Is Matt Goodwin correct about this?

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Is professor Matthew Goodwin right that that middle-class leftists are so angry at Brexit, because it is the first time they have lost a major thing and it infuriates then to see the working class get one over on them?

If you read the news then you know that Gaza didn't feature much.

If you say so.

Kind of a strange statement. If middle
class leftists are really a thing they’ve lost almost every election in the last 100 years, so I’m not sure the argument that this is the first major loss holds water. I‘m also unconvinced that ‘the left’ as a rump, or the middle class, were really anti Brexit. The biggest predictor of support for Brexit was actually level of education, followed by age.

Matt Goodwin is not a professor any more btw. It’s a job title and I believe he took voluntary redundancy.

Level of education is tied into age as 10% of school leavers went to uni in the early 90s compared to over 50% in 2016.

Yes. I think the data is actually qualifications, rather than education because of that implication. So the best predictor of which was someone voted on Brexit is their level of qualification, followed by age.

Before David Shipley was a right wing shill, he lied about his income and forged documents to obtain large business loans. I’m not saying people can’t change, but I’d be reluctant to take lessons from him on whether people are entitled to things they otherwise couldn’t afford.

Exactly. It also has a mission to create access to green space, so it’s very logical that they’ve made it more accessible to people on low incomes.

What is a "right wing shill" ?

Do you think he has fiddled the figures in the article?

I’ve no idea if the prices he quotes are correct. All of the attractions he mentions are entitled to set their own entry fees. I can’t imagine being so bitter that I’d get worked up about people getting discounts at places I’m not planning to go.

Is this ‘Even retired public sector workers benefit, with those pensioners who once worked as teachers, police officers, social workers or in the NHS being entitled to the same discounts’ really something to get upset about?

This binary division of ‘middle class lefties’ and ‘the working class’ driven by grifters like Goodwin, Farage, Tice who are cosplaying at being serious politicians (as if they’re the true voice of the working class - laughable!) is such a fallacy. Many now middle class lefties ARE from Brexit-voting working class communities and are still very much entwined with them through family, friends, work, etc. I think most people are frustrated by Brexit because of the huge impact it has had on our economy, trade, travel, etc., aren’t they? Reform seem locked in a bubble of ideological warfare, which is basically all they seem to have, but it’s the reality of Brexit (which many predicted) that people are angry about.

Hasn’t Goodwin just been discovered to have used AI-assists and fake-quotes in his ‘academic’ work? Looking forward to living in a world where propaganda loss-making channels like GB News and the charlatans they platform are given more scrutiny and less credibility.

That's interesting about Goodwin. Perhaps he will.be stripped of his PhD.

Unfortunately PhDs don’t work like that.

I don’t think his PhD is in question (and I don’t think he was quite so eager to pursue a right wing narrative then). I know a lot of MNers love the Spectator but I don’t have a subscription so maybe they could give us their verdict: https://spectator.com/article/did-matthew-goodwin-use-ai-to-write-his-book/

https://archive.ph/gUPNF

Here you go.

Thanks - it doesn’t work for me for some reason.

The Spectator does point out MGs book is an attempt to cover similar ground to Douglas Murray's far superior The Strange Death of Europe. Which I have read. Now that is a fine book (as you would expect).

Chat GPT is very unsubtle. Hes a twit if he used it.

He did use it.

But we can see, at the very least, that ChatGPT helped with parts of his book, because he left the ChatGPT URL in some of the few references used to justify his arguments.

Much of his analysis appears to refer to events, places and people which do not exist – another indication that a writer has relied on large-language models (LLMs), which frequently ‘hallucinate’ facts.

MattGPT

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No. HTH.