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The Green Menace

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WiseHare · 02/03/2026 06:48

The Daily Mail's Investigations Unit, a crack team of 'journalists' who once spent three weeks proving that a Labour councillor's dog had looked at a Palestinian flag, has uncovered the truth: the Green Party is not, as previously believed, a collection of people who think buses should run on time and perhaps we shouldn't boil the ocean. No. They are "the Green Menace".

Not since the Turnip Winter of 1916 has Britain faced such an existential threat from produce. Consider the evidence:

Exhibit A: The Suspicious Houseplant
You bought it from Ikea. You named it Trevor. It has since grown three inches and now occupies a position from which it can observe your television. Coincidence? The Mail Investigations Unit would like a word with Trevor. And also with you, for harbouring him.

Exhibit B: The Hedge
Your neighbour's privet hedge has been getting ideas. It used to know its place. Now it's encroaching.. creeping, one might say. The word "lebensraum" has not been used, but only because hedges lack the vocal apparatus.

Exhibit C: That Weird Moss Situation Around Your Car Windows
A clear radicalisation pipeline..first the moss, then the lichen, then, before you know it, your Vauxhall is attending conferences and voting on motions about international law. You'll try to start the engine and it will simply quote Frantz Fanon at you.

The motion in question, for those who wandered past the headline into the actual words, concerns whether one particular nationalism should be treated as any other nationalism. This is, apparently, indistinguishable from "backing Hamas terror attacks" in the same way that noting Tuesdays exist makes you personally responsible for everything that has ever happened on a Tuesday.

But nuance is not the Mail's concern. Nuance is, itself, a kind of moss. It gets into the cracks and makes things complicated. Far better to print THE GREEN MENACE in a font size usually reserved for declarations of war and royal deaths, and let the reader's amygdala do the rest.

The Green Party may or may not pass this motion and it may or may not become policy. The specific wording concerns legal and political concepts that reasonable people can and do disagree about, thoughtfully and in good faith.
But that's not a headline, is it?

THE GREEN MENACE is a headline. THE GREEN MENACE shifts units. THE GREEN MENACE means your nan will ring you worried about Zack Polanski, who she's fairly certain was in that film with the computers, and why does he have a megaphone, and should she stop buying broccoli just to be safe.

The moss, meanwhile, continues its advance. It asks for nothing, explains nothing.
It simply grows, slowly, around the edges of things, while Britain's press furiously investigates whether photosynthesis is woke.


N.B: No vegetables were harmed in the writing of this piece, though several were looked at with deep suspicion.

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WarriorN · 02/03/2026 10:33

SionnachRuadh · 02/03/2026 10:15

Tbh Harry and Paul nailed this years ago

🤣

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 10:34

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/03/2026 10:14

I see the new OP has reached the point of "the toxic environment of your echo-chamber"

Where have we heard that before? 🤔😄

Edited

Well, funnily, several posters have attempted to open discussions, but the OP seems to be rather too invested in denigrating the women pointing out that the opening post was a fail then to discuss.

But good to note again the DARVO tactics of calling a thread an echo chamber while posts encouraging discussion are ignored, and the OP spends considerable effort denigrating the other posters to get them to STFU and make them feel shamed for pointing out the OP's deficiencies.

Accusations such as "the toxic environment of your echo-chamber" seems like more projection from the one who posted it to me.

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 10:45

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/03/2026 10:14

I see the new OP has reached the point of "the toxic environment of your echo-chamber"

Where have we heard that before? 🤔😄

Edited

It does feel like the usual.

The Green Menace
MonstrousRegimentRocks · 02/03/2026 10:47

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 10:45

It does feel like the usual.

😂😂

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 11:11

fromorbit · 02/03/2026 09:58

Good to have this thread debate is essential.

As others have pointed out though.

We already have a longstanding thread about the Green Menace. ATM we are talking about the latest round of rape denial in the Greens.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?page=18

NB no-one is saying there are not sexist dangers in other parties. The issue is we all can call the stuff out in them. No other political party is kicking women out for saying they exist. The problem with the Greens is they pretend they are not going to do evil stuff and they get horrified when you point it out. It is the same problem all over again.

Remember when you could get in trouble for saying the church was harbouring abusers.

Sorry to be boring, but we are going to point out the "nice" lefty men who are abusive sex pests and women who shield them. Because even though it is been going on for ever people keep getting taken by surprise by it.

The abusers keep moving they change names, but the behaviour is always the same.

Also remember this is not the USA - Republicans and Democrats both harbour abusers at the highest level. No-one is going to do ANYTHING there. In the UK a member of the Royal Family has lost his status. This is Terf Island. Women matter. It took along time, but it happened.

Yes we are call out the sexist hypocrisy in The Greens. Newsflash though we are not tolerating it in ANY PARTY.

You can be any skin colour, any political belief, any religion, any amount of money and Mumsnet will be coming after you. If it screws up your political programme oh dear. How sad. Do better.

excellent post @fromorbit

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 11:11

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 10:34

Well, funnily, several posters have attempted to open discussions, but the OP seems to be rather too invested in denigrating the women pointing out that the opening post was a fail then to discuss.

But good to note again the DARVO tactics of calling a thread an echo chamber while posts encouraging discussion are ignored, and the OP spends considerable effort denigrating the other posters to get them to STFU and make them feel shamed for pointing out the OP's deficiencies.

Accusations such as "the toxic environment of your echo-chamber" seems like more projection from the one who posted it to me.

clear indication of growing up on Reddit.

or the Green Party forum. Not much difference tbh

SincerelyDoubtIt · 02/03/2026 12:03

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 11:11

clear indication of growing up on Reddit.

or the Green Party forum. Not much difference tbh

I'm not sure that much growing up was involved...

MoistVonL · 02/03/2026 12:16

SincerelyDoubtIt · 02/03/2026 09:40

THE GREEN MENACE means your nan will ring you worried about Zack Polanski, who she's fairly certain was in that film with the computers, and why does he have a megaphone, and should she stop buying broccoli just to be safe.

My nan burned her bra in the seventies. I can tell you exactly what she'd say to you if she read this sexist and ageist crap.

My gran would have been 121 today. Happy birthday to her.

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 12:18

WiseHare · 02/03/2026 09:29

I honestly have no idea why you're all so riled. I'm a genuine poster.

I actually think that this post with the sock on broadcast gif really did sum up this thread very well.

A 'genuine poster' while posting a gif of a sock on broadcast without engagement which has been what the OP has been doing all along.

At least it is now in politics and the OP might get discussion that is not feminist centred which also seemed to be the intention, despite plonking the post in feminism... just because....

MrsStarskie · 02/03/2026 12:19

MyThreeWords · 02/03/2026 09:10

Quickly getting the measure of this OP.

Is that well to prove that the earth is round or the experiment to prove that the sun is the centre and we go round it.
😎

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/03/2026 12:25

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 12:18

I actually think that this post with the sock on broadcast gif really did sum up this thread very well.

A 'genuine poster' while posting a gif of a sock on broadcast without engagement which has been what the OP has been doing all along.

At least it is now in politics and the OP might get discussion that is not feminist centred which also seemed to be the intention, despite plonking the post in feminism... just because....

Edited

Oh dear. Wonder how the OP will get on with all the knowledgable posters on this board if he can't sneer about echo chambers, ideology and demand answers with "verifiable evidence" 😅
Maybe he won't be back?

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 12:27

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/03/2026 12:25

Oh dear. Wonder how the OP will get on with all the knowledgable posters on this board if he can't sneer about echo chambers, ideology and demand answers with "verifiable evidence" 😅
Maybe he won't be back?

Maybe the poster is coping with the fact that the women on Mumsnet are not their mum and don't feel the need to centre them and applaud their cleverness.

SerendipityJane · 02/03/2026 14:09

clear indication of growing up on Reddit.

I may borrow and use that as the modern day raised by wolves.

DrBlackbird · 02/03/2026 14:12

So now this has been moved to Politics, I’ll take another stab at discussion.

I did not fully understand the original post@WiseHare other than the Greens have been are debating whether one particular nationalism should be treated as any other nationalism. Have you got a link to the proposal so we can have a look at it?

Without any further details, it’s hard to discuss. How is nationalism being defined in this context? What sort of examples of nationalism are being given to illustrate the subject? Is ‘British’ nationalism being elaborated in the motion?

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 02/03/2026 15:53

@WarriorN thank you for that. Not easy reading. It's such a simplistic claim, and how terrible for Jewish Greens to be put in this position.
Well articulated by them, we shall see if the Green Party are able to respond.

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 02/03/2026 16:31

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 15:19

@DrBlackbird this is the proposal, as explained by the Jewish Greens:

Horrific.

https://jewishgreens.greenparty.org.uk/2026/02/12/why-jewish-greens-are-urging-party-members-to-vote-against-a105/

  • On a more practical level – most Jewish institutions in the UK have some sort of connection to Zionism. Some closer, some less so. The motion proposers – in a response to a question from Jewish Greens – have made it clear that they will expect the motion to proscribe Zionists. This gives the party the option to expel almost any Jew involved in organised communal life or who has ever been, including our party leader. Meaning that most Jews in the party – whether they define themselves as Zionists or not – are one grudge away from being dragged through the disciplinary process on spurious charges of ‘Zionism’.

Is this the means by which the Islamic part of the Green Party take charge? It would make sense of why people with quite strong pro Islamic views like the deputy leader could hold their noses and vote for Greens knowing that that they will be in charge of their policies soon?

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 16:38

They’ve certainly chased a number of women and men who stand up for women out of the party. I wouldn’t put it past them to do the same here.

Zack’s symbiotic ideology could certainly be seen as something completely different.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 02/03/2026 16:39

JustSomeWaferThinHam · 02/03/2026 16:31

  • On a more practical level – most Jewish institutions in the UK have some sort of connection to Zionism. Some closer, some less so. The motion proposers – in a response to a question from Jewish Greens – have made it clear that they will expect the motion to proscribe Zionists. This gives the party the option to expel almost any Jew involved in organised communal life or who has ever been, including our party leader. Meaning that most Jews in the party – whether they define themselves as Zionists or not – are one grudge away from being dragged through the disciplinary process on spurious charges of ‘Zionism’.

Is this the means by which the Islamic part of the Green Party take charge? It would make sense of why people with quite strong pro Islamic views like the deputy leader could hold their noses and vote for Greens knowing that that they will be in charge of their policies soon?

It's very concerning.

SionnachRuadh · 02/03/2026 16:50

And it's not just a problem for Jews who are involved in organised communal life - which might be less than half of British Jews at this point - but most British Jews, including non-religious cultural Jews who are probably much more likely to join the Green Party, literally have family in Israel.

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 16:58

SionnachRuadh · 02/03/2026 16:50

And it's not just a problem for Jews who are involved in organised communal life - which might be less than half of British Jews at this point - but most British Jews, including non-religious cultural Jews who are probably much more likely to join the Green Party, literally have family in Israel.

This is a party who seems to have very few qualms about expelling people who might not fit the tight purity spiral that any current leadership team decide is their theme. I have to wonder where the party will end up in 5 years.

SionnachRuadh · 02/03/2026 17:10

Helleofabore · 02/03/2026 16:58

This is a party who seems to have very few qualms about expelling people who might not fit the tight purity spiral that any current leadership team decide is their theme. I have to wonder where the party will end up in 5 years.

There are precedents on the far left. It used to be said about the Alliance for Workers Liberty that, any time they went over 100 members, Sean Matgamna would invent a controversy and expel some people, because if it got any bigger he couldn't control it.

I don't think the Greens are capable of that kind of control freakery, but they've attracted some very odd people from Corbynworld.

I kind of feel the Greens had a good 10 to 15 years of being run by nice Quaker ladies who cared about the environment, and now they're reverting to the old David Icke style.

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 02/03/2026 17:25

It's a real shame about the Green Party, because now more than ever they should be able to get votes because of increasing concerns about the environment. Instead they've become a party of intolerance and division - some of the election activities in Manchester recently were at best, dubious, at worst, playing into sectarianism.
Regrettable.

WarriorN · 02/03/2026 18:22

Unfortunately I suspect that they’re hoovering up a lot of the fresh in and out of university lot who’ve been fully indoctrinated in the new right think.

As per our eager OP

MonstrousRegimentRocks · 02/03/2026 18:44

I think you're right, @WarriorN . No sense of context or nuance, certainly no idea about sexism, ageism, politics or history.

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