particularly for young people, rising welfare spending, scrapping the two child cap, - examples of why Labour became so unpopular in record time. Much of it wasn't in their manifesto either. Then we had the Mandelson stuff.

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Its not lies Ive worked in lots of public and private sector jobs and have seen the effect to the tory government firsthand.

Prove one bit of what I said that is a lie.

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:27

Watdidyousay · Today 08:56

Can you make an argument for Labour without resorting to going back over the last "14 years"?

Are you really naive enough to think that things can be turned around in two years? I don't love the labour government and I don't always vote for them
But surely anybody with any comprehension understands that 14 years of mismanagement is hard to rectify.

Nuthatch26 · Today 10:31

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:25

Its not lies Ive worked in lots of public and private sector jobs and have seen the effect to the tory government firsthand.

Prove one bit of what I said that is a lie.

A lot of it was lies. I gave you two examples (housing and NHS funding) in my pp.
Why do you think Labour's popularity fell off a cliff so quickly after the election? Is that the fault of the tories too? Its easier for Labour to blame the tories for their own ineptitude.

EasternStandard · Today 10:33

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:27

Are you really naive enough to think that things can be turned around in two years? I don't love the labour government and I don't always vote for them
But surely anybody with any comprehension understands that 14 years of mismanagement is hard to rectify.

They’re not getting close, and have accelerated to where the last gov were in two years - ousting a leader.

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:34

EasternStandard · Today 10:33

They’re not getting close, and have accelerated to where the last gov were in two years - ousting a leader.

It isn't great I agree!

Watdidyousay · Today 11:02

TallSturdyGirls · Today 10:27

Are you really naive enough to think that things can be turned around in two years? I don't love the labour government and I don't always vote for them
But surely anybody with any comprehension understands that 14 years of mismanagement is hard to rectify.

I think they could have made a start

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