How can people vote Green?

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The Greens are no longer the ecology party. They have been taken over by people who want to leave NATO, legalise drugs and don’t recognise women. I understand the attraction of a far left party but surely the original Greens don’t agree with all this.
Plus they expel people for refusing to recognise some members as fairies?
https://labourheartlands.com/the-green-partys-war-on-reality/

Yes Polanski has been clear. Votes that go to Greens will reinforce that take.

Exactly this. They are not hiding their plans, so any votes they get support that stance and quite clearly speak to the rights of men over women.

Reframe your trauma bloke is even standing as one of them

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He's gonna be busy standing for two political parties then.

No, it's just the one he's standing for - unless something has changed in the last day or two.

Indeed, and not the one you are talking about in your post.

This is an interesting explanation of why:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdg7r8de2lo?app-referrer=deep-link#:~:text=The%20backlog%20has%20been%20caused%20by%20a,for%20two%20months%20during%20the%20first%20lockdown.

It’s because they are the only party willing to address inequality. People are struggling. Particularly the young.

‘Then the Covid pandemic happened, which left all Crown Courts closed for two months during the first lockdown other than for urgent and essential work. When they reopened, many individual courtrooms could not be used for trials because they were too small to comply with social distancing requirements. Everything slowed to a snail's pace and the backlog exploded.’

I did jury service as we came out of the pandemic and jury trials were back on, the people I chatted to had been stuck on cases for months rather than the projected few weeks because illness kept stopping the case.

I remembering thinking multiply that across all courts. Plus the judge did a speech on never stopping jury trials, it was quite moving, I bet he has strong views on what’s being proposed by Labour.

I'm talking about the Scottish Green party (that shares the same views as the wider Green party on the issue of men's rights) - the one he's standing for this year.

They don't need to publish their manifesto - Polanski is on record (many times) saying exactly what the Greens think of the current situation re men in women's space and how they will continue to push for that. Their views on the SC judgement are clear, and they continue to sau that Labour and tge Tories haven't done nearly enough to promote the rights of men to be in women's spaces. They aren't hiding them, and so as things currently stand the question is - why would anyone who values the rights of women even entertain this party. They have shown us all exactly what they think. Reframe your trauma bloke is even standing as one of them

Zack Polanski of the Scottish Greens?

What are you talking about?

Ah thank you for that, yes very interesting and obvious.

At the last election the Green Party had £170 billion of unfunded policies (in second place was Reform with £90 billion of unfunded policies).

Both parties peddle unachievable populist policies that can never be delivered without blowing up the economy.

https://spectator.com/article/zack-polanksis-insane-economics/

Yes, it's very easy to address inequality by throwing money at it until you actually have to do it and realise you can't because ' printing more money' and 'debt doesn't really exist' have consequences that make everyone much poorer ( see every country that has ever tried it)

Kemi, bolshie? Well, us commies can only hope!

They are not far left....barely even left but getting popular as a result of an actor playing a good part to attract votes of people not looking too deeply at who they are.

I will vote for them if it means keeping Reform out. That’s my key motivation.

So let's get this right you want to vote for an Islamo leftist party that has a worrying undercurrent of anti semitism and racism (anti Indians) and massively unfunded policies that will damage the economy in order to prevent Reform getting any power, a party many perceive (including myself) as having a worrying undercurrent of Islamophobia and racism (anti Muslim) and massively unfunded policies that will damage the economy.

Before voting for the Greens remember that their economic policy and spending plans are based on just printing more money. If you think that is a genius and rational economic solution then vote Green.

If not then maybe look at the more centrist parties rather than voting for one extreme in order to block another extreme.

I’d vote for any party that would keep Reform out. It’s my key motivation too.

Even if they have a strong element of anti semitism and anti Indian within the party?

Seems like you want to vote for one lot of unpleasant nasty extremists in order to stop another lot of unpleasant nasty extremists getting any power...

Seems to me you really don’t understand. There is zero prospect of a Green government, the best they can hope for is an increase in seats and the ability to influence policy. Frankly I’m tired of any party leaning left being accused of anti semitism and disregard for women’s rights when the right wing equivalent is the epitome of racism and would take women’s rights back to the 50s.

Why are you tired of that? Don’t you care about the left’s racism?

Of course the left isn’t the seat of all racism. The right has its own shame. But if you cared at all about Jew-hate you’d condemn the left, just as decent right voters would condemn the same from the obnoxious far right.

The problem is they are both extremes. An added problem is that the Greens have decided that fundamentalist/ hardline Islam is compatible with their ideals, based purely on Gaza it seems. But they are religiously based Right Wing, and would likely, if they were to be able to take influence policy making, influence it along religious lines, that never work out well for women. Reform may try and pretend they care about Christian fundamentalism but that will not fly amongst even the Christian community- a large number of whom are Black, Asian, Eastern European and South American.

But that is the difference in our views. I can objectively see the dangers of anti semitism and racism within the Green Party and also see the dangers of racism and Islamophobia within the Reform Party.

I can also see that in terms of unfunded policies that the Greens are at £170 billion and Reform are at £90 billion meaning that neither are economically credible.

Based on polling figures neither the Green Party or Reform are anywhere likely to be elected as a majority Government. However they are more likely to be involved in a coalition government whether that be Labour/ Green or Conservative/ Reform. This means that both are dangerous in terms of influence in any future Government.

Finally I just can't take the Green Party's economic policy seriously where they refute the entire concept of Government debt and their "genius " solution for funding under "Modern Monetary Theory " is to simply print money - I mean what could possibly go wrong?