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Importance of Gorton and Denton

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Acommonreader · 01/02/2026 10:48

I don’t want to get into the candidates or parties here! Please can someone tell me why huge attention is being given to this by election ?
I know that it’s been Labour for a long time but it seems to be publicised as hugely important to all concerned. Is it just a potential indication of future voting or something else?
I have been looking for information but it’s all about the candidates rather than the wider significance of the results beyond the victor. I’m genuinely just try to understand the wider picture. Thanks

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Papyrophile · 28/02/2026 21:11

Brilliant! Have loved the last few posts!

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 21:15

pointythings · 28/02/2026 19:19

Yup. About as engaging and tasty as the endless scaremongering about how we are just like Greece because of our far left government. I've stopped rolling my eyes at those posters for fear they will fall right out of my head.

Those posts are talking about the Greens getting in aren’t they

pointythings · 28/02/2026 21:21

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 21:15

Those posts are talking about the Greens getting in aren’t they

Not really. Over the past year or so I have seen endless posts telling us that the UK is on the brink of an IMF bailout because of the current government. Hence the eyerolling.

And although I do not want the Greens to have an absolute majority, I would prefer them to Reform any day of the week if those are the only available options.

patooties · 01/03/2026 01:01

BurntBroccoli · 28/02/2026 11:37

On the contrary - the Green Party policies would improve the lives of working people starting with higher pay and much stronger working rights. Minimum wage would be raised to £15 an hour for all ages, zero-hours contracts would end and workers would be given full employment rights including sick pay and holiday pay, from day one.

The Greens also back getting rid of anti-union laws and introducing a four-day working week without loss of pay which would improve work-life balance and reduce stress for many. Productivity actually increases and there is I independent research in this area proving this.

https://theabp.org.uk/what-the-evidence-tells-us-about-the-four-day-working-week/

They also propose increasing Universal Credit and other benefits, scrapping the two-child benefit cap and bedroom tax, and moving toward a Universal Basic Income in the longer term. These measures would provide a stronger safety net, reduce poverty, and give workers more financial security during periods of unemployment, illness or retraining.

For housing and energy costs, the Greens support large-scale investment in social housing and would give councils stronger rent controls to make housing more affordable. It also proposes a nationwide home insulation and solar installation programme to cut energy bills, which would particularly benefit low (and also middle-income households) while also reducing carbon emissions.

They want major public investment into renewable energy, public transport and green infrastructure to create secure, skilled, long term jobs across the country. Plus expanded training and education funding so workers can access new opportunities created by the transition to a low-carbon economy.

To fund these policies, the Greens propose wealth tax reforms and aligning capital gains tax with income tax rates. They also would like to see the development of a Land Value Tax which would be a fairer system than the current Council Tax where someone in Yorkshire is paying more for a 2 bedroomed terrace than a mansion in London.

Their overall goal is to reduce inequality while improving wages, job security, public services and living standards for working people across the UK.

lol - the worst people ‘on the left’ have b moved into a party that was meant to be about the environment and is now very much not.
they are the useful idiots to be used by the media to kick Starmer. Their day will come - and I’ve got the popcorn waiting to see how the manage a coalition between a gay Jewish leader and a man whose wife cannot show their face publicly…

EasternStandard · 01/03/2026 07:38

pointythings · 28/02/2026 21:21

Not really. Over the past year or so I have seen endless posts telling us that the UK is on the brink of an IMF bailout because of the current government. Hence the eyerolling.

And although I do not want the Greens to have an absolute majority, I would prefer them to Reform any day of the week if those are the only available options.

The post below from @1dayatatimere Greece was referring to the Greens.

If they overtake Labour I guess we’ll see how viable.

Velentia · 01/03/2026 10:35

I had not realised that there was such poverty in Gorton & Denton . According to The Sunday Times it is the 15 most deprived constituency in England & Wales. I have never ben there, I did go to Bury once and thought it an extremely poor area. Anyone care to comment.

StudyinBlue · 01/03/2026 15:40

Velentia · 01/03/2026 10:35

I had not realised that there was such poverty in Gorton & Denton . According to The Sunday Times it is the 15 most deprived constituency in England & Wales. I have never ben there, I did go to Bury once and thought it an extremely poor area. Anyone care to comment.

There’s only Radcliffe in Bury that could be described as an ‘extremely poor area’ and I’m not sure about the ‘extremely’ bit. Gordon is extremely deprived and makes Radcliffe look like Kingsbridge in comparison.

anythreewords · 01/03/2026 19:57

Acommonreader · 01/02/2026 10:48

I don’t want to get into the candidates or parties here! Please can someone tell me why huge attention is being given to this by election ?
I know that it’s been Labour for a long time but it seems to be publicised as hugely important to all concerned. Is it just a potential indication of future voting or something else?
I have been looking for information but it’s all about the candidates rather than the wider significance of the results beyond the victor. I’m genuinely just try to understand the wider picture. Thanks

The big picture is the collapse of the old parties, Conservatives and Labour, along with the "centre" of British politics. Voters in both parties, appalled by the dismal efforts to provide a better economic future, have abandoned the mainstream parties, and are seeking change that will improve their lives.

Reform promises to make Britain Great again by stopping immigration, reducing taxes, reducing public services, and hoping that will result in the growth of jobs and opportunities. They propose to cut workers' rights and protections, and make Britain a place where billionaires and multinationals will want to invest in.

Greens promise to make Britain Great again by taxing billionaires and multinational companies, and investing in the economy to create jobs, housing and opportunities for the ordinary people.

The economic arguments for both approaches are debatable. Each has positives and negatives. So it comes down to an emotional, rather than an intellectual decision. What sort of country do you want for you and your children?

A country built for the benefit of the super rich, with ever increasing levels of obscene wealth and obscene poverty dividing the country? Or a country built for the benefit of it's citizens, with ever increasing levels of equality and social justice uniting the country?

So the importance of Gorton and Denton, to answer the original poster, is that it's the first insight into which way the voters of this country might lean. Which has been obscured by smoke about the particulars of whether Labour may or may not have won if, but, blah, blah blah....

The old centre parties that have held British politics in a stranglehold for a century are dying, and a new politics is being born. In front of our eyes. Reform and the Greens may be irrelevant in ten or twenty years; everything is changing so fast. Whether it's the Brave New World, or the last nail in the coffin, is a purely personal political viewpoint.

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