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Gorton and Denton, what have you done?

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

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EasternStandard · 01/03/2026 12:08

NoWordForFluffy · 01/03/2026 12:05

No it's not. It's saying that people of a similar political persuasion will be along to all say the opposite of that poster. That isn't troll hunting. It's not like the 'bot' accusation, which certainly is.

Yep to this.

PandoraSocks · 01/03/2026 12:11

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FRO? As in to and?

I have never reported you TheKuiperBelt.

DuncinToffee · 01/03/2026 12:19

PandoraSocks · 01/03/2026 12:11

FRO? As in to and?

I have never reported you TheKuiperBelt.

fuck right off, I think.

Kuiper is showing their real colours

Used SOP before, not sure what that is short for

BIWI · 01/03/2026 12:28

Standard Operating Procedure, I believe.

PandoraSocks · 01/03/2026 12:40

Kuiper telling me to FRO is SOP 😂

placemats · 01/03/2026 12:57

PandoraSocks · 01/03/2026 12:40

Kuiper telling me to FRO is SOP 😂

They obviously make things up in a florid fashion that's reminiscent of penny dreadfuls.

Olderbutwiserpossibly · 01/03/2026 12:58

charliehungerford · 01/03/2026 11:57

What do you find shocking? It’s a fact that many European countries have some dark periods in their history. ‘Great Britain’
wasn’t the only coloniser. Look at the historical colonial past of the French , Portuguese and Belgians.

I always find it shocking when people justify bad behaviour by saying " well other people are doing it so why shouldn't I?

Doing the right thing is a matter of principles and shouldnt depend on what others are doing or have done.

Labelledelune · 01/03/2026 13:50

easysundaytea · 28/02/2026 09:30

Go Greens!

Yes I presume all the drug addicts will be celebrating.

Labelledelune · 01/03/2026 13:53

Betterbelieveit · 28/02/2026 09:45

Who named Britain "Great"? And was it really great? Going around the world slaughtering people and stealing their land is not great by any standards.

Name a country that didn’t do that, our poets, engineers, painters, composers all great. We brought infrastructure to many countries and we stopped the slave trade.

Labelledelune · 01/03/2026 14:02

hyggetyggedotorg · 28/02/2026 10:50

I think this sums up where a lot of us currently are politically.

Labour aren’t likely to get another term (and probably rightly so), the Conservatives were dreadful in their last terms in office.

I’m not sure I can wholeheartedly support any political party at the moment. But if I had to pick, it would have to be the Green Party.

I’d like to vote Liberal Democrat but they’ve become so quiet locally you’d be forgiven for thinking they were extinct.

So you are an advocate of legalising A class drugs?

Ifeellikechickentonightchickentonight · 01/03/2026 14:08

I support the greens. The two big crises of our age are wealth inequality and climate change and they are the only party that is prepared to tackle both. The fact is that we if we don't tackle these issues then everyone is fucked. That includes men and women, working and middle class, trans, Muslim and reform voters.

Political parties are like buses, not taxis. None of them will take you right to your door. You have to choose the one that gets you closest. I don't love absolutely everything about the greens but they are the party that gets me the nearest to my home.

cricketnut77 · 01/03/2026 14:13

Ifeellikechickentonightchickentonight · 01/03/2026 14:08

I support the greens. The two big crises of our age are wealth inequality and climate change and they are the only party that is prepared to tackle both. The fact is that we if we don't tackle these issues then everyone is fucked. That includes men and women, working and middle class, trans, Muslim and reform voters.

Political parties are like buses, not taxis. None of them will take you right to your door. You have to choose the one that gets you closest. I don't love absolutely everything about the greens but they are the party that gets me the nearest to my home.

The green party will solve wealth inequality by making everyone desperately poor.

PandoraSocks · 01/03/2026 14:47

Labelledelune · 01/03/2026 13:50

Yes I presume all the drug addicts will be celebrating.

You clearly a) don't understand addiction b) are rather confused about Hannah Spencer's powers as a newly elected MP.

Ifeellikechickentonightchickentonight · 01/03/2026 14:49

cricketnut77 · 01/03/2026 14:13

The green party will solve wealth inequality by making everyone desperately poor.

Ah that lazy old chestnut. Where's your evidence? Comparing countries the relationship between inequality and wealth is negative. There are loads of countries which are both more equal than us and with higher disposable income for the average person.

(And p.s. yes I have heard of the laffer curve, and no there's no evidence that we're on the right side of it...)

cornflakecrunchie · 01/03/2026 15:05

Greens in my area blocked some roads off & put planters there.. ?

AStonedRose · 01/03/2026 15:07

cricketnut77 · 01/03/2026 14:13

The green party will solve wealth inequality by making everyone desperately poor.

Don’t be silly. Almost all of the rest of Western and northern Europe has a higher tax take as a percentage of income than the UK.

most of these places are now, I’m afraid, happier and wealthier than us, and with better public services

that said, the far right has never been very concerned with facts

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:12

anythreewords · 01/03/2026 02:46

The Muslim community voted en masse for a white, Christian woman whose party leader is gay and of Jewish heritage. An outstanding demonstration of shared British values.

If you think that Andy Burnham would have won had he been allowed to run (and I do) then they weren't voting for Green policies. It was a convenient place to put their vote to send a message while knowing that Greens won't be implementing national policy.

placemats · 01/03/2026 15:14

cornflakecrunchie · 01/03/2026 15:05

Greens in my area blocked some roads off & put planters there.. ?

Greens are notorious for digging up the roads and pavements to make them impassible.

AND, they make the leaves fall from the trees every Autumn.

Well known facts.

GeneralPeter · 01/03/2026 15:15

Ifeellikechickentonightchickentonight · 01/03/2026 14:08

I support the greens. The two big crises of our age are wealth inequality and climate change and they are the only party that is prepared to tackle both. The fact is that we if we don't tackle these issues then everyone is fucked. That includes men and women, working and middle class, trans, Muslim and reform voters.

Political parties are like buses, not taxis. None of them will take you right to your door. You have to choose the one that gets you closest. I don't love absolutely everything about the greens but they are the party that gets me the nearest to my home.

The UK Greens' policies actively damage our response to climate change.

First, they oppose nuclear power, the lowest carbon-density energy source we have (on some measures tied with wind), and by far the lowest density source that can supply base load. Proven in practice, countries with the highest nuclear mix (e.g. France) are the least energy-intense rich countries, while Germany, which just gave up nuclear, is seeing its carbon emissions rising rapidly.

Second, they are sceptical of carbon trading and offshoring of carbon-reduction actions. Given the same money, the Greens would rather spend it on a UK project that removes a small amount of carbon than one a developing country that removes a lot. Ideology above impact.

So maybe I disagree with their methods, but at least they're focused on the issue, right?

Not that either. At their last party conference, about 9 of 61 motions were climate-related, or about 9 of 40 excluding procedural items. That's not a party serious about tackling an urgent civilisational emergency.

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:21

cardibach · 01/03/2026 11:31

Can you explain what shit she got done when she was actually in government? Because I’ve no idea how you’ve come to this conclusion.

lots as Secretary of State for Business and Trade and on the Women's Equalities committee? I mean - do you think that it is just the PM who does stuff? Or that the only things going on are things mentioned in the media headlines? As leader of the opposition she gets the background work and research done BEFORE spouting off nonsense. I can only assume you don't actually delve very much into what is happening in the country, as someone actually interested would have used a bit of ole google or chat-gpt.

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:26

Ifeellikechickentonightchickentonight · 01/03/2026 14:49

Ah that lazy old chestnut. Where's your evidence? Comparing countries the relationship between inequality and wealth is negative. There are loads of countries which are both more equal than us and with higher disposable income for the average person.

(And p.s. yes I have heard of the laffer curve, and no there's no evidence that we're on the right side of it...)

what countries would you like to emulate?

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:27

AStonedRose · 01/03/2026 15:07

Don’t be silly. Almost all of the rest of Western and northern Europe has a higher tax take as a percentage of income than the UK.

most of these places are now, I’m afraid, happier and wealthier than us, and with better public services

that said, the far right has never been very concerned with facts

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please can you provide an example?

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:32

247SylviaPlath · 01/03/2026 10:18

You forgot to mention legalising all drugs:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20e20rzje2o

Including heroin, crack etc etc etc

I love how selective people are when they talk about all the great policies the Green Party have.

Only part way down this thread so far but no one has yet mentioned their spin doctor Abi Wilkinson and her tweet that denies Hamas raped Israeli women in the October 7 attacks…despite the UN concluding there was evidence (and testimony from returning hostages has since shown awful themes of sexual violence).

The far left and the far right are as bad as each other. They both rely on divisiveness.

hello Chat-GPT

anythreewords · 01/03/2026 15:33

DuncinToffee · 01/03/2026 11:23

68% of voters in Gorton and Denton voted Green, Labour or Lib Dem.

This statement of fact demonstrates the appeal of Reform to the majority of voters in the constituency. More than two-thirds of the electorate rejected Reform. Yet the minority Reform-minded voters are accusing the majority of Progressive/Centre voters of divisive politics. Despite being outnumbered two to one at the ballot box. Hilarious.

DuncinToffee · 01/03/2026 15:36

pineapplecrushed · 01/03/2026 15:21

lots as Secretary of State for Business and Trade and on the Women's Equalities committee? I mean - do you think that it is just the PM who does stuff? Or that the only things going on are things mentioned in the media headlines? As leader of the opposition she gets the background work and research done BEFORE spouting off nonsense. I can only assume you don't actually delve very much into what is happening in the country, as someone actually interested would have used a bit of ole google or chat-gpt.

What did she achieve in that role?

She didn't implement recommendations from the Jay report.

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