Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 2

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger again.

We need a new thread to discuss all his antics and the ongoing situation in the Green party which is getting more ever more bizarre. While it is getting ever strident in denying biology it also has Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it.

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration,(https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing.

In Bristol the Women of Wessex are causing panic amongst the ruling Green council just by turning up and asking questions. This may result in another court case.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued

With local elections in May and elections in Wales incoming lots more to discuss and call out.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of Hypno Boobs:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

No-one can look it up now, because she deleted her tweets.

I wonder whether anyone has screenshots.

Even on Reddit they're saying she's basically got all the characteristics of a Reddit leftist
Fury as Green Party spin doctor denies women were raped in October 7 attacks : r/ukpolitics

I would say she's an interesting and maybe even adventurous choice to do comms for a party that wants to be taken seriously, but maybe, like Corbyn appointing Seumas Milne, this is Zack telling us exactly what he wants the Greens to be.

a 'brave' choice even as per Sir Humphrey?

A positively courageous choice .

Membership now crosses 200k

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/01/green-party-membership-surge-byelection-victory-zack-polanski

This substack has copies of the tweets and it looks like it broke the story which the Mail used and has lots more details on Wilkson's past. Wilkson joined the Greens last May it seems.

https://theantisemitismfiles.substack.com/p/the-antisemitic-oct-7-rape-denialism?

And she joined them from Sultana's office, it seems. She may have been willing to condemn antisemitism in 2017, but that seems to not have been as important as her career path in politics.

Accept a lot of recruits from Corbynworld, and promote them to positions of responsibility, and you're importing Corbynworld's bad incentives.

Some of them have been archived.

"There is no Israeli woman who's said she was raped by militants on 7/10. There are zero such testimonies. There is one woman who was taken hostage and says she was sexually assaulted by a Hamas guard, and I believe her."
https://archive.ph/XZq2m

There are a bunch more on https://archive.today

Copy and paste this in the Search Box, including the asterisk at the end of the URL:
https://x.com/AbiWilks*

Thread of Abi's other awful tweets:
https://nitter.net/adavies4/status/2028142734976991343

Only matter of time before new greenie little Owen actually does write this

https://nitter.net/grauniadmeme/status/2028043116289069064#m

I totally get why you'd object to Trump's actions and demonstrate against them , I totally get why you'd object to Netanyahou's actions in Gaza and demonstrate against them.
What I cannot get is why you wouldn't object to the Mullahs executing untold numbers of their own citizens and not demonstrate against them.

Owen Jones and his new Green party are the absolute epitome of group think politics, in which tribal identity and group belonging represent the most important value.

First of all you have to establish who, or what, is your enemy, and then you propose exactly the opposite of what they say or do. It can certainly land you in some uncomfortable positions, such as the one Jones is contorting himself into above whereby the enemy of your enemy becomes your friend. Crazy times!

Because automatic political positions on Iran don't really feature in the Left wing manual of correct thought. Those tend to be reserved for America, Israel, and the wicked West by extension. So confronted with an event or situation in a country for which one has no ideological instruction manual ready to hand, one breaks the paralysis by identifying what part 'the West' or America is playing in that situation, and then you oppose it.

You can see this in the States right now, where you can be on the right side of history by just opposing everything Bad Orange Man does, without having to think about what he's doing.

The media, who are trying to do the Democrats a favour, are saying the Democrats are divided on the Iran strikes. But really the strikes are only being supported by Fetterman and some other guy. Josh Shapiro has tried to strike a balance by throat-clearing about Trump and then bringing up some criticisms of the Iranian regime.

But, listening to Harris or Newsom or Buttigieg or AOC... man, the Democrats haven't been this upset about a terrorist being killed since John Wilkes Booth.

Think you have pasted the wrong link. That one is all wind turbines in Wales.

Thanks. Corrected

Thread of Abi's other awful tweets:

https://nitter.net/habibi_uk/status/2028233021476712807

Greens overtake labour in the polls. Now lead in every age group under 50

https://news.sky.com/video/exclusive-greens-second-most-popular-party-new-sky-poll-reveals-13514377

@Lalgarh it'll be like Brexit. People will see the headlines (£350m a week for the NHS, or in this case "tax the rich"), imagine other things (Britain will be great again, or in this case "solve the climate problem"), vote Green and a couple of years down the line they will wonder what the hell they did.

I remember that Private Eye feature on him that detailed his gripes with the lib Dems and how he switched to the greens in a strop BC they wouldn't allocate him for a parliamentary seat.

I'm maybe old enough, but now when I see a popular hopeful naice political progressive leader who stands for naice politics, I think "Nick Clegg".

Were entering the " I agree with Zack" stage

Darren Johnson, ex-Green, former Principal Speaker for the party and one-time leader of the GPEW group in the London Assembly, has joined Lab.

I'll never agree with Zack on anything.
We've really entered Alice Through The Looking Glass unreality if a person who was actor, hypnotherapist, LD activist, goes on to be the person who holds the balance of power in this country.

Darren is a good egg who was a party member for almost 40 years. He might be the only person joining Labour now, but it says a lot if he finds the Greens uninhabitable.

Oh my god. We’re doomed. The chaos. Can you just imagine the chaos as the power went to the head of every Green Party politburo? Or is this more a message to labour. In any event, how could the pro-Gaza vs pro-trans/drugs contingents reconcile their opposing views?

Edited to add: the brief clip was unsatisfactory in no mention of the actual poll. Disappointedly sensationalist reporting from Sky like some bloody TikTok clip.

This is genuinely terrifying.

The Liberal Commentariat since WW2 have been so scared of the re-emergence of a Populist Far Right bringing back Facism and McCarthyism that they are sleep walking into a Populist Far Left who will use exactly the same authoritarian techniques in support of their own ideological power grab.

What's that saying about Generals always trying to refight the last war instead of seeing the new one coming?

As someone who follows polling methodology, I'm looking a bit sceptically at YouGov right now. All the other pollsters (bar Lord Ashcroft, who might be trying to magic up a Kemi surge) pretty consistently show Reform at 28-30, which fits with real votes in weekly local by-elections, but YouGov consistently have them 4-5 points lower. But the trend might say something apart from the headline figures.

A Green polling surge is quite plausible now they've shown they can win and they're getting lots of (mostly positive) coverage. Plus, most people still think they're an environmentalist party. And also Labour's dominance of the left, like the Tories' domination of the right previously, is subject to a Tinkerbell effect where the old parties staying dominant relies on voters believing they're still dominant - it could evaporate quite quickly.

So things I'm looking out for:

• Can the Greens take a lead over Labour that's statistically significant i.e. outside the margin of error?
• Can they sustain a statistically significant lead after the by-election buzz? The local and devolved elections might give them another bump.
• Where are they winning? We've seen that they can knock off Labour strongholds in the right circumstances, locally and now at parliamentary level, but can they scale that up?
• It took quite a while - 7 to 9 months - of Reform having a big poll lead over the Tories before they started to see major defections. There are Labour MPs who will be thinking about defecting to the Greens, but that will be a big jump and may not happen any time soon.

I think it’s absolutely giving the finger to Labour.