Would you vote for Angela Rayner?

[WildEnergySupplier]

Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

No they don’t - I think we are being factual - has anyone in all honesty ever heard her make a great speech because I haven’t - the fact she’s female and northern isn’t enough - so is Brigitte Phillipson but because she isn’t loud mouthed or left wing or get pregnant at 16 she doesn’t get the attention someone like Rayner does.

Starmer to remain as PM and avoid the same situation of revolving doors that we had with the Conservatives. 'Hey guys, we don't like our current leader so lets upend everything and find a new one Sod the country.'

But she is thick.

Yes. No one will be able to solve many of the problems. We need continuity.

That's not how the system works. We vote for our MPs at a General Election. The party with the most MPs forms the government. The leader of that party becomes the Prime Minister. We don't vote directly for the PM because we're not choosing a President or a Head of State.
So every Prime Minister has been elected, by their constituents. The party choose the leader.

I would agree we need these sorts of people as advisersa nd in the cabinet. I would equally say we need more people in government who really understand what it's like to live a different life. The people that govern us do not represent us. So many of them went to private school and Oxbridge. They view us as scum. Particularly the likes of Johnson, Cameron and Farage.
I like leaders with guts and gumption, that have been created, not through privilege and wealth, and that awful public school boy entitlement.

Yeah I know what you mean and that’s why I’ve never voted for the women candidates before — I didn’t think they were as good. But I’m kinda done now. It’s not like Starmer has turned out to be any good, and I voted for him! And we need to get past Labour leaders being judged ‘as women’ and just judged as leaders — which every other longstanding political party in the UK has achieved.

Absolutely not. No way. Never. Same response for Nigel Farage tho.

I reject calling anyone scum - but those are just my values.

I actually wonder if at times she cultivates her accent, to be a little heavier, to appeal more to her core voters.

It's a common theme with Labour- bang on about your impoverished childhood or lack of central heating (hello Brigit) and you'll be voted in.

@WildEnergySupplier I think you should call a spade a spade - I’m not into box ticking exercises ( ooh we’ve never had a female leader) or picking someone because you think she would be soft as shit on some people who take the piss. If you want a female leader you had your chance and Yvette cooper was very suitable - she’s Northern and no she doesn’t sound dim- I’m amazed Rayner got as far as she did

I agree. I tend to think it's people either misunderstanding how our present system works, or those who want a personality with soundbites as opposed to someone who can work effectively to build partnerships for the UK and focus on what is needed, rather than performing on a zip wire.

What about that story she proudly told about how she found and opened a bottle of expensive whisky in Kiers house whilst he was out of the room. She thought it was hilarious that it was a present, from a dead friend of his and Kier was upset about it.
Who the fuck rifles through people belongings and opens a bottle of expensive alcohol? She was actually bragging about this.
She cannot represent our country, she had a nerve calling anyone else ‘scum’ after that hilarious anecdote.
What a twat.

Yeah why not. She's totally credible

She is thick. Are we supposed to ignore that?

She's crafty though, in the way that thick people often are.

No. She has a lot of good qualities, but she is simply not PM material. In fact, none of the suggested candidates are. None of them stand a cat's chance in hell of winning the next election. They should really stop pandering to the media and get on with their jobs.

This has come about because of the results of local elections.

I think a GE is the way forwards in situations like this, not a change of leader.

Clever but not intelligent. To be a credible PM you need to be intelligent.

Name one good quality.

(Other than trying to wriggle out of paying tax.)

and imagine what she could achieve.

I am imagining just that, and that's why my answer to your question is "fuck, no".

YES!

Sure that is the case BUT people do look at the leaders and decide whether they like them or not. It does have a bearing on some people's votes.
If Keir loses the forthcoming leadership battle I personally would want a general election to follow (I know this can't happen) as the Labour Party manifesto I voted for last time would no doubt no longer remain the same, especially if a Labour Leftie like Rayner were to win the leadership.

Not a chance. I’ve been a labour voter all my life, but on this showing, never again, regardless of who is in charge.

I am a former Labour voter and her being Leader would keep me away not tempt me back.

No. Wes or Andy B, yes.