Would you vote for Angela Rayner?

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Sounds like she's throwing her hat in the ring.

She says she's paid off the tax she owes and is no longer under investigation.

This apparently means she's free to run - and is going to.

I agree with the Labour Party’s despicable attitude to women, but many good women have been historically overlooked and along comes Angela Rayner and that’s our woman. We should do better.

I mean I would vote for competent women. I would vote for Kemi for example or if I were to vote in the US - I would have voted for Hillary and Kamala. I won't vote for the totally incompetent women in the Labour party like Angela or Diane Abbott.

A GE now would probably result in a hung Parliament. We need neither a new PM nor a GE. We need stability with a capital S.

No.

You're right, it does absolutely have a bearing. I'm just commenting on the "unelected PM" comment, which sometimes happens on here, perhaps if people aren't familiar with the UK system.
I'm a lifelong Labour member and voter, but couldn't do so during Corbyn's leadership. I really hated that period.

Would I vote for an (ex) Housing Secretary who introduces taxes and policies that reduce, limit and undermine ordinary people’s ability to own a home or achieve long-term security over the roof above their heads, whilst simultaneously promoting socialist policies that place the financial burden of poor leadership and damaging economic decisions onto those same people?
All while reportedly using loopholes or technicalities to minimise their own tax exposure to the very system they advocate for others.

And apparently being wealthy enough to pass assets and property to their own children, whilst ordinary people who want to help their children onto the housing ladder are increasingly shamed for doing so, because suddenly inheritance and intergenerational support are treated as morally wrong.

I mean… sign me up.

Just another political grifter: criticising capitalism publicly whilst privately benefiting from the same asset growth, tax structures and property advantages they seek to restrict for ordinary people..

She strikes me as a grifter. I also thinks she lacks the critical thinking and strong education you would need to understand the complexities you would be dealing with day in, day out.
She is also too idealistic and divisive. Her approach to the economy would be terrifying.

I think with need a pragmatist. A leader with intellect and integrity occupying the centre ground. A leader making decisions based on what is right for the long term future of the country, rather than appeasing backbenchers/donors. BUT that’s wishful thinking.

No, not in a thousand years.

1. Burnham
2. Streeting
3. Miliband
4. Starmer
5. Rayner

But (in my case) I have previously voted for incompetent men to lead Labour, so it’s not such a bar 😂

There just isn’t a slam-dunk candidate. Wes is a good communicator and I really liked the way he handled changing his mind on the gender/sex stuff, but I have absolutely no idea what he would do differently from Keir. Burnham has always been a lightweight IMO. I like Miliband but the electorate hates him. All of these people would probably lose the next election unless they pull off something extraordinary.

Might as well vote with my sex for once.

I don’t personally agree with calling people ‘scum’ myself either and I wouldn’t do that myself. I said it would probably prove popular with a lot of the British people. Especially considering how Trump would be likely to speak about Rayner.

Edited because I misread.

Absolutely not.

And to those saying people are being snobbish.

No. I think you will find it’s actually the poor folk who cannot believe what Rayners grifting is like.

God NO!

I look back at the high intellect of some leaders there have been worldwide, over time. And.. uhm .. well... Angela is not ever going to be on that list. She's done her best. As Meghan Markle is to the Hollywood A list, so Angela Rayner is to the high intellect political leader list. Yes she's scrambled up that dodgy splinter-filled ladder, but there's not much to keep her where she is. Well if Labour loons from the unions support her as leader as they did big stones Ed, we could be stuck with her for 3 years I suppose. 😑

No. Never.

I quite like Streeting.

But this jostling for position doesn't do the party itself any favours. Makes them all look like mercenary power-hungry con artists.

The public are tolerating Starmer. Unsure they'd tolerate a new PM without an election.

Now, there's a thought ...

I agree. The local elections have been disastrous for Labour, but a change of leader now is a bad idea.

I cannot bear people saying she’s “unqualified”. Do they not understand how democracy works? The whole point is that any one of us can be elected by our peers.

More to the point she’s shown so much grit and determination to turn her own life around and to make change for herself and others that I trust her in difficult times above most of the highly educated arseholes working in Westminster - all of whom are detached and insulated from the consequences of their decision making in a way that she is not. I also think she would actually heed the advice of her countless advisors. She’s not doing any of this solo - and she doesn’t pretend to, unlike all the men around her.

Nevertheless, when the change happens it will be another “highly qualified” man. Repeat disaster ad nauseam.

I despair. We have waited so long for a female to lead the Labour Party, and there have been so many amazing competent women who could have and should have been leaders but never got the chance because of male entitlement, and now look, we have the chance for a female leader and it is blumming Angela. Why oh Why? We will never get another one if she is chosen because she will be the Labour Party’s Liz Truss.

Honestly, you are wasting your breath. Certain posters hate her and tear her to bits at every chance they get. I suspect at least one of the biggest haters is a man.

I love your user name btw. Such a great song.

The 'scum' comment was enough for me.

A PM who'd used language like that for people would be dangerous ground.

Miliband ! I hope you mean David and not Ed.

The public are not tolerating Starmer - look at the local election results!

It’s both true that a leadership contest is the last thing Labour needs and also perhaps the only thing that could now save us from PM Nigel Farage.

Whether she is male or female is irrelevant as to whether people think she is thick or not.

Equally I described Yvette Cooper as the cleverest potential candidate which again has nothing to do with her being female. Or is this equally depressing?

Have you been living in a bunker? Ed is a potential candidate